Round two of Karen Read's defense. Josh Mankiewicz on Dee Warner. Plus, a courtroom sketch artist.

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What updates are there on Karen Read's retrial?

Andrea Canning 1:58
Karen, what can we expect from the defense? Will you testify?
Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection) 2:02
TBD. How are you feeling after today? I feel very good. Thank you. Karen Reed is charged with hitting her Boston police officer boyfriend, John O'Keefe, with her car after a night of heavy drinking in January 2022. She has pleaded not guilty. Her legal team has its own theory that Reed was framed by law enforcement officers to protect two of their own, who they say beat up O'Keefe at a house party that night. So far, the defense has brought in new witnesses, revisited controversial testimony, and word around the courtroom is they still have some surprises in store. Here to bring us the latest is Dateline producer Sue Simpson, who is once again back in the courtroom. Literally, she got a seat. Sue, welcome back. Hi, Andrea. Hi, Sue. So now a big question hanging over this trial has been whether the defense would call former Massachusetts State Trooper Michael Proctor to the stand. He was fired in part for his handling of the investigation.
Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection) 2:59
So far, the defense has not called him, but Proctor has, you know, remains a big focus of the case, Sue.
Courtroom Sketch Artist 3:06
He does. Totally right, Andrea. And we saw them get at that with a new witness they called. His name is Jonathan Diamandis, and he's a childhood friend of Michael Proctor's.
Jonathan Diamandis 3:17
We've been friends since middle school, approximately 30 years.
Andrea Canning 3:19
How often have you texted him over the years?
Jonathan Diamandis 3:23
Frequently.
Andrea Canning 3:23
And I want to direct your attention to one particular group chat that had nine people on it. Do you know the one I'm referring to?
Jonathan Diamandis 3:31
I do.
Courtroom Sketch Artist 3:32
Diamandis was on one of those now infamous text chains where Michael Proctor texted vulgarities about Karen Reid. I'm sure you remember them, Andrea. Yes. And the reason the defense called him is so they could get into those text messages without calling Proctor himself.
Andrea Canning 3:48
Having reviewed that text chain, is that a true and accurate document?
Sue Simpson 3:55
Yes.
Courtroom Sketch Artist 3:56
Now, it was interesting. The defense did not have Diamandis read the text messages, but on cross, the prosecutor asked him if he would. And you know what? Diamandis declined, saying he felt uncomfortable with the language. So the prosecutor read them.
Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection) 4:11
Mr. Proctor says she's a whack job and then uses the C word to describe it. Is that accurate? That's accurate. He then says, yeah, she's a babe. Weird Fall River accent, though. No ass. Are those the words that he wrote?

What impact does the media have on high-profile trials?

Kelly Moody 0:02
Good morning.
Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection) 0:02
How you doing? Good. You're listening in to Dateline's morning meeting. He just filed the charges end of day yesterday. Our producers are swapping tips about breaking crime news. That would be an amazing twist. Yeah.
Rachel White 0:16
He was offering him $4,000 for this. He only gives him $70 in the end. I don't know what her story is going to be.
Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection) 0:26
Welcome to Dateline True Crime Weekly. I'm Andrea Canning. It's June 5th and here's what's on our docket. In Michigan farm country, the body of Dee Warner, a beloved grandmother and businesswoman, was found sealed in a metal tank last year. Now her husband is in court for her murder. Josh Mankiewicz has the latest.
Josh Mankiewicz 0:46
The case is proceeding and it's going to go to trial, but there have been a few things that have happened since then.
Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection) 0:52
In Dateline Roundup, a verdict in the trial of the first of three men charged in connection to the murder of a Kentucky mother. And a dramatic scene during jury selection at Lori Vallow Daybell's latest trial. I did not plan on getting sick. I'm incapable of going forward and doing a good job representing myself. Plus, when cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom, sketch artists fill in the blanks. We'll talk to the sketch artist at the trial of Sean Combs about what the cameras are missing. Puffy Combs' mom is sitting behind me, and she tapped me on the shoulder and gave me a thumbs up. But before all that, we're heading to Dedham, Massachusetts, and a new chapter in the retrial of Karen Reed.
Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection) 1:36
Over a month into her retrial, Karen Reid's defense is finally putting on its case. That comes after months of legal back and forth about what witnesses could be called, speculation about the defense's strategy, and a gag order that means only the defendant herself can talk to the media. Here is Karen Reid talking to our affiliate, NBC10 Boston.

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