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Talking Dateline: Secrets of the Sliding Door

23 Jul 2025

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Josh Mankiewicz and Keith Morrison sit down to discuss Keith’s episode “Secrets of the Sliding Door.” When beloved Staten Island teacher Simeonette “Sissy” Mapes-Crupi was found murdered in her home, investigators never imagined an escort by the name of Ms. Pumpkin would help lead them to her killer. Josh and Keith discuss the different theories of the crime and play an extra clip from interviews with Simeonette’s friends and family. Plus, they talk phony-sounding 911 calls, answer a listener question about detecting lies during interviews, and take a deep dive into Keith’s sneaker collection.  If you have a question for Talking Dateline, send us an audio message on social @datelinenbc or leave us a voicemail at 212-413-5252. Listen to the full episode of “Secrets of the Sliding Door” here: https://apple.co/4mcISoqListen to Josh’s episode “The Evil to Come” referenced during the 911 call discussion: https://apple.co/44Hxv1MListen to Keith’s episode “The Mystery in Rock Hill” also referenced during the 911 call discussion: https://apple.co/4o3G8va

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