Talking Dateline: Secrets Unmasked
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What is the story behind Regina Hicks' mysterious death?
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Hey, everyone. This is Andrea Canning, and we are talking Dateline. And today we are joined by the legendary Keith Morrison and his legendary producer, Tim Eulinger. They are here to discuss their Dateline episode, Secrets Unmasked. This episode is about the murder of Regina Hicks, a 25-year-old Ohio woman who disappeared on the way to pick up her son from her estranged husband, Paul. Days later, Regina's car was found submerged in a pond with her body in the passenger seat. What followed was an investigation spanning two decades, a bizarre arson scheme, and a reluctant witness. If you haven't seen the episode yet, you can stream it now on Peacock or listen in the Dateline podcast feed today. Then come right back here.
Later, we will have an extra clip from Steve Gates, the witness who kept his silence for nearly 25 years, reflecting on how he feels about Paul now. And we will answer some of your amazing questions from social media. Okay, let's talk Dateline. Hey, Keith and Tim.
Hi. Hi. How are you, Andrea? Nice to see you.
It's always nice to see you guys since you're out there in California, Southern California, so I don't get to see you very often. Yeah.
Great to see you.
So let's dive right into this episode. The first thing that I thought of as I was watching was, I'm always struck by, you know, just the opening lines, right? And in the body of the episode. And in this one, you know, we're talking about Ohio. What is it? Willard, Ohio. Yeah. And, you know, I was an anchor in Ohio, so I know those little towns. It's not super little, but it's not huge either. And it always strikes me... Most of our datelines happen in these small towns. You know, they don't happen in the big city. In fact, I've done, I think, one dateline in New York City. And I've done a lot of datelines. So, I mean, what's your take on that, that these crazy things happen in small-town America, like in this episode?
Yeah. It's because it is a small town. I mean, there's even a genre called murder in a small town, right? I think a TV show called that. And if you look at all the famous crime novels, most of them occur in small towns. Agatha Christie loved those country mansions, didn't she? And there's a reason because... It's a little place where this sort of crime doesn't normally occur. You expect it to happen in a big, scary city and not in a sweet, bucolic little place where everybody knows everybody else.
Because it does, we're really interested in it. One of the things about the small towns... is that because they are small towns, relationships are tighter. More people, like everybody knows everybody. And emotions and things like that, I have found in stories like this. People are tighter. There's more emotion. That's a big part of it. Yeah, I agree with you.
And Keith, you know where I am from, Blue Mountain in Canada, which is on Georgian Bay. It's part of Lake Huron, the Great Lakes. And so this was, you know, as I'm watching the opening of this episode, I'm thinking to myself, you know, I finally know sort of what it feels like, you know, to have a murder happen in a small town like that and for it to affect you because I am from a very small town. And we did have a murder that was a diabolical murder that we featured on Dateline yesterday.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:47
2
What is the story behind Regina Hicks' mysterious death?
0:47–7:03
3
What unusual evidence prompted a re-investigation of Regina's case?
7:03–7:33
4
Who is Steve Gates and what role did he play in the investigation?
7:33–16:26
5
What were the challenges of covering a cold case after many years?
16:26–20:03
6
How did the small-town dynamics affect the investigation?
20:03–33:30