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The Menendez Brothers: Chance at Freedom
Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:00:00 +0000
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Keith Morrison reports on the latest developments in the high-profile murder case of Lyle and Erik Menendez that continues to captivate the nation.Keith Morrison and Andrea Canning go behind the scenes of the making of this episode in ‘Talking Dateline’:Listen on Apple: https://apple.co/3BAijYlListen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4igVe4C1NWWpFIY1pDdH08
Chapter 1: What happened on the night of the Menendez murders?
Tonight on Dateline. I was just firing. As I went into the room, I just started firing. What was in front of you? My parents.
35 years later, their crime still haunts. Lyle and Eric Menendez, the brothers who killed their parents. I just told them that I didn't want to do this and that it hurt me. Were they abused? Should they go free?
Social media young people have just taken up their banner.
Now, new evidence. There was a letter that Eric Menendez had written. I'm convinced that he was talking about sexual abuse.
There was a connection between Jose Menendez and some Menudo boy band members. Roy Rosello told me that he had been assaulted. Hear from the brothers themselves.
People were afraid of him. There was no way he was going to let this secret get out. But you could have left. But leave and do what?
I believe that they should be released. There's no reason they should get out. They killed their parents. I mean, come on.
The bone-chilling case of the Menendez brothers. After 35 years in prison, can they win their freedom? I'm Lester Holt, and this is Dateline. Here's Keith Morrison with the Menendez brothers, Chance at Freedom.
A sensational story we thought was over may soon have a new ending. After more than three decades behind bars, freedom might be in reach for Lyle and Eric Menendez. We're very sure not only that the brothers have rehabilitated and that they will be safe to be reintegrated in our society, But do they have to pay their dues?
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Chapter 2: What evidence points to possible abuse?
Chapter 3: How did social media influence public opinion?
He was wearing shorts and he had a shotgun blast to his thigh, blood soaked all the way down. And then I noticed his wife, Kitty, at his feet on the floor. She was curled into a fetal position and, like her husband, had been shot many times. Several times near her knee and, most horribly, Kitty was shot point blank in the face.
There was a contact wound on Kitty Menendez's face. It blew out her eye. I mean, it was grotesque what happened to her. Back then, Pamela Bozanich was an L.A. County prosecutor in the Organized Crime Unit. But nothing prepared her for this. Jose and Kitty had been shot 15 times. Shotgun killings are very messy, and there were brains and blood everywhere.
It looked as if Jose and Kitty had been relaxing in the den. An empty bowl of cream and berries and Eric's college paperwork were on the coffee table. The television set was on. There was no sign of a break-in, but... We didn't see any shotgun shells.
What did that say to you? Somebody collected the shotgun shells. But who does a thing like that if they've got a messy crime scene of that sort? somebody that didn't want fingerprints on the shotgun shells, the only thing I could think of. While investigators examined the crime scene, Lyle Menendez, then 21, and Eric, 18, went to the station to speak to police.
The brothers said they were in and out throughout the day, and then as evening approached, they decided that they wanted to go to the movies. They wanted to see a James Bond movie, but it was sold out, so they saw the Batman movie, which they had both seen before.
After the movie, they told detectives they'd planned to meet a friend for a drink at the Cheesecake Factory. But they had to go back to the house to pick up Eric's fake ID. And when they walked in, they said they saw a haze in the air and smelled gunpowder smoke. They went into the den and then dialed 911. The news spread very quickly. Kitty's sister, Joan.
I got a phone call from my brother. And I remember putting the phone down on the table and walking around the house screaming. As detectives worked into the night, they had no idea this was the beginning of a 35-year saga. A case we're still debating. Have the Menendez brothers served their time? Or should they, as the jury decreed, stay in prison for life?
We were up against the myth that boys aren't sexually abused. that CEOs and upstanding people like my father aren't child molesters.
Even with evidence from another alleged victim.
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Chapter 4: What led to the Menendez brothers' arrest?
Chapter 5: What role did Dr. Jerry Ozeal play in the case?
That would leave the family and the rest of America speechless. The media feasted on the story of the rich brothers charged with killing their parents, apparently to get their hands on the family's reported $14 million estate. They were smirking, they were smug. How do you play?
Not guilty. Hard to overstate the public's disgust with those young men. But on the other side of the country, in an upscale New Jersey town just a few miles from Princeton, people began comparing memories. Their home at the time was a Tudor-style home. It was on a lake. Bill Curtin was a young tennis coach when he met Jose Menendez and was certainly impressed.
There were two clear sides of him. One was the very friendly, outgoing, joking person. The flip side was how driven and controlling he was. Jose engaged Bill to teach his son, Lyle, and then watch the lessons. But didn't just watch. He would physically come on to the tennis court and start giving instruction to Lyle while I was still there. That was very, very strange, very uncomfortable.
And Bill learned Jose had hired several coaches for Lyle. That the boy was working hours every day to learn tennis. He was incredibly quiet, especially when Jose was present. Neighborhood memories about a successful but slightly imposing family. Everyone seemed to look up to them, but not draw closer to them.
Alicia Hertz was a neighbor of the Menendez family. She was also Lyle's Spanish teacher at the exclusive Princeton Day School. Was he a good student? He tried to be, but he was not particularly talented at the language. Once she caught Lyle cheating, and she said Eric cheated too. I think teachers understood deep down inside what they were going through.
That they were being pressured strenuously from their parents to do well. Right. And to Alicia, it seemed to be taking a toll on Lyle. Alicia remembers twice seeing Lyle outside her office, staring blankly. I wish to this day that I had gotten out and said, please come in. Please come in. Did you talk to Kitty or Jose about this?
Oh, no. I didn't reveal anything to them, no. Not anything that could get them in trouble. Like many others, said Alicia, she was careful around Kitty and Jose. But there was one episode she found too disturbing to ignore. A dinner party at the Menendez home. Jose told his guests he'd brought back a VHS tape from a trip to Brazil.
And I have to show you guys this because it's so unique. And so he puts it in, and I don't remember the name. What was it about? Children, people doing disgusting things. Two children? In front of children, and... It was just like having no respect for children. And we saw a few seconds of it, a few minutes, and we made excuses. A lot of us stood up and said, we have to leave.
We couldn't stand to see it, to watch. But Jose found this... Hysterically funny. Cousin Diane had her own disturbing memories about Jose. He would take their heads and push them underwater until they started panicking and needed up. He would let them up again. Jose's way of teaching his then quite young boys to swim. What did Kitty seem to think about it?
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Chapter 6: How did the murder trial unfold?
Which I thought was very strange. It was pretty obvious, said the prosecutor. First-degree murder. And they did it for the money. At the end of the prosecution case, I was like, okay, these two brothers are so guilty, it's not even funny. But then, of course, the defense got its turn. Ms. Abramson for the defense.
Thank you. We had a joke. The investigator, myself, and my co-counsel, Lester, the joke was, you have a gun, you have two bullets, you go in the courtroom. Who do you shoot? Okay? So both the guys say they would shoot Lyle and Eric. My thing was, I'm going to shoot Leslie twice. I felt that the brothers were evil, but not as bad as she was. Abramson had a reputation for doing whatever it took.
You guys haven't been fair to these boys and you're not fair to them now. She told the juries the brothers had shot their parents all right, but it wasn't murder. It was something the law called imperfect self-defense. That is to say, under all the circumstances, it was reasonable to the person to think that they were acting in self-defense, but the reality is that that wasn't the case at all.
In other words, an honest but unreasonable belief that one's life is in danger. The defense argued that the brothers weren't spoiled, they were damaged, subject to years of abuse that made the decision to kill their parents seem, to them, like an act of self-defense against imminent danger. If the juries agreed, the Menendez brothers would get manslaughter instead of murder.
Our witnesses will paint a portrait of Jose and Mary Louise Menendez as parents that will make understandable to you how they could have died at the hands of their children. what they did to their children to bring this about.
The parents were as much on trial as Lyle and Eric Menendez were on trial. And while the prosecution tried to stick to a just-the-facts-ma'am narrative, the defense strategy was emotion, emotion, emotion, emotion.
The defense called teachers and coaches and family members to testify about emotional and physical abuse. Cousin Diane also took the stand. And here came the most explosive issue of the trial. Diane testified that when Lyle was eight years old, he told her a secret about Jose.
He and his dad had been touching each other, and he indicated that it was in his genital area.
He asked me if... My dad ever gave me massages. Another cousin, Andy Cano, said a young Eric wanted to know if what was happening to him was normal. What did he say about where the massages were? Well, he told me his father was massaging his a**. He used that word? Yes, he did. Prosecutor Bozanich was, to say the least, skeptical.
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