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Something About Cari - Ep. 4: A Shot in the Dark

04 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What led to Liz Golyer's call to 911?

3.355 - 35.535 Keith Morrison

December 5th, 2015, more than three years after Carrie Farber disappeared. It was the day after Liz Golyer visited police to turn the case on its head by telling the police that the stalker terrorizing her and Dave Krupa was not Carrie Farber at all, but Dave's ex-girlfriend and the mother of his children. Amy. As Liz said later, she needed some time alone to think.

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35.555 - 66.361 Keith Morrison

So, late afternoon, she got in her car and drove to the park by the river. Big Lake Park, it's called. And then she got out and took a walk along the trail there and sat down on a bench. It was quiet. Liz was alone in the gathering cold and dark of a December evening. And that was when the silence was snapped by the deafening bark of a gun and the pain tearing through her thigh.

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Chapter 2: Who did Liz identify as her shooter and why?

67.763 - 79.043 Keith Morrison

I'm Keith Morrison, and this is Something About Carrie, a podcast from Dateline. Episode 4, A Shot in the Dark.

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82.938 - 96.262 Matthew Coleman

It was just after 6.30 p.m.

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96.662 - 121.587 Keith Morrison

when the Council Bluffs PD roared out to Big Lake Park and found a wounded and bleeding Liz Gallier and packed her off to the hospital. While a chopper trained down a searchlight and cops on the ground scoured the paths and bushes for the shooter, a detective checked on Liz at the hospital. His name is Matthew Coleman. You could tell that she was in pain from the obvious wound to her leg.

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122.868 - 133.279 Keith Morrison

But Liz was lucky. When the bullet went clean through her leg, it missed bones and arteries. An inch or two one way or the other, she could have bled to death in minutes.

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Chapter 3: What were the police's initial actions after the shooting?

133.934 - 140.382 Keith Morrison

She told the detective what happened. She says she came out here to clear her mind, and she walked out to a bench and sat down.

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140.402 - 148.772 Liz Golyer

And then a female stuck a gun to her back, told her to get on the ground, and then shot her in the leg, and then ran off.

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150.174 - 172.707 Keith Morrison

Who was this shooter? The woman who had tried, it seemed, to take Liz's life, but ended up only wounding her. Well, Liz said she knew. She knew all right. Was it Carrie Farver? No, said Liz, it was not, not Carrie at all. It was, she said, the same woman who'd recently been stalking her.

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Chapter 4: What evidence did detectives find at Amy Flora's apartment?

173.408 - 184.084 Keith Morrison

The mother of Dave Krupa's children. His former partner, Amy Flora. A little later, a city police task force surrounded Amy's apartment.

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184.765 - 193.284 Amy Flora

And I kind of seen somebody leaning against my building. And I said, who's there? And All I heard was, open up, police.

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194.826 - 195.767 Keith Morrison

What was that like?

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196.628 - 199.212 Amy Flora

Traumatizing. I was freaked out.

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Chapter 5: How did Liz's story change the investigation's direction?

199.312 - 213.589 Amy Flora

I didn't know why the police were at my door and told me to open my door. I had no idea what was going on. So I opened the door, and they had two officers with guns drawn. And pointing at you. Yes. Yeah.

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213.609 - 215.191 Keith Morrison

What did they say to you?

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215.312 - 222.404 Amy Flora

They had said that I was accused of shooting Liz. I thought that I was... going to go to jail.

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Chapter 6: What digital evidence pointed to Liz's involvement in the harassment?

223.566 - 238.024 Amy Flora

I would lose my kids. I wasn't really sure what would happen. But I mean, I guess if you're accused of shooting somebody, I mean, first thought in your mind is you're going to jail. You know, I've never been in trouble my whole life. So I really, I mean, that was my first thought.

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238.345 - 239.967 Keith Morrison

And somebody would come and take your kids away.

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240.848 - 246.375 Amy Flora

Yeah. I didn't know what would happen to my kids if I had to go to jail, you know.

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247.553 - 250.876 Keith Morrison

The police came right into Amy's house. They searched it.

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Chapter 7: What was the significance of the fingerprint found in Carrie's car?

251.577 - 257.723 Keith Morrison

And later they sat Amy down in an interview room and hooked her up to a polygraph. They strapped you into a machine?

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258.684 - 259.704 Keith Morrison

What did it feel like in there?

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260.345 - 262.027 Amy Flora

Horrible.

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262.047 - 268.012 Keith Morrison

Officers asked her questions like this one, among others. Did you go to Big Lakes Park that day?

268.293 - 268.973 Amy Flora

Um, no.

270.114 - 276.16 Keith Morrison

Amy denied that she shot Liz over and over and over again. But...

Chapter 8: What shocking conclusion did detectives reach about Liz Golyer?

276.612 - 278.094 Keith Morrison

You failed the lie detector test.

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278.114 - 297.084 Amy Flora

Yeah, they told me that I didn't pass it. All I could do was cry, like, because I know I didn't do this. I didn't shoot her, and I knew that, but this test was saying I did. And all I can remember is the detective just kept yelling at me, telling me, there's something you need to tell us, and I didn't know anything.

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298.125 - 330.075 Keith Morrison

Still, something didn't add up. For example, when investigators arrived at Amy's place right after the shooting, one of them felt the hood of her car. It was ice cold, hadn't been driven for a while. And during the canvas for witnesses, a neighbor insisted that Amy was home all afternoon. So was Amy so nervous she blew the polygraph? Or was something else going on?

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331 - 360.045 Keith Morrison

Amy's ex, Dave Krupa, when he heard Liz had named Amy as the shooter, he could barely believe it. Now, at that point, my thinking gets pretty twisted. Because I know Amy didn't shoot her. Amy's afraid to even pick up a pistol, let alone handle one. So suffice to say, now everything is, what I believed was going on for three and a half, four years, is taking a wild movie-like twist.

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361.156 - 371.848 Keith Morrison

Back at the hospital, Liz was well enough to pick up a phone and call Todd. Remember him, the helpful, hopeful roommate? Liz told Todd about the shooting.

372.369 - 388.227 Todd Butterbaugh

First question is, when I found out where it happened, why are you down at Big Lake after dark? Nobody goes down there in their right mind. It's just not a place to go. It's not safe. To which Liz responded, Why are you questioning me? I'm sitting here shot. I'm hurt.

389.506 - 398.938 Keith Morrison

In fact, Liz would have to stay in the hospital for several days. And the police had confiscated her cell phone. So she had a request for Todd.

399.479 - 418.062 Todd Butterbaugh

She asked if I could go home and get her a tablet. Something that she could use while she was out there when she was bored. So I went to her room to look for one. And lo and behold, I see, barely sticking out from under the bed, this laptop. So I grabbed it because I knew what it looked like. I flipped it over.

419.628 - 432.972 Keith Morrison

And lo and behold, Todd realized what he had in his hands. It was one of the many electronics that he had reported stolen from his house those many months before.

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