From Software Developer to Cybersecurity Expert: Nina Juliadotter on the Importance of Application Security and Continuous Learning

SummaryAfter years of working as a software developer, Nina Juliadotter was reading headlines about data breaches at major companies. She was horrified to think developers like herself might be leaving vulnerabilities that made these breaches possible. This inspired Nina to study for a Masters in Cybersecurity, and has focused on improving application security ever since. Today, Nina is Westpac’s Principal Information Security Consultant. In her conversation with Cole, Nina discusses cybersecurity education and training, the crucial role of software inventory management, the importance of not being afraid to ask “dumb” questions, and more.Secured is brought to you by Galah Cyber.Secured by Galah Cyber with Cole Cornford website Timestamps3:13 - Nina’s path to getting into cybersecurity.3:37 - “I was horrified” - Nina felt responsible for data breaches.4:50 - Cole: Are developers taught about AppSec today?7:00 - Need for higher-up management to appreciate the importance of AppSec.9:00 - Cole: How do we tackle the problem of not having enough respect for AppSec?10:30 - Nina: I don’t think secure development is rocket science.12:10 - Nina: I believe the work is meaningful.13:00 - Nina: It comes down to good and evil.13:30 - Cole: AppSec is working with real, tangible things.15:00 - Cole: What does formal cybersecurity education look like?16:30 - Nina: Considers her work very specialised and narrow-focused.17:00 - Cole: Believes most AppSec professionals are generalists.18:30 - Nina: currently focusing on inventory management.19:00 - Nina: Where do you start with an AppSec program?21:45 - Cole: How does a large organisation tackle inventory management?22:40 - Nina: how inventory management works at Westpack.24:50 - Cole: What’s one personal trait that’s helped in your career?25:00 - Nina: I was never one of the gifted kids.25:45 - Nina: Important to always ask questions.29:30 - Cole: Importance of hard work.30:40 - Rapid fire questions.Mentioned in this episode:Call for FeedbackThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrpSpotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/

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