S1.E1 - The Secret Life of Debt Heads
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What are the common financial struggles people face?
This episode of Deadheads contains colorful language. If you have kids in the room, you might want to turn the volume up. Okay, let the fun begin. Okay, so... Restaurants? Alcohol? Health insurance? Holy shit! Oh my god. This number is giving me a lot of anxiety.
What's the damage?
I made $7,892 and I somehow spent $10,869 in one month in June. So how many months do you think you've done that? I don't know. How many months are in 33 years? This is the conversation that changed my life. It's the first time I revealed a deep, dark secret to my best friend. It was a conversation 10 years in the making, and it started like most things start in my life, on a walk.
Where are we heading? Do you want to go to the library? I would love to go to the library. I have a few books to pick up. Okay.
My friend Rachel and I walk all over Brooklyn.
Usually our destination's a park or a library.
Or a grocery store.
I love a grocery store. We love a grocery store.
This is a path we've walked, I would say, maybe a hundred times before.
Oh, God, is that a rat? Generally, I like to do all the boring stuff together. It's way more fun. Because we talk the whole time while we're together. Yeah, I mean, we talk about literally everything, but there was that one thing that I guess I never told you. It was a big one. I think it was right up here. I remember because it was, like, right by this gate. We were almost home, and we'd been talking for, like, two hours. And then suddenly you're like, um, uh...
What I did and did not want to tell Rachel that day was that I had $14,000 of credit card debt. And that I'd been maintaining that level of debt in secret for years. $14,000 worth of free-floating anxiety. $14,000 worth of sleepless nights. $14,000 worth of denial. Denial that was so entrenched, it kept me from opening my credit card statements or making anything but the minimum auto payments. It was so deep that it was actually more than $14,000. After talking with Rachel that day, I opened all my accounts and realized the debt was more like $18,000. The denial was so bad that I didn't even realize how much debt I had.
It wasn't surprising that Jamie was in debt. That's something I could totally relate to, because I've been there plenty of times. It's just that she and I both have these big fucking mouths. So I was like, how did you keep that secret for so long? It's true. Our instinct to confess is kind of like a compulsion. Jamie's made a career for herself being loud on the internet. She talks about her family. I'll start by saying that I'm an only child and an only grandchild in a very small family. And all the shitty dates she's been on. I'm probably just going to delete my Bumble and all my dating apps and probably just go live somewhere very far away from all men. She's definitely always talked about mental health.
I want to know if anyone else is feeling extremely anxious like me.
Jamie is so candid in her documentation of her life that I admit to occasionally feeling jealous because she'll have shared something deeply personal with me and we've worked it out together. This is the story about how I tried to heal my grandmother's chronic back pain with medical marijuana and ended up putting her in the hospital. And then the very next day, my mom calls and says, hey, did you see what Jamie posted on her Instagram story? And it's the very same personal topic we just discussed. Okay, but I always tell you first. It's true. Of course, bravery does have its limits. And even the most audacious among us keeps secrets from our friends. Debt, and basically everything about money, makes even the most confident-seeming people squirm. Why do you think that was the day that you told me?
You know, you just hit a point where the dread rises up so far that it just completely overwhelms you. That and the fact that I had been laid off a few months prior and there was just no way of keeping myself afloat or pretending to be afloat anymore. Now there was suddenly just no money coming in. There was no way to avoid it any longer.
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