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Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilan Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Harvey Mason Jr. He's the CEO of The Recording Academy, the nonprofit organization that puts on the Grammy Awards, the most prestigious awards in music, and which runs the Music Cares charity, which helps artists in need.
Harvey is a fascinating guy. As a musician and producer, he's worked on projects with Destiny's Child, Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, Girls' Generation, tons more. as well as produced the music in movies like Pitch Perfect and Straight Outta Compton. As CEO of the Academy, Harvey's had a lot of work to do since he started in January 2020.
His predecessor was ousted after just five months in the role in a swirl of scandals, and the Grammys, along with the Emmys and the Oscars at that time, were facing a reckoning with massive race and gender inequality in the awards. On top of all that, the music industry itself came to a crashing halt during the pandemic as live concerts and award shows stopped happening.
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