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Defense in Depth

Do You Have a Functional Policy or Did You Just Write One?

21 Aug 2025

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All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Justin Berman, formerly vp of platform engineering and CISO at Thirty Madison Health. In this episode:  Maps without transportation The untouchable employee problem Attestation theater The lightbulb moment Huge thanks to our sponsor, SecurityPal SecurityPal is the leader in Customer Assurance, helping companies accelerate security assurance without compromising accuracy. Their AI + human expertise approach, dynamic Trust Center, and modern TPRM solution eliminate manual work and streamline vendor security at scale. To learn more, visit securitypal.ai.

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