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Intent Made Real: Why Designers Are Built to Be Founders with James Song

21 Jun 2025

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🎙️ From Designer to Founder: James Song on Leadership, Intent & Building What MattersIn this episode of Design Shift, we sit down with James Song—a renowned design leader who has shaped products and teams at companies like Meta, Uber, Tinder, and Frog—to explore the real journey from designer to founder.Whether you’re a product designer, creative lead, or aspiring entrepreneur, James breaks down what it really means to lead:→ Why leadership starts with curiosity, not titles→ How design becomes a strategic force inside organizations→ Why founding a company is an act of service and systems thinking→ Tools, mindsets, and advice for designers ready to build something of their own🧠 TOPICS COVERED:00:03:08 Toy Story and the Pixar Moment That Sparked a Career00:04:00 Typography, Layout, and the Shift from Animation to Design00:06:16 Defining Design as “Intent Made Real”00:06:24 Shifting from Execution to Vision00:06:58 Leadership Emerges from Curiosity, Not Titles00:14:06 Learning from Frog, Apple, and the Origins of Design Language00:15:27 Influence vs. Authority: The Real Leadership Challenge00:15:48 Advice to Designer-Founders: Learn Tools and Build Systems00:20:16 Coaching Emerging Leaders Through Real Strategic Work00:23:31 Leading Without a Title: Systems Thinking and Ownership00:27:44 From Design Leader to Founder: Making the Leap with Intent00:30:58 Building Your First Company: Product, Team, and Execution00:35:20 Lessons from Hypergrowth at Uber and Scale at Meta00:38:12 Seeing the Full Business Landscape as a Designer00:41:02 Balancing Craft and Strategy as a Founder-Leader00:44:17 Designing Tools, Culture, and Systems with Intent00:46:25 Making Design Decisions that Reflect Your Values00:48:39 Encouragement to Designers: You Already Have What It Takes00:50:22 James’s Final Advice to Aspiring Designer-Founders🔔 Subscribe for more conversations with design leaders, founders, and creative pioneers: @DesignShift👇 Drop a comment if this inspired you—and don’t forget to like + share it with a designer who needs to hear this!🔥 WHO SHOULD LISTEN TO THIS:Designers transitioning into leadershipCreatives thinking about starting their own companyProduct thinkers interested in design-led strategyFounders who care about craft, culture, and intent📩 Want more insight like this? Subscribe to the Design Shift Newsletter: https://www.designshift.me/#DesignLeadership #DesignerFounder #CreativeLeadership #UXDesign #StartupJourney #ProductDesign #Founders #DesignThinking #LeadershipTips #DesignShiftPodcast

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