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Dig It with Jo Whiley and Zoe Ball

101: Solo Holidays, Sore Bones and Freaky Dreams

10 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 1.092 Jo Whiley

Coming up on Dig It.

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Chapter 2: What unusual dreams are mentioned in this episode?

1.293 - 19.879 Jo Whiley

You know that dream when you're bashing on a window and you're trying to shout at someone? Yeah. Usually they can't hear you because it's, you know, it's like some unresolved situation that you go back over and over again. Yesterday I thought, forget about what it was like at school when no one picked you for their team. So I went yesterday to learn how to play pickleball and paddle.

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19.859 - 25.469 Jo Whiley

I've always thought it's quite cruel, Joe, that my name is Ball and I am hopeless at all sports that involve one.

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25.589 - 38.391 Zoe Ball

I let him out at one o'clock. I let him out at three o'clock. I let him out at five o'clock. Nobody else wakes up at all. Part of me just wants to go and hammer on everybody's doors, just going, can you hear the dog? Can you hear the dog? All of that right after this.

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44.868 - 46.833 Jo Whiley

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47.194 - 59.704 Zoe Ball

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59.802 - 71.798 Jo Whiley

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72.238 - 86.058 Zoe Ball

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86.458 - 105.351 Jo Whiley

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105.331 - 121.213 Zoe Ball

Right, let's get this out of the way to start off with, right. So I had to come from my house to where I'm recording the studio now with an umbrella and I got absolutely drenched and I had to bring a hairdryer over to dry my hair. So I'm sat here feeling very soggy and very bedraggled. Where the hell are you? What's going on?

Chapter 3: What activities are available at the retreat in Portugal?

489.895 - 503.473 Jo Whiley

Have they got those there? They've got them here. And I watched one of her friends do it yesterday straight up. Oh, wow. Wow. If you came here, you would probably do all the sports. You'd be straight in there, wouldn't you?

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503.633 - 520.078 Zoe Ball

Yeah, I probably would. But I probably, I don't know, I quite like to relax as well. So I'd probably do some of that. But absolutely, I would do, I would take everything that was on board, anything on offer. I don't like spinning. I don't like cycling for some reason. I just find that quite hard. Probably wouldn't run around the track, like you said, because of school.

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520.419 - 538.126 Zoe Ball

Because it just reminds you, when they say, okay, today we're going to do 800 metres, or even worse, 1500 metres, and your heart literally just drops to the pit of your stomach and you're like... I can't do that. So I wouldn't go anywhere near the track. But it sounds really good for some kind of a reset. If you can get the time.

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538.486 - 543.775 Zoe Ball

I'd find it hard to get a week, I think, because I always feel so guilty and I want to have the whole gang with me.

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544.877 - 550.146 Jo Whiley

But the thing is, if you could bring all the kids. There'd be no vodka bar.

550.186 - 554.952 Zoe Ball

There's no vodka bar. No, that won't be happening there at all. Do you, Cass, do you want to go? No, I don't think they would.

555.953 - 576.434 Jo Whiley

I had a friend who came here and then said that they did four days and then they had to pretend they had to go back to England to interview a very big pop star because they couldn't hack it. But I've actually found it like a really great place to come for me. And I really love coming on my own. I read lots of books. You talk to all kinds of different people from different walks of life.

576.534 - 599.772 Jo Whiley

You make friends, but you get a proper chill and relax. And I think if you're looking to get away if you've been through a bit of a tough time and you want to reset if you've got if you've had some health issues it is a great place to come if you're loving dig it so far hit follow or subscribe that way you'll get brand new episodes every time they drop

602.418 - 620.899 Zoe Ball

I think going away on your own is a really lovely idea and definitely something that I would welcome doing. I think we've mentioned this before, but some people just hate the idea of eating alone or going to the cinema alone or going on holiday alone is like the ultimate. But I think it's good for you. I think if you can just be at peace with yourself and just...

Chapter 4: How does the retreat cater to different personal needs?

801.898 - 810.13 Jo Whiley

Total destruction. By the way, going back to you, to Disco saying that he just wanted to be with you. Isn't that wonderful? How long have you two been together?

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810.631 - 814.757 Zoe Ball

We've been together, God, over 30 years. I can't remember. Yeah, over 30 years.

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814.837 - 817.34 Jo Whiley

Yeah. He still wants to be with you.

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817.38 - 817.881 Zoe Ball

Yes, he does.

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817.901 - 827.635 Jo Whiley

On a Sunday and go to the garden centre. That is the magic of love. I tell you, because there's probably a lot of our diggers right now who are like, oh, I go to the garden centre to get away from my other half.

827.615 - 850.669 Zoe Ball

a family that's a really lovely thing it's so to be that in love after 30 years that is just oh it's gorgeous I think it's weekends when because I work in the evening so I don't get to hang out with people with the family in the evening so when it comes to the weekends it's that's our opportunity to just to be together and do stuff all the time we went to see back rooms the other day have you seen this film no

850.649 - 867.659 Jo Whiley

It's mad. Woody was telling me about it. Woody was obsessed with this. He's like, this is incredible about this guy who had become obsessed with this picture of a back room just during, you know, in an office that wasn't used during COVID or something or other. And then he's really young. Is he 20, 19 or 20?

867.699 - 868.44 Zoe Ball

20, I think.

868.46 - 872.387 Jo Whiley

Yeah, yeah. And he has made this film. Is it horror horror?

Chapter 5: What are the health benefits of taking breaks or vacations?

2155.617 - 2179.535 Jo Whiley

So she will be back on Dig It. Thank you, Nicola. So, Chelsea chopping. Do you do it? Because I haven't in my garden. I've cut the roses back since the wind has battered them in the rain. But I was looking, some of my geraniums have gone crackers. They're like up here. And I was wondering, oh, should I take those back? But I haven't chopped anything else because... I think you can. Yeah?

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2179.695 - 2201.338 Zoe Ball

Yeah. Yeah. It's geranium faeum, which is really dark geranium. It's the first thing to flower in the garden. Tabitha is my gardener who comes every other week, who's a fantastic little garden ninja. She just hacked everything back and for about four days, five days, it just looked hideous. The border was just ravaged.

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2201.358 - 2219.424 Zoe Ball

But it's all becoming to come back now and it's all growing and we'll get another show of flower But yeah, you can just keep on going, I think. So I'm not sure about salvia. I've got some salvia that have all flowered and I know that I should cut them back and hopefully they'll come back again, but I'm not quite sure where to cut them. So I'm going to have to look into that.

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2219.644 - 2224.191 Zoe Ball

Okay, cutting the salvia back. And do you get another show if you cut the salvia back?

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Chapter 6: How do personal experiences affect views on solo holidays?

2224.211 - 2228.598 Zoe Ball

Well, this is what I want to find out. I'm not entirely sure, but I think I'm pretty sure, yes.

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2228.718 - 2234.487 Jo Whiley

And so does it extend the flowering season by chopping?

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2234.467 - 2252.27 Zoe Ball

Yeah, I think you get a second flush, don't you? You get a second. So you have it, it blooms like initially and then you cut it all back and then new ones begin to grow and then you get new flowers. So they won't be, I don't think they're as strong and as showy as the first crop, but then, but they do carry on. So yeah, you just have it consistently going throughout the summer.

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2252.33 - 2258.178 Zoe Ball

Particularly, I think geraniums are amazing. They're so good. And napeta for the edges of borders. Yeah. Brilliant.

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2258.198 - 2286.411 Jo Whiley

I've put napeta in for the first time actually, and it's doing great. Yes, good this year. My gore has gone bonkers. My cephalaria gigantica, my first one. Oh, it's so beautiful. I had a total disaster, which is that I've got a smoke bush. I've got a smoke bush. Hello. In a pot. It's in a giant pot and it got blown over in the wind onto my cephalaria gigantica. Oh, no. No.

2286.391 - 2311.656 Jo Whiley

oh please and it survived um and it's it's sort of i pulled it back out i've shoved it into a corner it's got to go in the ground it's supposed to have gone in the ground is i'm probably gonna have to wait till next year now the um smoke bush but it survived i'm so happy and it's an absolute beauty i sent we have a lovely friend called merrily um who we worked with the radio who's massively into her garden we always send each other pictures of our favorite

2311.636 - 2329.706 Jo Whiley

garden plants and i sent her a picture i was like look my cephalaria gigantica um so there were more flowers coming so uh when i get back i'll have a little peek and but i have to say thank you to the rain gods because boy oh boy did our gardens need the water But is there sunshine coming now?

2329.866 - 2344.955 Zoe Ball

I think there is. Yeah. And I saw the forecast the other day and I think the heat wave is going to return. So I need to get a massive hammock. I don't know if anybody else does this, but I'm like, oh, it's OK. Now the rain's come. I'm not going to get anything for the garden. And as soon as it gets a little bit warm, you're like, oh, God, I need a hammock. I need a bench. I need some cushions.

2344.995 - 2362.762 Zoe Ball

I need a mattress to lie on in the garden. And then they've all sold out and there's nothing left. So, yeah, heatwave is incoming, I think, in a week or so's time. So get your order in now. That's what I'm going to try and do today. Go and order your hammock, love. Yeah, because the last one got smashed to smithereens when we had a party and there were like 14, 17-year-olds lying on it.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges of gardening in rainy weather?

2423.538 - 2445.293 Zoe Ball

The first picture is of an amazing Acer tree, which is my view outside of the windows of the gym. Oh, wow. It's really beautiful. Acer's are gorgeous, aren't they? And then Joe says the second picture is of the Rose Garden. Look at this. I walk through this every day to get into work and it is this beautiful... Rose garden. Are they yellow, peachy kind of roses on the side?

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2445.313 - 2454.925 Jo Whiley

Yeah, you've got lovely pinks going over the top of an arch and then some lovely red roses there, all different colours. Can you imagine the smell as you walk down that rose walkway?

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2455.186 - 2474.851 Zoe Ball

For retirement villagers to be surrounded, I mean, obviously having a gardening club was, I bet it's so busy. I bet so many people find their joy in going to that gardening club. It's so special. Jo also says, I'd like to give a special mention to one of the Gardening Club members, lovely Beryl. She's 93 years young and bakes the most fantastic cakes for our Macmillan Coffee Morning.

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2474.911 - 2487.929 Zoe Ball

So big up Beryl, 93 years young, who makes amazing cakes. Thank you, Jo. That's so nice. It's brought back a lot of memories of that Gardening Club. It's obviously thriving. I bet Beryl makes a great coffee and walnut cake.

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2488.309 - 2509.313 Jo Whiley

Always my favourite at a coffee morning. Coffee and walnut cake. I love it. And that's beautiful. Don't forget, if you'd like to sow and tell, do show us your garden successes, also your garden disasters or things you're particularly proud of. Send us some pictures and we'll share them on the podcast. And we all learn from each other, which is wonderful. My red roses this year have been...

2509.293 - 2526.678 Jo Whiley

been incredible. They've been enormous, like huge, blousy, beautiful. And they smell so good. So yeah, until the wind, it was indeed, like you said, Jo, a good year for the roses. But they're going to come back. I've cut them all back. Yeah, the ones that have gone to, you cut it to the first five leaf.

2526.698 - 2529.782 Zoe Ball

Yeah, when there's a big, strong, healthy looking five leaf

2529.762 - 2547.13 Zoe Ball

you just cut it just above there I always do it as a slant cut I don't know whether that's the right thing to do but I always do and then they'll hopefully come back and if you're going to go out and buy roses I would always go for a repeat flowering rose because then you won't be disappointed when it blooms and then it doesn't do anything more yeah

2547.11 - 2574.055 Jo Whiley

You want it to come back. You'd love all the flora and fauna here, Jo. I'm staying like it's all eco and all the buildings are covered in cork, which is fantastic. But also the planting around. I've actually sent a little picture of some of the amazing planting around. And my room looks over a lake, which has turtles in it. So you go for a swim and the little turtles pop up and say hi to you.

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