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5 Surgeries,1 Lesson: The 100% Injury Rate the League Won’t Say Out Loud - Kavon Frazier | DSH #1595

30 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is one thing I hate about the NFL.

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Chapter 2: What challenges do athletes face during their transition after retirement?

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You start comparing yourself with other people. And I start finding myself doing that a lot. My own teammate, if I see him miss a tackle, the whole fans be mad, everybody be genuinely mad. And I would be like a little bit happy on the inside.

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Chapter 3: How does getting cut for the first time impact an athlete's mindset?

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Just because we in competition. But that's like just a byproduct of like what the business side of it does to me. All right, guys, we got Kayvon here today. Caught him right before the Celebrity Poker Tournament. You ready for tonight, man?

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Chapter 4: What insights can be gained from analyzing the NFL's injury rate?

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Yeah, man, I think so. I think so. My father-in-law, he gave me some advice, so I'm going to stick with his advice for sure. Yeah, tournaments, you got to play different, right? Yeah, bro.

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Chapter 5: How does Kavon Frazier deal with burnout after his NFL career?

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I played the last one and, you know, I try to play normal, like my normal style. But I feel like you got to be a little bit more patient. Yeah. Right in the tournament.

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Chapter 6: What valuable lessons did Kavon learn before joining the NFL?

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Absolutely. So this one I'm going to sit back and chill a little bit more. Let's get it. How's life been since retiring in 22? Been a few years now. You had a lot of time to think about it.

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Chapter 7: How should athletes plan for their financial future after sports?

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Yeah. Where are you at with that journey?

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Chapter 8: What steps did Kavon take to start his own business after football?

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Man, it's been good, bro. It's been good. You know, a lot of guys, you know, even me, like a lot of guys went through or go through that like identity crisis type of phase. And they write as they're phasing out. And I went through it. Mine wasn't as extreme just because I already had something I was working on outside of football.

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But I did have a lot of time to sit down and really try to figure out who I am. And that was like my biggest, honestly, that's what I've really valued the most with being out of football now is really figuring out who I am as a man. Yeah, I know you had a podcast back in the day talking about that purpose, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, the podcast was simply – and we stopped it.

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We paused it just because, you know, our schedule is scheduling conflicts. But it was talking about the challenges that athletes go through as they transition out and bringing awareness to it. I mean, I think that's the biggest thing. Like, guys don't really – while they're in it, they don't realize that, you know, it's going to come to an end. Even though, like, man, football –

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is that one sport to where it's going to be shorter. Like people, their lifespan of an NFL player is shorter than NBA or MLB. Yeah, two years, right? Stuff like that. I mean, yeah. I think I looked it up. It was like 2.3 years. Some guys, bro, I see some guys that only play for a year and then they got to go over to the CFL. I mean, guys don't really play in the league long.

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But I had the privilege to play six years. I was five years before I had my first cut. And when that first cut came, it was almost like, it was shocking, bro. And I talked to a couple other guys that's going through that same, in that same phase now. And it's almost like you don't even know what to do when you get cut first, right? So, yeah, bro.

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I think football is definitely that sport to where guys don't really fully understand that, hey, you got to make the most of it. Right. You know, on and off the field while you're in it.

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absolutely it's so interesting to me because you dedicate your whole life you're probably playing like 20 years and then the average career is two years it's crazy so you're putting 20 years just to work for two years that's crazy right yeah yeah bro it's 20 years i mean really most people play for about 20 years and then two years is the yeah it's it's a crazy perspective um

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But, you know, it can be beautiful at the same time, right? If you make the most out of it. You know, I would like to say I did a pretty good job at it, building relationships while I was in the league. Because nobody want to talk to you while you retire, right? They see you washed up. Some people think that you washed up, right?

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And they see the stats of all these guys going broke after they're done playing. Yeah. But if you made those relationships while you was playing, that's what mean the most, right? So, you know, in Dallas, you know, I was able to make some pretty good relationships while I was playing. That's still, it's still ongoing now. Nice. That's good that you had that mindset, right?

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