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$520M Exit: The Untold Truth of Selling Big | Yosef Martin DSH #980
Sat, 14 Dec 2024
🚀 Discover the untold truth of a $520M exit! Join Sean Kelly as he sits down with Yosef Martin, the entrepreneur behind this jaw-dropping success story. 💰 In this eye-opening conversation, Yosef reveals: • The unexpected challenges of selling a massive company • How he navigated a divorce during his business exit • His unique approach to investing post-exit • The importance of staying connected to your business's core From SEO tricks that skyrocketed his early career to scaling a $500M beauty subscription box, Yosef's journey is packed with valuable insights for entrepreneurs at any stage. 📈 Don't miss out on Yosef's candid advice on hiring, firing, and maintaining a growth mindset even after achieving massive success. His refreshing take on wealth and the entrepreneurial spirit will leave you inspired and ready to tackle your own business challenges. 💪 Tune in now for a masterclass in scaling, exiting, and reinventing yourself in the ever-changing world of business. Hit that subscribe button and join the Digital Social Hour community for more game-changing conversations! 🎙️ #alexhormozi #financialeducation #makemoneyonline #moneyfluency #financialfreedom CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:23 - BoxyCharm Impact on Yosef’s Life 03:17 - Navigating Divorce and Wealth 04:28 - Life After Selling BoxyCharm for $500M 07:52 - Yosef’s AI Trading Algorithm Insights 09:22 - The Purpose of Pursuing Wealth 12:38 - Childhood Influences and Development 17:37 - The Evolution of Facebook Ads 21:15 - Strategies for Going Viral 23:24 - Acquiring Companies: Key Considerations 25:03 - Achieving 15-20% ROI in Investments 27:40 - Overcoming Barriers in Business Scaling 32:20 - Key Hires for Business Growth 34:30 - The Importance of Quick Firing Decisions 35:54 - Encouraging Coworker Challenges 40:15 - Defining a Successful Strategy 44:28 - Connecting with Yosef Online 44:38 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Yosef Martin https://www.instagram.com/yflmartin/ https://www.instagram.com/boxycharm/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was the impact of BoxyCharm on Yosef’s life?
That's what keeps it exciting. But selling for $520 million, when did that happen? Well, end of 2020, I sold the company.
Oh, so recently. Wow. Was it a big shift in your life? To be honest with you, it was a very big shift at the time when I actually departed the company that acquired me. Because when you sell a company, mostly they'll ask you to stick around and I was supposed to stay for about two years. But about a few months into it, we both agreed that it's okay, and I was out.
Chapter 2: How did Yosef navigate divorce during his business exit?
And that was the moment where I felt my life changed. I did not feel anything when you get a wire into a bank account. It changes nothing in your life. Everything is the same. But at that time, it was an interesting time in my life. I got divorced prior to selling. I don't know if you heard about the virus that was going on. So everything was shut down.
Chapter 3: What life changes did Yosef experience after selling BoxyCharm?
So now I'm leaving the house, but everything is shut down, so you can't go out. And then eventually I sold the business. And just when I sold the business, they opened up the country. And a little after that, I basically, you know, we shook hands. We're good friends, good people. But, you know, we went our separate ways. And one day I dropped off my kids at my ex's place.
I sat down in my new home and I told myself I have a week until I have the kids again and I can do anything I want. And that's when it hit me that my life changed because prior to that, for 20 years, I was running companies and selling. That's not my only exit. But I was always having a business running. When I sold the last company, BoxyCharm, I had nothing else. I was all in.
And then when you pull the plug and that's it, now you can do whatever you want. It was the first time that I didn't have that underlying. I always thought that. People don't die from stress. It's a lot of excitement that kills us, a heart attack, because it was exciting to run a business. You're always excited.
Challenges are exciting, but then suddenly you find that there was an underlying stress that you don't know you presume because every time you are on a weekend and you get a call related to the business, you know it's no good. You know there is a problem that no one else was able to solve, and they're now calling you. So it's exciting on one hand.
Chapter 4: What insights does Yosef share about AI in trading?
On the other hand, you don't know what it is, but when you completely depart, It's kind of quiet. There is no fear. Now they open up the country. I have a new home. I can do whatever I want for the rest of my life. And that's when I really felt it. So it took me about six months from the moment the wire hit the account to actually say my life changed. Interesting.
That's a fascinating situation because you're dealing with a divorce, but you're also coming into massive wealth at the same time.
Chapter 5: Why is pursuing wealth important to Yosef?
Yes, I mean, the separation was going on before I sold the business. And my ex-wife is an amazing person. So there was nothing better than having her with me, understanding what's going on. And she was the only person that knew outside of the business people that were in the loop of the exit. She was the only one that I was able to tell. So while we're breaking up,
There was no one else I can talk to, so I was telling her we're going to have an exit. And I actually didn't tell her what we're actually going to sell first. She might have changed her mind. No, no, no, no. I was always thinking it's half and half. I mean, we build stuff together. But I wanted to – so what I did was I was telling her, oh, we're going to get like $10 million.
Chapter 6: How did childhood influences shape Yosef's entrepreneurial journey?
She said, wow, that's amazing. I didn't tell her before. Only at the end I told her – You know, we're going to sell this. And she's like, yeah. No, it takes eight months. So you just talk about a little bit once. Then I said, all right, do you know how much we're really going to sell this company for? And she's like, yeah, $10 million. I said, nah, nah, it's more.
And then when she heard it, she's like, what? Oh, my God. What does it mean? It was hilarious. I love it. And the thing is, while we're breaking up, we're still going through this. So it was exciting.
Yeah, that is interesting. So six months. What was the next thing from there?
So, you know, at first I was just enjoying the quiet and all that. But then I decided that I wanted to build financial skills. All my entrepreneurial career, I was so focused on what I do. I did not do real estate. I didn't do crypto. I didn't do anything. And why should I? There are plenty of ways to make money. There are plenty of ways to grow rich and grow yourself as a person.
You can't just jump into any trend that goes on. So I was doing one thing. Now I figure, let me obtain financial skills and understand real estate a little bit so when I build my next business, I don't have to learn.
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Chapter 7: What strategies did Yosef use for viral marketing?
All I have to do is improve my skills and continue from there because there's a big difference between going into a business, learning all the politics from the beginning when you're busy and you have already a business. Just your mind is not there. So I figure this is the time to do it. Otherwise, I'll never be able to do it. I need to know how to manage my money.
So I sat down with a friend of mine that he's a day trader and he sat down with me for two hours and he showed me his strategy, how he does trading. I started doing some options trading for fun and I started investing in some real estate and then just looking at the market. You know, you give the money to Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, you tell them to manage your money.
And I remember as I played with the market, I kind of noticed something interesting at the end of 2021 where it looked to me as if the market is going to crash. And I had a call with my Goldman Sachs advisor and I told her, Let me ask you a question. Do you have any KPIs for a market decline where we're going to get out of the bull market that we've been here? It was very bullish.
Do you know when so we can get out and come back in? She said we would never get out of the market. The stocks would always stay there. I said, yeah, but it's not what I want to do. I don't want to stay in the market. If we cry, we won't get out. And then. And, you know, she said, no, over 30 years and so on. Yeah, but you have lost decades if you actually look at the chart.
Some people have put their money in at the peak of a bullish run, and they wouldn't see the same dollar for 10, 12 years later. And, I mean, if you look at the dot-com, people that came at the peak didn't see their money until March 2013. Yeah. I had to wait 13 years. I'm not looking to be 70 to see the money back. So I just pulled all my money out of the market at the end of 2021.
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Chapter 8: What key considerations are there in acquiring companies?
And then the whole market crashed. Wow. You timed it well. Yeah. So it crashed. And then from there on, what happened, I decided I don't want to do any more. I did a lot of options trading. I was very good at that. But then I decided I'm not doing any of this. I need to build some tools. I spoke to a friend of mine. He's a data scientist for a big cell phone company.
He's my best friend and he's an electrical engineer by trade. And he said, I can build a trading algorithm that would beat any day trader. You just give me the algorithm. So we decided to go ahead and build something like that. So that was the first company I built. after that, it's a trading algorithm and so on. So we have that. And then eventually I went through other journeys
Got it. So the algorithm uses AI to trade?
So this is the beauty of it. The AI is a term that's very specific. Usually there is a reinforcement learning agent tool that would go and do it. It was still not proven to work for the financial market. You have other algorithms that gives you certain intelligence to improve parameters, and they were technically proven to work. So if you look at large conglomerates that are –
quant hedge funds you look at the renaissance technology that are known and like they were the first ones with jim simon they're known to actually use a genetic algorithm and so on so you have certain algorithms that do known already to be very effective for the financial market so we use something around that got it so eventually they might replace these day traders down right down the road
Well, obviously, yeah. I mean, the idea is that everything you're doing, there is a strategy and you have to have a certain discipline. Ultimately, you have many ways to skin a cat. If you want to turn profit, you can go with a Warren Buffett. mindset where it says you invest in American business that happened to be public and you want to buy into that, right? That's one.
And then you have the more risky, more, I would say, yeah, much more risky is going to be going in and out as a day trader. And if you already do it, it might be better if you'll have a tool doing it for you. It would always out to beat you just like playing chess against a computer.
Right. So you're still actively chasing wealth. So is there a certain point for you or are you just going to keep going?
You know, for me, I'm a simple guy. I don't buy expensive stuff. I don't care about any expensive stuff, but I just like the game. It's a video game, and the money is the way to keep score. I'm repeating someone else's words, but that is exactly what it is. You want to feel that you're doing something right.
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