Digital Social Hour
Art Over Numbers: My Journey as a Musician | Clayton Lisy DSH #1385
Tue, 27 May 2025
🎸 *Art Over Numbers: My Journey as a Musician* 🎤 Clayton shares his inspiring story of choosing artistry over chasing numbers in the latest episode of Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! From his transition from hip-hop to rock to his take on authenticity in music, Clayton opens up about the challenges, triumphs, and life as a true artist. 🌟 Discover how passion, creativity, and staying true to yourself can lead to a fulfilling career. Clayton talks about his unique approach to fashion, his commitment to his craft, and why he believes art should always come first. 🖌️ Plus, he shares his thoughts on AI in music, his admiration for Prince, and what it truly means to be an artist today. This episode is packed with valuable insights, personal anecdotes, and moments that will leave you inspired. Don’t miss out! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and let us know—what does art mean to you? 🎶✨ CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:27 - Clayton's Style Tips 04:58 - Today's Sponsor 06:28 - Discovering Authentic Restaurants 10:00 - Notion Sponsorship 10:54 - AI and Creative Jobs 18:09 - AI vs Human Lyrics 20:10 - Brain Surgery Insights 22:05 - Addressing Physical Issues 23:58 - Blood Circulation Explained 25:12 - Passions Beyond Work 32:53 - Hip-Hop to Rock Transition 33:00 - Authenticity in Rap Life 33:54 - No Snitching Culture in Hip-Hop 36:00 - Music Industry Fabrication 40:52 - Understanding 360 Deals 43:14 - Prioritizing Art in Music 46:15 - Achievement Reflections 49:10 - Identity and Success Metrics 52:16 - Upcoming Album Release 52:41 - Final Thoughts 54:00 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Clayton Lisy https://www.instagram.com/claytonthomasofficial https://www.instagram.com/ghostluvme https://www.youtube.com/ @ReversePathogen https://open.spotify.com/artist/6IAD8C2NCYddGZjBapx9AR?si=i_EZhZuMSdyLD9N0hEYDZw SPONSORS: KINSTA: https://kinsta.com/dsh NOTION: https://www.notion.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad #overcomingcreativeblocks #artisticdevelopment #artisticgrowth #musictheory #creativeconfidence
Chapter 1: What style tips does Clayton share?
Okay, guys. Got music artists here today. Clayton. How's it going, my man? Love the outfit. Good. Thank you. Really unique hat and everything going on.
Yeah. You got a stylist? I style myself. I've had people want me to style them before back when I was younger. And I just... I never did it really. Yeah. That's impressive. It's not easy to think of stuff like this, you know? It's a lot easier with money than without money. I think people like... But then, yeah. So... And it's just trying to pair the right things.
You know, a lot of people, they dress really corny. They wear like... They look like suitcases, you know? They wear like big...
Chapter 2: How does Clayton view sponsorships?
patterned like Gucci jackets and stuff but that looks like the same like the bag you know what I mean yeah so I might as well just you know have a handle on the top of their head yeah these days fashion's pretty important with social media I feel like um I think it's yeah I think it's always been important though in a sense like
Because like whenever you saw like, I'm such a big fan of like old rock music. Think about like Bowie or anybody like that or Mick Jagger or anything. They always, like if you see old interviews of them, they never looked like frumpy one time. They always looked like, kind of like they were spending money on clothes, in my opinion. I don't know. Yeah. No, I could see that.
Oh man, I'm already messing up at the mic.
Nah, even like pro athletes though, they're getting recorded walking in the stadium now and they got to look good. Yeah, that's huge. Yeah. Yeah.
A lot of them shop where I shop because I'm tall and then they like take a, you got to get to the store before they wake up.
Is all your shit custom pretty much because you're so tall and got a unique frame, I guess.
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Chapter 3: What are Clayton's thoughts on AI and creativity?
No, because of the, all actually the pro athletes coming in, trying to dress like better has like helped me in the last, like probably five, 10 years to dress like probably like 10 years ago, I would a lot less. And it was like, I had to like, so it was easier to like get into stuff.
But now with like pro athletes being like so fashionable, it's like, it's been pretty easy to find clothes, believe it or not. Cause it makes so much big oversized stuff. Cause they know like, oh, an NFL player is going to buy it or this basketball player is going to buy it. I know one store I shop at, me and this certain basketball player are like similar size. So if he doesn't buy it, I will.
You're just swapping clothes with him. Kind of. Sometimes getting stuff that they're even going to sell to him, but then he just like doesn't show up or is busy. I'm not going to mention who because I feel like he doesn't want to be put on blast.
Well, no, I don't think the store wants to be put on blast because they've sold me stuff that like, they were like, well, we were really going to sell it to him. But like, we kind of like you better because you come in more consistently and you're like, you're honestly like nicer to us and stuff. So I'm like, all right. And then I wore this shirt out that night and I was like worried.
I thought, I'm like, if he goes to the same restaurant as me and sees me wearing the shirt he was going to buy. I was like, I'm nervous. I was like just sweating bullets in the restaurant.
Just like, oh, like, what if, what if this, because it was a nice enough restaurant where I'm like, you know, there's a chance that like if he's in town and he's already here, he might come by and go to the same place. And I'm, you know, I'm screwed. Damn. Yeah, but it didn't happen.
That's good. Well, Vegas, that would happen. There's like, everyone goes to the same casinos, but I feel like LA is a bit more spread out, right?
It is. It is, but people still kind of, It's like spread out, but like a lot of the celebrities go to like the same places. And they don't really, the nicest, the best restaurants are like the restaurants you wouldn't expect. So it's kind of like, it's like strange. Like a lot of celebrities go to like all the hype places, but the hype places really like the food is mid. Yeah.
I mean, compared to like the price of it.
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Chapter 4: How did Clayton transition from hip-hop to rock?
That's how you know it's good. If not, like, I mean, why just eat something else, you know? Yeah. Absolutely. Food is a big part of my lifestyle. Unfortunately, it's a big part of mine, too. It's probably my biggest battle, especially being an artist. Yeah, you're on the road all the time. Well, they just expect you to also be really thin and stuff.
Chapter 5: What does Clayton say about authenticity in music?
And I feel like you don't have a problem with that. But me, I've fluctuated weight more than probably some of these fighters you've had on here. Trust me. Yeah. I've gone from weighing 185 to 300 to back down and stuff back and forth pretty quickly. Just cause like I started my career with 185, gone up to 300, been around 230, all kinds of stuff.
As I played college football around like at like three something, but like, um, you know, you just, you fluctuate weight a lot easier. Like with a,
you know you're pretty tall I feel like you're taller me or taller I couldn't even tell I'm 6'6 what are you 6'5 somewhere around there so it's like it's like you know it's just easy to put on weight like sometimes I feel like you don't notice it as quick it takes like a couple months and then you hop on that scale and you're like oh
As I've gotten older, I've definitely lost a step. Like right now I'm 195, which is the most I've weighed in a while.
That's still good though. Yeah. Like, for your height, that's perfect. That's, like, once you start getting into, like, because you'll just notice, like, inflammation is, like, the number one. It's all disease and inflammation from what, like, people tell me.
So, it's, like, if all disease is inflammation, it's, like, you got to think, like, inflammation, all that stuff is stored in fat and carrying too much fat on your body, being disproportioned. And we're probably like, you know, modern society, one of the first people that have really carried all this fat.
Cause you think about it, everybody used to just walk everywhere or before like industrialism and stuff and like mercantilism, everybody had a trade, right? Like blacksmiths, fishermen, all this shit. So it was all, it was all active stuff. Right. And then now it's like, all jobs are kind of like passive. Like we're very like cerebral, very computer heavy, very like that. Like,
Even if I'm playing an instrument or singing, I might be standing or sitting for 10, 12 hours. You know, it's not, it's not really a, it's not the same as like what our ancestors had to do. Yeah. So.
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Chapter 6: How does Clayton define success as an artist?
Chapter 7: What insights does Clayton provide on physical health?
It's inauthentic.
Yeah. Whenever there's high quality restaurants, it's not the name brand spots. Yeah. It's the mom and pop.
They'll have just also like a lot of like Japanese like fusion restaurants. And then like you can go to like Japan town, which is Satele. Or like little Tokyo is kind of like honestly gentrified now. But Satele is still like really authentic. And if you go there, like the Japanese restaurants there are just like… I feel like I never have to go to Japan in my life. As far as food wise.
I mean, people that I've even known.
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