Digital Social Hour
From 24 to CEO: How I Built a Thriving Church & Career | Pastor Lucas Miles DSH #1046
02 Jan 2025
From starting a church at age 24 to becoming a CEO, Pastor Lucas Miles shares his extraordinary journey of faith, leadership, and unwavering conviction. 🙏 Get an insider's look at how he built a thriving church in Indiana while standing firm against cultural pressures and maintaining biblical truth. In this powerful conversation, discover how Pastor Miles navigated challenging times, including losing half his congregation for speaking biblical truth, and emerged stronger than ever. Learn about his innovative approach to church leadership, his perspective on modern challenges facing Christianity, and his mission to help other pastors stay true to their calling. As the Senior Director of Faith at Turning Point USA, Miles reveals his strategy for combating wokeism in churches and shares candid insights about maintaining authenticity in ministry. Whether you're interested in faith, leadership, or building something meaningful, this conversation offers practical wisdom for anyone seeking to make an impact while staying true to their values. Watch now for an honest, unfiltered discussion about faith, leadership, and standing strong in challenging times. This episode is packed with practical insights for both spiritual and professional growth. 🎯 #ChurchLeadership #Faith #Leadership #Ministry #Christianity #PersonalGrowth #Success #ministrystaffing #turningpointfaith #churchgrowth #churchelders #pastoralleadership CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Eradicating Wokeism 00:33 - Involvement with TPUSA 02:27 - Wokeism in the Church 05:42 - Politics and the Church 09:35 - Discipleship vs. Celebrity Culture 13:28 - Qualifications for Pastors 16:27 - Bible and Cannabis Perspectives 19:15 - Debating Atheists 21:00 - Gen Z's View on Religion 22:54 - Engaging Younger Generations 23:51 - Addressing Ageism 25:10 - Keeping Ego in Check 26:54 - Finding Lucas Miles APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Pastor Lucas Miles https://www.instagram.com/mrlucasmiles LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
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I know a big thing of your messaging is eradicating wokeism, right?
Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Wokeism kind of very sneakily snuck into the church. And in many ways, I think that the church was actually the first place that it came into. But we start seeing early Christian socialists as far, you know, as late as the 1700s. There's a lot of bad actors. There's actually some dark money that's going into Christian organizations.
It's a pretty sinister thing when you look at it all around. And I think the more we can educate people on what the Bible says, the more they're going to be able to recognize sort of these false gospels when they're presented.
All right, guys, got Pastor Miles here. We're at America Fest. It's his third one, my first. Thanks for coming on today, man. Hey, thanks for having me. Excited to be here. Absolutely. How did you and Charlie Kirk first get together?
Yeah, so Charlie and I met probably about maybe three years ago originally. I actually at first had him briefly on a podcast show that I did kind of on the tail end of COVID. I guess it might have been four years ago now. And, and then, uh, I spoke, you know, we didn't interact super long though. And I spoke at one of the pastors conferences that, uh, TPUSA faith put on.
Um, and it was, uh, one of the other staff members had brought me on stage. Charlie had never heard me kind of on my own speak before. And afterwards he, uh, one of his team kind of called me back to meet with him. And he's like, Hey man. loved it. He's like, we want to get behind you. How do we support what you're doing?
And so about the last year and a half or so, we've been working together on a couple of different projects. I've been on a show a few times, did a freedom night with him in Phoenix where he interviewed me in front of about 1500 people. And then I knew that there was a vacancy in the faith role for the head of faith for Turning Point.
And I told him, I said, look, if you need me to vet anybody, I've been a senior pastor for 20 years at the same church. I had no intention of going anywhere, doing anything different. And I would have told you I was kind of unemployable. I've only worked for myself, you know, really. So I said, if you need me to vet anybody you're looking at or considering, just let me know.
And so he reached out to me around the 4th of July this summer. And he's like, hey, I got somebody. I was like, who is it? And he's like, it's you. And I'm like, wait a minute, what? And I was not ready for that at all. And so my wife and I prayed about it. I still pastor a church in Indiana near the University of Notre Dame. And then I commute to Phoenix.
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