Generation Z and the Decline of Intimacy | Rollo Tomassi DSH #879

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Yeah, total opposite. But that's funny is like, like my my notch count is like public domain, I guess. But I can remember when I was, I would be on Pat Campbell show. He was my my old partner from back in like 2017 2018. And he had a terrestrial radio show. It was a syndicated show. in Tulsa, Oklahoma. So like the buckle of the Bible belt.

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And I remember one time I said that, I said, yeah, my notch counts like 41. And like, you could hear this collective gasp from all that, like the women that were in the production staff. And they were like, they're like, oh, he's a man whore. And I'm like, but what's funny is like, then I'll meet other guys who are sort of in the space and

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And if you're not in triple digits, you got to get those numbers up. You're looked down upon. So it just kind of depends. It's all contextual, really. I mean, I would not necessarily disrespect somebody such as yourself for making that choice. It's a lifestyle choice. And for me, that's just where it was at. And I've been married for 28 years now.

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Wow. Nice. Myron made an interesting tweet the other day. He recommends people sleep with at least 50 women.

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Yeah, that's – you got to remember that's an abstraction too. So like – make the case for Myron again. When he says stuff like that, it just means like get enough experience under your belt so that you understand women's – female nature. And you understand your own nature as well.

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If the guy is approaching us from a position of abundance, then that's a different context than if the guy is like, well, she's the only thing I ever had going and I really wanted to be with her.

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It's just an insult that people use if they don't like you. Anybody they don't like is an insult. So I'm trying not to use those things, but I'm trying to put things in more objective terms. And so that's why I use average guy.

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I couldn't believe the stats on average guys and how many girls they're sleeping with. And I think 33% of them don't even get laid at all that are in

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Yeah, those are statistics from the GSS studies, the General Social Survey studies from like 2018. But they still track even right now. A lot of people are saying that they're kind of outdated statistics. If you look at like 2020, obviously during the COVID pandemic, people are either sleeping more together or they're not at all because they simply aren't getting out and going and doing it.

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Or if you're already in a relationship, how is that going to affect that? So, they've been doing these sort of follow-up studies right now from like 2021 to, well, probably at the end of this year, it'll be 2024, to see where it tracks. And it's still on a downward turn, most like Generation Z and the latter half of the millennials.

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are simply not having as much sex as, say, like, you know, the boomers and my generation, Gen X, did at the same age. Interesting. So you got to remember that a lot of the statistics that get thrown out there, you can't just take one data point and say, this is how it is. You have to take it in correlation to other data points.

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So if you want to look at a dynamic in a more broader sense, you can't just look at one particular set of data. You have to look at other data and then say, oh, does this correlate with what we're seeing in the other one? And then maybe compare that to even stuff that, you know, a third set or a fourth set outside of that to understand the whole dynamic.

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Got it. But do you think overall that, you know, people in their 20s are having less sex?

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Yeah, well, that's already on, you know, pretty much. That's been a statistic since like 2016, 2015, 2016. There's a lot of factors. Well, you got to remember what Generation Z is in. They're coming into their late 20s now. So I'm going to be interested to see what the generation is that follows Generation Z and see how things pan out. I am, in my fourth book, in religion, I make the case for...

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The different generations that have sort of come up prior to year 2000, prior to the Internet, prior to cell phones, prior to social media. And then you look at, like, say, the latter half of the millennials and pretty much all of Generation Z. They have never known a society that hasn't had cell phones or the internet or high-speed internet.

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They've never had to go through a dial-up modem or anything like that or really kind of go through the – for lack of a better term, the analog years than into the digital years.

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And so, like, I can remember where, like, when I was probably in my early 20s, you know, I still had a dial-up phone. Not dial-up, but, like, you know, push-button phone. And so how do you –

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compare that as far as like the sexual marketplace of say like the late 80s in the early 90s to what's going on today well the human beings are still human beings it's just again the context of that particular era and wherever you know you happen to be geographically as well so

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So my sort of experience throughout the years is not only colored by sort of like the analog years, the 20th century years, and then there's the 21st century years. And so, for instance, my daughter was born in 1998. She's never known a world that hasn't had iPads and cell phones and the Internet. And now we're seeing technology advance at such a rapid rate

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that we're having trouble keeping up with it right now. But I think once Generation X is gone, that's going to be the last generation that has really experienced life before the 21st century. Before technology.

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Yeah. That's why it's interesting, though, because there's so much access to women now in dating, but the rate of sex is down. You know what I mean? There's all these dating apps, Instagram.