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The $20M Church Mistake: Rethinking Business & Faith | Nicole Vallance DSH #972
12 Dec 2024
Discover the shocking $20M church mistake and why one former church consultant is completely rethinking the relationship between business and faith! 🚀 Nicole shares her powerful journey from coaching churches to transforming businesses, revealing why 97% of American churches are missing the mark. Learn why traditional church models might be limiting impact and how business leaders are the true ministers in today's world. Get ready for mind-blowing statistics about Jesus's ministry in the marketplace and discover why your business might be more "spiritual" than you think. Nicole breaks down four major misbeliefs about church and business, sharing practical insights that will transform how you view faith in the workplace. Whether you're a business owner, entrepreneur, or someone curious about the intersection of faith and business, this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about ministry and success. Nicole reveals how business leaders can make a bigger impact than 97% of churches and why that matters for your bottom line. Ready to revolutionize your approach to business and faith? Watch now for game-changing insights that could transform your perspective on purpose, profit, and impact. 🙌 #Business #Faith #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #ChurchGrowth #BusinessTransformation #Ministry #DigitalSocialHour #ministrystaffing #johnmaxwell #churchdisruptedpodcast #pastoralleadership #graceoverguilt CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:20 - Nicole's Transformation 03:30 - Misbelief 1: Church Operations Outside the Building 06:09 - Misbelief 2: Marketplace Christians and Financial Support 08:21 - Misbelief 3: Spirituality in Business vs. Ministry 09:52 - Politics and Faith 15:24 - Accepting God’s Presence 17:48 - Understanding Sin 18:00 - The Nature of Spiritual Business 20:15 - Nicole’s Current Projects 21:00 - Nicole’s Message to the World APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Nicole Vallance https://www.instagram.com/connectedwithnicole/ https://www.connectedwithnicole.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@ConnectedwithNicole LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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If a pastor has a job and they do have a job, they're not the ones in ministry. Ministry is what I do outside of the four walls of the local church in business. And so the ministers are not the pastors that are speaking on Sunday.
all right guys connected with nicole is here today going through a massive uh transformation in your business right now right yeah i am thanks for coming on yeah thanks for having me i'm excited to be here yeah because uh i know you used to coach pastors and churches and you're kind of transitioning away into bigger things now right yeah a couple years ago major major change and what caused that
You know, I have a lot of respect for, like, all the leadership guys, right? John Maxwell, Jim Collins, Patrick Lencioni. And I listened to a message from John Maxwell, and it was called Winning Our World for Christ. So I became a Christian when I was 19, and I listened to this message by John. You know, he was a church planter, pastor, just like I've been, you know, for 20 years.
And he said he had this season in his life where he calls it the crossover, where instead of just being focused on building the local church, he crossed over into leadership and business. And I mean, who hasn't heard of John Maxwell, right? And so he did this message for pastors and leaders at a conference.
And he said, what are we going to do about the 53% of people that are never coming to our churches? Like if you're a Christian or you believe in the resurrection of Jesus, you know, if you if you, you know, believe all of that and you want to reach people, they're not coming to church.
And so John talks about like how the church is irrelevant if we're not, you know, connected with people that are different than us. If we're, you know, not out in the marketplace in business and government. Like, we're so disconnected. And he did that message. And I was like, you know what? Like, I'm going to switch over. Like, I'm going to cross over.
Like, I'm really going to go after the business owners and the leaders and serve them and help their organizations grow. But teach them how to reach people in their business for Christ. Right. I love that. Thanks. You've been involved with the church for 20 years, right? So do you see the numbers dropping year by year?
Oh, yeah. I mean, the churches it is, okay, Sean, like 97% of churches in America are under 70 people. Wow.
Yeah, under 70 people, 97% of churches in America. If you do the math, like so on average, the amount of people that come to Christ in a year, 0.5% come to Christ and have a relationship with God from church on Sunday. 95%, Sean, come through a coworker, through a friend. And so we think that the way to change people's lives is by getting them to come to church. But it's not. It never has been.
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