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The Crazy Story Behind Hornblasters' Rise | Matthew Heller DSH #1351

Wed, 23 Apr 2025

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🚨 The Crazy Story Behind Hornblasters' Rise 📈 is here! 🚨 Dive into the wild journey of Matthew Heller, the mastermind behind Hornblasters, as he shares how his humble beginnings sparked a booming business making air horns a cultural phenomenon. From being raised by a professional clown in Florida to hacking NASA as a teen, to working with the FBI and eventually launching Hornblasters, this episode is packed with jaw-dropping moments and valuable insights. 💡 🎙️ Join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour as Matthew reveals his journey through tech innovations, building a brand, and even navigating wild PR moments like his infamous truck incident. Plus, hear how Hornblasters became one of the first brands to go viral on YouTube and why it’s still going strong after 23 years! 🚛🎺 Don't miss out on this inspiring and entertaining story that proves success can come from the most unexpected places. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 📢 Join the conversation in the comments below—what shocked you the most about Matthew’s journey? Let’s hear it! 👇 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:56 - Growing Up with a Single Mother, Professional Clown 01:55 - Getting Into Technology and Innovation 02:45 - Early Hacking Days and Experiences 03:39 - FBI Job Offer and Career Opportunities 05:59 - Today's Sponsor: Kinsta Free Month 08:08 - Early Jobs After FBI Experience 09:58 - Exploring Notion and Productivity Tools 14:58 - Aires: Insights and Impact 17:34 - Understanding the Patriot Act 18:53 - Dropping Out: Risks and Rewards 20:00 - FBI: Inside Perspectives 21:30 - Hacking: Skills and Ethics 22:45 - Tariffs: Economic Implications 24:04 - Kik: Messaging App Overview 24:56 - Five Nights at Freddy’s: Game Analysis 25:35 - Mike Busey: Influencer Insights 26:58 - Tattoos: Personal Stories and Meaning 27:22 - Where to Find Matthew Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Matthew Heller https://www.instagram.com/mattfromhornblasters/ SPONSORS: AIRES TECH:  https://airestech.com/ NOTION: https://www.notion.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. #hornblastersstory #businessideas #trainhorn #businessenglish #personalgrowth

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Chapter 1: Who is Matthew Heller and what is his background?

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Okay, guys, Matthew Heller, one of the craziest stories I think I've ever seen. So thanks for joining us today, man.

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Thanks for having me, man.

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It's great to be here.

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You're out here in Vegas, which isn't a common thing for you, is it? It's, you know, I've been here so many times over the years. My company Hornblasters is super involved with the SEMA show. So we're here like every November and I was on the board planning that. I really don't love Vegas. I don't like to gamble. I don't pay for sex and I rarely drink. So there's just nothing out here for me.

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But I'm so happy that we got to link up and do this. So super excited about that.

Chapter 2: How did Matthew's unique childhood influence his career?

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Yeah. Well, you were raised by a single mother who was a professional clown. I want to talk about that. Yes, sir.

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That is a very unique childhood. Yeah, my parents split when I was three. My parents were from Detroit. They moved to Florida in search of a better life. My mom and father, they created a mobile dunk tank and they used to set that up at the flea market. My dad was like a stilt man. And then my mom was a professional clown. Once they split, I was just raised by her essentially.

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A clown's world is what her company was called. And she was Rosie the Clown. I was a little kid clown. And that was an interesting childhood to say the least.

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That's super interesting.

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Yeah, that was down in South Florida. We did a lot of like company picnics and birthday parties and stuff like that. A lot of her customers were essentially in the cocaine business. And these parents would hire the clown to come entertain the kids while the parents would all do essentially at the party. That's crazy. But yeah, it was a really, really interesting upbringing.

Chapter 3: When and how did Matthew get into technology and hacking?

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And shout out to Mom Rosie for that. And doing the best she could. Shout out to Mama Rosie.

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Yeah, yeah.

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When did you start getting into tech technology? Just as an only child raised by the clown. After the divorce, my mom got very little from the divorce, even though they had accumulated a huge fortune. She was kind of afraid of my dad because he was getting into drugs. So they split ways. I was living in like a senior community. It was a 55 and up community.

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I really wasn't supposed to be outside or playing at any time. Mom didn't really have the means for a computer. like Office Depot on the credit card. I'd have it for 30 days or whatever their return policy was. And we'd kind of flip them and I'd get new computers every 30 days or so. Wow.

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She didn't know it at the time, but I was kind of gutting the computers on the inside, taking components out before she would return them. And I was eventually able to Frankenstein together a computer that I was able to just play on that thing. Wow. Humble beginnings. Yeah. Just big, big computer nerd. So you were a big gamer back in the day.

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little bit uh the games weren't quite what they are now but runescape yeah runescape quake doom wolfenstein all the super old stuff leisure suit larry um and uh yeah it's come a long way and then with the advent of the internet you know i was on america online and using different isps to get online and uh yeah so started off with gaming and then kind of delved into the hacking world

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just tinkering around and uh i was in a group of other fellow computer nerds and we would try to take stuff down and then put up our own names and give ourselves like shout outs and put posts like political cartoons and just like different things on different websites yeah vulnerabilities uh i was kind of more like a script kitty at the time not like you know super formal hacking but there was just a lot of vulnerabilities uh on the internet back then so how did that work you would was that the uh when you flooded a bunch of traffic to a site shut it down

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Yeah, you could ping bomb people like that. That would work. It would be like a DDoS attack. I found like a send mail exploit with some of my friends on nasa.gov. It was actually spacelink.nasa.gov.

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and uh we we put some stuff up there just again some political cartoons uh free there was a hacker named kevin mitnick who was being held without a trial back in the day so that was like the big thing we were just putting free kevin mitnick up everywhere did he get freed he eventually did yeah yeah he was being held forever um

Chapter 4: What was Matthew's experience working with the FBI?

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We're kind of behind the power curve when it comes to where we should be with technology and prosecuting some of some of these different cases and stuff. I had nothing else going on. I worked with them from Florida for a bit. And then they eventually transferred me to Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where the district attorney there had a little more capacity to pursue these types of cases.

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So I was just going after... locating people who were doing like credit card fraud, buying and selling, uh, credit card numbers in bulk and, uh, different hacks and stuff like that. Trying to, trying to locate people, uh, and help them with probable cause. I was essentially in a cooperating witness. I didn't have a gun or a badge or anything like that, uh,

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It was told I wasn't allowed to talk about it for seven years or so because there was a bunch of open investigations that I was a part of. 9-11 happened. I was working for them in Baton Rouge at the time. The morning of 9-11, I called my superior. officer that I reported to. And I said, Hey, are we working today? And she said, we're not just kind of hanging tight.

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Well, we'll talk to you next week. So I, I sat there for a little bit and the next week they said, Hey, we're not, we're not doing any of these investigations anymore. We're trying to do this war on terror thing. Uh, here's, here's your last money. They paid me in cash. It wasn't, uh, I didn't get checks or anything. Um, it was couched the whole time, the whole time.

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Uh, and then they were also paying me like a per diem for housing, uh, I kind of forged the receipts and was just living in my truck at the time, pocketing that money. And I'm so happy that happened because if I did sign a lease, I would still be stuck in Louisiana. So they released me and I went back to Tampa, Florida, where now I had this couple of years of no resume, no experience.

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And I wasn't allowed to say what I was doing. I had all this esoteric knowledge of how these things worked, but again, wasn't allowed to talk about anything.

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Dang, that must have been a tough seven year period then. It was a bummer.

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To find work. Well, I started, I just got a bunch of like part-time jobs. I was kind of like the grim reaper of death for a lot of these companies. I worked everywhere I worked. I got like 22 W2s that year, just kind of getting hired and fired. I was at Blockbuster Video and Service Merchandise, Kmart, all these places just kind of closed up as I was working at them. RIP Blockbuster. RIP, yeah.

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But then I got a job at Home Depot and that was really fun. I enjoyed that. I had a low rider pickup truck. And it went up and down. It had air suspension on it. I'm from South Florida and I always thought, you know, low rider culture was super cool. And I'm like, man, if I just had a truck that went up and down, I could probably meet a chick or something like that.

Chapter 5: How did Matthew start Hornblasters and make train horns popular?

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I always thought it was kind of unsavory myself, but it really is what drives the most traffic to the website is, you know, people just want to hear the horn.

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You built some amazing relationships throughout this process too.

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Yeah, I've been real lucky to work with a lot of folks. I was in the right place at the right time between Joe Rogan and Red Band. I met them real early on. We were the first, Hornblasters was the first sponsor of the Kill Tony podcast.

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No way.

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Yeah. That's a flex. Super cool. Yeah, I'm so proud of everything that Tony and Brian have turned that into. But yeah, I made just a lot of friends along the way. I've had some instrumental folks along the way. In Tampa, we would get some like newspaper press from time to time.

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And then one of the local radio guys there, Mike Calta, he did me a real solid and kind of brought me into his ecosystem and introduced me to a lot of his other friends and comedians. And it's just kind of parlayed from there. I love that, man.

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That's so cool. Are you going to go to the Kill Tony show this week?

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I am. Yeah. That was the being able to do your podcast and to go go see my friends. I love it. That's what I'm super excited about.

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I want to go to one of those these days. It looks so fun. It's incredible. Yeah, it's a great show. His Madison Square Garden one looked crazy.

Chapter 6: What role did early internet and YouTube play in Hornblasters’ growth?

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And I had a real big car show that weekend. So it really sent me back. But what's super scary is all there was a ton of press about that at the time, and it all got pulled off the Internet for the most part. It's not in any of the archives. Like I said, it's only on Daily Mail and some of the overseas things.

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And knowing what you know, you know that's intentional.

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Yeah. Whoever's got that power to rewrite history and pull specific news articles down. I mean, that's terrifying. That is interesting.

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Wow. I didn't know police could search your car, first of all, without you in there.

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So after it's all part of the Patriot Act, which we just renewed. I mean, after 9-11, we passed so much stuff that I think it's within 85 or 75 miles of an international boundary, which is where like 92 percent of the country lives. Essentially, the entire state of Florida, because 10 miles offshore is international waters. So then 10 miles, then 75 in the entire peninsula. Right.

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So there really is no. Protection, it's fully constitutional. There's no privacy and folks, your vehicle, your cell phones, everything could be intercepted at all times pretty much. That's good to know though. Terrifying. Thanks for letting me know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's that Patriot Act for us. I mean, I've been pulled over when I was younger and they just say, oh, your car smells like weed and they search the car.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And it's embarrassing. Like, you're on the side of a highway. Like, they're searching your vehicle. Yeah. People are passing you.

Chapter 7: What notable relationships and sponsorships helped Hornblasters?

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They made these things called like zip drives and they would put these zip drives on there to just capture all of the data that's going through the internet service provider. Yeah. The program was called Carnivore that I was working on. And it would just gather all the data. They're doing that now with the large scale with the Utah Data Center and the NSA. It captures all forms of communication.

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Wow. All digital pocket litter, receipts, traffic cameras. Everything's all aggregated, I guess, in Utah. That's nuts. Big Brother is watching.

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You got to be careful what public Wi-Fi networks you join. I just found out. Sure. I used to use the ones at the airport, but now I don't.

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Yeah, and what you're plugging into, everything. Yeah, the outlet, right? You're super vulnerable. Part of the Edward Snowden stuff from, I think it was 2011 or 2012, there was an NSA program called Dropout Jeep. And that was formed by an Israeli company that allowed you to see everything on iOS. You could push, pull, send files. You could read the contacts, edit the contacts.

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read the messages, send the messages. You could turn the microphones on. There's six or seven microphones on an iPhone. You could turn that on and hot mic everything, turn all the cameras on. And this was stuff that Snowden was warning us about from almost two decades ago now. So who knows what there is now, but that's the price you pay if you want all the cool toys. There just is no privacy.

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You know, it's scary because if you are an enemy in the government's eyes, they could just plant something on you, like some blackmail or some child pee or whatever, and you're done. Terrifying. Right? Yeah, yeah, terrifying. I mean, that is super scary.

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There's a lot of child pee out there, too. It was amazing. When I was working with them, I didn't have too much with that, but they would have us locate people that they were investigating and trying to find folks. I mainly sat on like internet relay chat and was trying to buy and sell credit cards. But a lot of it was trying to find those nefarious folks as well. Yeah.

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And there's just so many of them. It's way more common than people realize. Yeah.

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People are just selling credit cards on chat rooms.

Chapter 8: What happened with Matthew’s truck incident and the Tampa police?

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I've seen those and the ones who claim that they're FBI or not, you know, like the stolen valor kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. Folks, the security guards, so much great body cam footage out there now.

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Yeah. So are you pretty removed from the hacking community these days?

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Fully, yeah. And even then, I knew stuff. I knew enough to get in trouble, but I wasn't, you know, that... bleeding edge with the technology or anything like that. Now I'm a rusty, I don't know if I'm a boomer, I'm 43, but yeah, I'm totally out of it. Do you feel like it's way harder now to hack stuff?

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know there's tons of zero day exploits all the time and there's tons of vulnerabilities and you know folks that just have a lot of spare time to poke and prod and try to get into things you know there's there's definitely there's things that can be done out there yeah yeah there's some clever ones there's some clever hacks I got sim hack that sucked I couldn't do anything about it oh man

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That's a, they just, they clone your number and then they called my carrier pretending to be me. They must've bought my social security number off the dark web. Cause I heard you could do that. So they must've gave them that information. Maybe got a fake ID somehow me. And then, yeah, they switched it to his phone. No bueno. Switched my phone to his phone.

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Oh gosh, man.

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Yeah.

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Luckily no one's going after the air horn guy. All right. But, uh,

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Yeah, social engineering hacks, though. I remember MGM and Caesars got hacked a few years ago. Did you see that one? Yes, sir. Just social engineering. That's crazy.

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