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Why Tech CEOs Are Walking Backwards (Science Explained) | Knees over Toes Guy DSH #960
Sun, 08 Dec 2024
Discover why tech CEOs are walking backwards and the surprising science that's making this unconventional practice go viral! 🚶♂️ Join Ben Patrick (Knees Over Toes Guy) as he reveals groundbreaking insights about backward walking's impact on knee health, athletic performance, and longevity. From preventing injuries to boosting athletic ability at any age, learn why this movement is transforming lives worldwide. Ben shares his incredible journey from chronic knee pain to becoming a dunking machine in his 30s, proving that conventional fitness wisdom isn't always right. You'll learn how simple backward walking can reduce fall risk in elderly populations, strengthen crucial muscles, and why even Brian Johnson has incorporated these methods into his routine. Get ready for mind-blowing revelations about fitness myths, the truth about knee training, and how three generations can exercise together using these revolutionary techniques. Whether you're dealing with knee pain, seeking athletic improvement, or simply want to move better, this episode is packed with game-changing information that could transform your approach to fitness. Featuring candid discussions about the state of health in America, the role of social media in fitness education, and why leading by example might be the key to reversing concerning health trends. Learn how Ben's mother became a "super grandma" at 70 and why traditional fitness advice might be holding you back. 💪 Follow Ben Patrick: Instagram: @kneesovertoesguy Website: ATGOnlineCoaching.com #fitnesstrackers #technologyintegration #retrowalking #physicalbenefitsofbackwardwalking #reversewalkingexercise CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - JFK's Fitness Program 02:00 - Backwards Treadmill Benefits 04:50 - Advantages of Backwards Movement 05:50 - Knees Over Toes Technique 08:00 - Injury Recovery Without Surgery 09:40 - Tests and Supplements for Fitness 12:54 - Training Bryan Johnson Insights 14:56 - Fixing Knee Pain Strategies 17:00 - Optimal Training Frequency 21:06 - Managing Ankle Sprains 21:31 - Finding Your Purpose in Fitness 27:18 - Importance of School Gym Class 28:41 - Educating Parents About Fitness 30:15 - Health Trends and Reversal 33:10 - Sprinting at 70: Your Mom's Journey 36:50 - Flexibility and Injury Prevention 37:15 - Perspectives on Yoga 38:03 - Ben's Impact on Joe’s Mom 38:30 - Where to Find Ben 40:47 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Knees over Toes Guy https://www.instagram.com/kneesovertoesguy https://www.atgonlinecoaching.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the benefits of backward walking?
All right guys ben patrick here needs over toes guy. Thanks for coming man, and you brought a little book here What's uh, what's this book about?
Really appreciate being here. Um the book You can take a look at this if you want. Yeah, it looks old the books from the 1960s physical fitness program Yeah, jfk had this book done He was actually having good results with American fitness for adults. He had a good youth system going. So in 60 years, we've advanced in a lot of ways. Yeah. We haven't advanced in our fitness, but we could.
So that's really where my energy pours into now. The knees and how to have a system that like a whole family can do.
So you think we've been pretty stagnant in the fitness category the past 60 years?
I mean, the overall health has definitely gone down over these past 60 years. Wow, down? The average health, yeah.
Yeah, the lifespan has dropped a little bit, right?
Yeah, definitely. Like the fitness of youth today is in a whole league lower than it was 60 years ago.
And do you think technology is a big part of that?
It's definitely...
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Chapter 2: How has Ben Patrick transformed his fitness journey?
12?
Yeah. I was the crazy work ethic basketball kid who worked myself to chronic knee pain by 12, like a badge of honor. Only by 18, major knee surgery. Reached my 20s having never dunked. Wow. No bounce. But through that whole 12 to 18, the knee pain was there. So the muscles weren't forming right. Couldn't jump well. was never taught about knees over toes training.
In fact, went to trainers and was always told no knees over toes. So then in my 20s, stumbled on the walking backward with a sled, adding resistance to it somehow. Every step you take, your knee is over your toes. And I've kept obsessing on that for years. really when I was 18 is when I first found that. So I'm 33, so like 15 years I've been obsessing on knees over toes training.
So yeah, if you learn how to train with your knees over your toes without working through pain, it's like a cheat code for jumping higher and protecting your knee rather than just completely avoiding that position.
Incredible, because I was taught that too, no knees over toes. You start to wonder how much of the stuff we were taught growing up was incorrect.
Yeah, it was understandable, found in the 1970s. When your knee is over your toes, there's more pressure. There wasn't like long-term studies showing it was bad, just that it's more pressure. So the conclusion was no knees over toes. That goes into the college textbooks. Exercise in the 70s was not like a university subject.
It was guys like Arnold Schwarzenegger slinging weights, using full range of motion. They were knees over toes. Like knees over toes was a thing. No one even had to mention it. It just naturally was part of lifting weights. Until academia said, no knees over toes. Without evidence, just the assumption. Pressure on the knee, when the knee is over the toes, equals avoid it.
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Chapter 3: Why is traditional fitness advice potentially misleading?
Chapter 4: What are the strategies for knee pain recovery?
Yeah.
And there's, you know, added benefits to backward in addition to forward.
Right. And you have a backwards treadmill that you sell now, right?
Yeah. I encourage people to fit some backward into the routine in any way, whether it's like my parents, they hold hands. So one person can see where they're going and the other walks backward. So I say like at least 200 yards each way. Fantastic.
Just 200 yards. That's not too far.
You can do more if you want. Okay. That'd be pretty good. 200 yards backward. For kids, I encourage them to not just run forward, but run backward as well. Like with youth sports, I'd be doing the conditioning as much backward as forward. Wow. Yeah. And then for adults, really anyone could apply this. The kids could apply it. The grandparents could apply it.
But definitely once it gets into the strength training department, adding some resistance to backward walking, like backward walking with a sled. Fantastic exercise. And yeah, I make only after answering thousands of times what do I do without a sled to get resistance. Well, you can find a hill. You can have a buddy in a car with the car in neutral, put your butt against the bumper.
That was one of the ways I got off painkillers for my knees. Wow. My buddy taking turns steering the car, so there's resistance. The car's in neutral, butt against the bumper, and working hard backward. Yeah, so after a decade of answering that question, yeah, I make a treadmill now that someone can have at home relatively affordably and get resistance backward, a backward treadmill.
Nice. And what's the whole philosophy behind the backwards movement? Yeah.
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Chapter 5: How can backward walking prevent falls in the elderly?
Chapter 6: Why might technology be contributing to declining health?
And do you think technology is a big part of that?
It's definitely...
very enticing like entertainment technology these days is like really good right really entertaining reasons not to be moving our bodies yeah we're super sedentary these days the work corporate lifestyle yeah average steps are probably down from six years ago tremendously i'd assume yeah i'm only walking like six thousand a day right now which is decent but yeah they say ten thousand is what you should be doing right
Yeah, something like that. And you're doing that backwards.
I don't think I'm doing 10,000 steps a day backward, but I will say definitely increases the total step count.
Yeah.
And there's, you know, added benefits to backward in addition to forward.
Right. And you have a backwards treadmill that you sell now, right?
Yeah. I encourage people to fit some backward into the routine in any way, whether it's like my parents, they hold hands. So one person can see where they're going and the other walks backward. So I say like at least 200 yards each way. Fantastic.
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Chapter 7: How does backward walking improve athletic performance?
Chapter 8: What role does purpose play in fitness and health?
That was one of the ways I got off painkillers for my knees. Wow. My buddy taking turns steering the car, so there's resistance. The car's in neutral, butt against the bumper, and working hard backward. Yeah, so after a decade of answering that question, yeah, I make a treadmill now that someone can have at home relatively affordably and get resistance backward, a backward treadmill.
Nice. And what's the whole philosophy behind the backwards movement? Yeah.
So forward, super good. Think walking, lots of correlation to longevity. Think athletes sprinting. I mean, there's few exercises better than sprinting in terms of the total benefit. When you go backward, it adds some rehab benefits. So if you imagine like walking forward, your heel hits the ground and then you step. Heel hits the ground, then you step.
The moment you go to take a step backward, your toes first. So it's stimulating your foot differently. It's stimulating your lower leg muscles differently. And if you look from a side angle, when you go to take a step backward, your knee is then over your toe. So there's pressure on the muscles differently around the knee. So when you go backward...
it is almost like a rehab for forward activities. So it's not that forward isn't amazing, but it's really cool how you can balance and do backward work and then have less pain, more ability forward.
Right. And doing that was a big part of your rehab, right? I know you've had some pretty nasty injuries.
12?
Yeah. I was the crazy work ethic basketball kid who worked myself to chronic knee pain by 12, like a badge of honor. Only by 18, major knee surgery. Reached my 20s having never dunked. Wow. No bounce. But through that whole 12 to 18, the knee pain was there. So the muscles weren't forming right. Couldn't jump well. was never taught about knees over toes training.
In fact, went to trainers and was always told no knees over toes. So then in my 20s, stumbled on the walking backward with a sled, adding resistance to it somehow. Every step you take, your knee is over your toes. And I've kept obsessing on that for years. really when I was 18 is when I first found that. So I'm 33, so like 15 years I've been obsessing on knees over toes training.
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