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Diverse: a SWE podcast

Ep 323: Beyond the Leaky Pipeline With Cassie Leonard and Ashley Wynne

08 Jul 2025

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The term “leaky pipeline” is often used to describe why women leave STEM careers, but does that language tell the full story? In this episode, Cassie Leonard, aerospace engineer and founder of ELMM Coaching, and Ashley Wynne, technical engineering manager and co-lead of the HeforSWE Affinity Group, share a more nuanced understanding of why women leave engineering roles and how to support their continued growth in the field. In conversation with SWE Executive Director & CEO Karen Horting, hear the limitations of the leaky pipeline analogy and the top pieces of advice for leaders who want to retain STEM talent. Plus, learn about an upcoming book that includes personal stories of women in STEM asking, “Should I stay or should I go?” --- The Society of Women Engineers is a powerful, global force uniting 50,000 members of all genders spanning 85 countries. We are the world’s largest advocate and catalyst for change for women in engineering and technology. To join and access all the exclusive benefits to elevate your professional journey, visit membership.swe.org.

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