Dressed: The History of Fashion

Madam C.J. Walker: An Interview with A’Lelia Bundles

22 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In the early years of the twentieth century, Madam C.J. Walker built an international, Black hair care empire from the ground floor up, transforming h...

Women Dressing Women, an interview with Mellissa Huber, part II

15 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In part II of our episode on The Costume Institute's exhibition Women Dressing Women, co-curator Mellissa Huber takes us behind the scenes and shines ...

Women Dressing Women, an interview with Mellissa Huber and Karen Van Godtsenhoven, part I

13 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week we are joined by Mellissa Huber and Karen Van Godtsenhoven, curators of The Costume Institute's exhibition Women Dressing Women, which is on...

Handmade in NYC: The Art of Flower Making with Adam Brand of M&S Schmalberg

08 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Fourth generation flower maker Adam Brand takes us behind the scenes of his family's business M&S Schmalberg. Founded by his family in 1916, the compa...

Handmade in NYC: The Art of Pleating with George Kalajian of Tom's Sons International Pleating

06 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Fifth generation master pleater George Kalajian’s family has been perfecting the art of the pleat since the 19th century. He joins us to discuss the...

Dressing to Undress, an interview with Dita Von Teese, part 2

01 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Our favorite vedette, Dita Von Teese, joins us this for part 2 of our conversation this week to chat about being the first-ever guest star at Paris' l...

Dressing to Undress, an interview with Dita Von Teese, part 1

30 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We are kicking off our seventh season of Dressed in spectacular style as we are joined all this week by the one and only Dita Von Teese! A longtime vi...

'Tis the Season III: History's Gift Hits (And Misses)

30 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Join us for our now annual holiday party where we 'exchange' some of their favorite gifts from fashion's past and present. Gifts you can gift! Our ...

The Battle of Versailles: 50 Years Later with "Halstonette" Chris Royer

28 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week marks the 50th anniversary of one of American fashion's greatest moments: the Battle of Versailles. "Halstonette" Chris Royer joins us to di...

Fashion History Now #59

23 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It's official!!! In today's episode we announce the launch of Dressed: The School of Fashion, chat about Prada's upcoming trip to the moon and recomm...

Jane Austen's Wardrobe, an interview with Dr. Hilary Davidson

21 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Have you ever pondered, 'but, what would Jane Austen wear?' We have all the answers for you in this episode, as Dr. Hilary Davidson joins us to talk a...

Fashion History Now #58

16 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In today's episode, we answer some listener mail about what is and what isn't fast fashion, discuss the documentary Unboxing Shein and chat about th...

Ann Lowe: American Couturier, an interview with Elizabeth Way

14 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Custom couturier to brides, debutantes and American socialites, including Jacqueline Bouvier and Marjorie Merriweather Post, The Saturday Evening Pos...

Fly: The Big Book of Basketball Fashion with Mitchell S. Jackson

09 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Just as fashion is more than pretty clothes, basketball is more than just a game. Pulitzer Prize winning author Mitchell S. Jackson joins us to discus...

Invisible Beauty: An Interview with Bethann Hardison

07 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Fashion luminary and trailblazing model, agent and activist Bethann Hardison joins us to discuss her life and legacy as explored in the new documentar...

Fashioned by Sargent, an interview with Dr. Erica Hirshler, part 2

02 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In part two of our 2-part episode on the MFA Boston's exhibition Fashioned by Sargent, art historian Dr. Erica Hirshler re-joins us to speak about so...

Fashioned by Sargent: an interview with Dr. Erica Hirshler, part 1

31 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

All this week, Dr. Erica Hirshler joins us to talk about the sartorial stylings of one of history's great painters of fashion, John Singer Sargent. In...

Fashioning the Gilded Age: Tariffs, Thieves, and TV with Dr. Elizabeth L. Block, Part II

26 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Nothing gets between a woman and her fashion! Dr. Elizabeth Block joins us for part two of our episode on Gilded Age fashion in a discussion on fashio...

Fashioning the Gilded Age: The Women Who Influenced French Fashion with Dr. Elizabeth L. Block, Part I

24 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Elizabeth Block joins us to discuss her book Dressing Up: The Women Who Influenced French Fashion which celebrates the lesser known figures behind...

What's In Your Closet, Emma P?: Jacques Cartier

19 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we launch a new segment of Dressed! What's In Your Closet episodes will delve into the items in your closets. In our inaugural episode, w...

Let's Party Like it's 1889!: Etiquette of the Fête in Gilded Age New York

17 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Anticipating the premier of The Gilded Age season 2 next week, we examine the practices and pitfalls of party etiquette of the American elite during t...

Fashion History Now #57

14 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From 19th-century hand-embroidered laundry pillows to the fashion fantasy dreamscapes of Tilda Swinton and Tim Walker, we bring you the latest news fr...

Fashion History Titles from the Dressed Bookshelf

10 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We highlight a few of our favorite fashion history titles from the hundreds on the Dressed bookshelf. Books discussed in today's episode: Chinese Dr...

Wear Next: Fashioning the Future, an interview with Clare Press, part 2

06 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In part two of our episode with sustainability communicator Clare Press of the podcast Wardrobe Crisis, we discuss a whole host of innovators who are ...

Wear Next: Fashioning the Future, an interview with Clare Press, part 1

05 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our favorite fashion activist and fellow podcastress, Clare Press of Wardrobe Crisis, joins us in this first installment of this week's two-part epis...

From the Moulin Rouge to Elvis: Costuming Fashion History with Catherine Martin, Part II

28 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Costume and production designer Catherine Martin takes us behind the seams of her and her team's work on the 2022 Elvis biopic, directed by Baz Luhrma...

From the Moulin Rouge to Elvis: Costuming Fashion History with Catherine Martin, Part I

26 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Four time Academy Award winning costume and production designer Catherine Martin joins us to talk about her illustrious four plus decade long career d...

Fashion History Now #56

21 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we catch up on the departure of more than one notable fashion designer, recommend a bevy of documentaries out now on the modeling industry, ...

"It's Got Pockets!": Gender and Pocket Parity, an interview with Dr. Hannah Carlson

19 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we address our most requested topic of all time: 'why do women's garments have fewer pockets?!' Dr. Hannah Carlson joins us to discuss her r...

Medieval Peasant Pageantry with Greedy Peasant's Tyler Gunther

14 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Oh the perils of being a Medieval, tassel loving peasant in the 21st century! In this episode, we meet Tyler Gunther, the peasant behind Greedy Peasan...

The First Book of Fashion: 16th Century Fashion Blogging with Ulinka Rublack and Maria Hayward

12 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From 1520 to 1560, the style-conscious accountant Matthäus Schwarz and his son Veit Konrad immortalized their adventures in dressing in a series of s...

Silver Slippers, Disco Dandies, Oh My! Costuming 1975’s “The Wiz”

07 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode, we go "behind the seams" of Geoffrey Holder's whimsical costume designs for the seven-time, Tony Award winning smash hit The Wiz, whi...

Hollywood to High Fashion, The Life and Work of Gilbert Adrian, part 2

05 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In the conclusion of our two-part episode on the work of Hollywood designer Gilbert Adrian, we turn our attention away from his time at MGM costuming ...

Fashion History Now #55

31 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we get get the inside scoop on a new fashion history television series coming early next year, chat about France's new incentive to encourag...

Hollywood to High Fashion: The Life and Work of Gilbert Adrian, part 1

29 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

One of American fashion's greats, the work Gilbert Adrian defined classic Hollywood glamour and pushed high fashion in new directions during the 1930s...

Fashion History Now #54: SWAIA Indigenous Fashion with Amber-Dawn Bear Robe

24 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Amber-Dawn Bear Robe joins us to discuss the past, present, and future of Indigenous fashion, including the myriad of fashion design talents seen on t...

Lee Alexander McQueen: Mind, Mythos, Muse with Clarissa Esguerra and Michaela Hansen

22 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The work of the late, great designer Lee Alexander McQueen consistently blurred the lines between fashion and art, a fact celebrated in the exhibition...

Fashion History Mystery #60: What's Up, Lilli Ann?

17 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Today's we answer several listeners' requests for an episode on the American womenswear brand Lilli Ann. One of the great runaway success stories of ...

"The Greatest Weaver Alive:" Dorothy Liebes, an interview with Leigh Wishner

15 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

No longer the household name she was during her own time, Dorothy Liebes has been recognized as "one of the greatest designers of the 20th century." H...

Fashion History Now #53: Listener Mail Roundup

10 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Today's episode is all about you, our listeners! We answer a few burning fashion history questions, share some touching stories and chat about the Pap...

Egyptomania: Fashion's Conflicted Obsession, an interview with Darnell-Jamal Lisby

08 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

For centuries, the art and aesthetics of ancient Egypt have captured the imagination of--and served as inspiration for--creatives the world over. Fash...

Barbie: The Fashion History of an Icon, Part III

05 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The final episode of our Barbie fashion history series explores Barbie's flowering into a fully fledged fashion icon in the 21st century and what that...

Barbie: The Fashion History of an Icon, Part II

01 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Barbie gets the full haute couture treatment in episode two of our Barbie fashion history series which takes us into the 1980s, a period that lays the...

Fashion History Now #52

27 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From the digitization of a fashion history treasure trove to Cinderella's real life castle, we discuss the latest things happening in fashion history ...

Barbie: The Fashion History of an Icon, Part I

25 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Barbie is so much more than a child's toy. Since making her debut in 1959, the Barbie doll has become a full-fledged global phenomenon--and fashion ic...

Dressed's Fashion History Tour of Paris, part 2

20 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Because one episode could not contain all of our Paris adventures! Today we chat about an exhibition on hair and body hair that we saw at the Musée ...

Dressed's Fashion History Tour of Paris, Part I

18 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From the houses of the great haute couturiers and courtesans to the oldest haberdasheries and perfume makers in France, this week we take you behind t...

Fashion History Now #51: How to Shop for Vintage

13 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

By popular demand, we bring you our tips and tricks for shopping for vintage clothing. We discuss natural vs. synthetic fibers, how to date garments b...

Rébé: Haute Couture Embroidery, an interview with Nadia Albertini

11 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Today we are podcasting LIVE from Paris! Haute couture embroidery designer, archivist and author Nadia Albertini joins us to discuss her 3-year projec...

Navajo Weaving: Art, History, Practice with Lynda Teller Pete, Barbara Teller Ornelas and Hadley Jensen, Part II

06 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Fifth generation Diné (Navajo) weavers Lynda Teller Pete and Barbara Teller Ornelas have been instrumental in rewriting the history and narrative sur...

Navajo Weaving: Art, History, Practice with Lynda Teller Pete and Barbara Teller Ornelas, Part I

04 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we take an indepth look into the sacred cultural practice and art form of Diné (Navajo) weaving with internationally acclaimed authors, edu...

Wigging Out: Fake Hair That Made Real History, an interview with Jessica Glasscock, pt. 2

29 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In part 2 of this week's episodes about wigs, Jessica Glasscock joins us again to speak about the market for human hair in the 19th century, some of t...

Wigging Out: Fake Hair That Made Real History, an interview with Jessica Glasscock, pt. 1

27 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Join us all this week to wig out with fashion historian and author, Jessica Glasscock as we explore her recently released book, Wigging Out: Fake Hair...

A Life Lived in Fashion with Halston Model, Muse and Archivist Chris Royer, Part II

23 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Part two of our interview with Chris Royer who joins us for to discuss her life working alongside the legendary designer Halston and her instrumental ...

A Life Lived in Fashion with Halston Model, Muse and Archivist Chris Royer, Part I

20 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

"Halstonette" Chris Royer joins us to discuss her life working alongside the legendary designer Halston and her instrumental role in keeping his legac...

Fashion History Now #50

15 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From the incredible history of silk marbling to the recent Pet Gala, this week we chat about fashion finds, current museum exhibitions and so much mor...

Stephen Sprouse: Rock| Art| Fashion, an interview with Niloo Paydar

13 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Perhaps one of the most under-appreciated designers of the 20th century, fashion curator Niloo Paydar joins us to discuss fashion prodigy Stephen Spro...

Fashion History Now #49

08 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From groundbreaking covers of Vogue to Beyoncé's Renaissance couture, fashion history is in the making! RECOMMENDED READING: Beyoncé x Balmain: htt...

Fashion History Now #48: Met Gala 2023

06 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Dressed is back and to celebrate, we are bringing you an annual listener favorite: our Met Gala coverage! Support this podcast at — https://redcir...

The Dress Diary of Mrs. Anne Sykes with Kate Strasdin, Part II

24 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/dressed-the-history-of-fashion/donations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoi...

The Dress Diary of Mrs. Anne Sykes with Kate Strasdin, Part I

22 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

For forty plus years, Anne Sykes (1818-1890) documented her life through fabric, creating a dress diary comprised of two thousand plus textile swatche...

Fresh Fly Fabulous: Fifty Years of Hip Hop Style, an interview with Elena Romero and Elizabeth Way, part 2

16 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In part two of our examination of hip hop style, we chat about iconic sneaker looks, high fashion's love affair with hip hop style and some of hip hop...

Fresh Fly Fabulous: Fifty Years of Hip Hop Style, an interview with Elena Romero and Elizabeth Way, part 1

14 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

2023 celebrates the 50th anniversary of the birth of hip hop! All this week co-curators Elena Romero and Elizabeth Way join us to speak about their bo...

Lebanese Fashion History with Joe Challita

09 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week, we celebrate Lebanese fashion history, heritage, and craftsmanship with Joe Challita, founder of the Lebanese Fashion History Foundation. F...

Fashioning the Guinness World Records with Benjamin Hollingum

07 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From the most toxic makeup in history to the world's first sunglasses, we discuss all things fashion and Guinness World Records with Senior Editor Ben...

Fashion History Now #47

05 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we discuss the recent Spring/Summer 2023 couture shows, some upcoming fashion auctions and how April and Cassidy both got suckered in by AI ...

Westernwear: Postwar American Fashion and Culture, an interview with Dr. Sonya Abrego

01 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Saddle up, Dressed listeners! Today Dr. Sonya Abrego joins us to speak about the multicultural influences in American westernwear and how the style--o...

Africa Fashion with Dr. Christine Checinska, Part II

26 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We continue to explore the landmark exhibition Africa Fashion with Dr. Christine Checinska, Senior Curator Africa and Diapsora Fashion at the Victoria...

Africa Fashion with Dr. Christine Checinska, Part I

24 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We are joined by artist, designer, and master storyteller Dr. Christine Checinska, Senior Curator Africa and Diapsora Fashion at the Victoria and Albe...

Vivienne Westwood, an interview with Alexander Fury, part 2

19 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In part two of our examination of Vivienne Westwood's career, Alexander Fury joins us to discuss Westwood's transition from the world of sub-cultural ...

Vivienne Westwood, an interview with Alexander Fury, part 1

17 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In late December 2022, fashion lost one of its greats. In part one of this two-part episode, Alexander Fury joins us to explore the life and career of...

Tis the Season II: History's Gift Hits (And Misses)

15 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In what has now become an annual tradition, April and Cassidy 'exchange' some of their favorite gifts from fashion's past and present. Support this po...

Dressing and Undressing Duchamp, an interview with Dr. Ingrid Mida

13 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week Modern artist Marcel Duchamp is unmasked as a dandy! Dr. Ingrid Mida joins us to talk about one of art history's greatest minds, his persona...

A Dressed Guide to Dressed, Part II

08 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

April and Cassidy continue their overview of episodes across the past five seasons of Dressed, exploring themes from fashion icons to living legends. ...

A Dressed Guide to Dressed, Part I

06 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

With over 350 episodes of Dressed under our proverbial belt, Cassidy and April break down some of their favorites by theme. A fun reminder for our sea...

Solving A Family History Mystery with Photo Detective Maureen Taylor

01 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Photo detective Maureen Taylor demonstrates her work by solving a family history mystery inside Cassidy's treasured heirloom locket. Support this podc...

Fashioning Family History with Photo Detective Maureen Taylor

29 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Maureen Taylor, one of the world foremost photo detectives, joins us to discuss the role of fashion in her work solving family history mysteries. Ma...

Fashion History Now #46: 21st Century Kilts, an interview with Howie Nicholsby

24 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/dressed-the-history-of-fashion/donations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoi...

Alber Elbaz: The Dream Factory, an interview with Ya'ara Keydar

22 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In April of 2021, COVID unexpectedly took one of the fashion industry's most beloved figures, fashion designer Alber Elbaz. This week we celebrate Elb...

Highland Style: Fashioning Highland Dress, an interview with Rosie Waine, part 2

17 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In part two of this week's episode on Scottish style, we delve deeper into the codification of tartan patterns and the relationship between consumers ...

Highland Style: Fashioning Highland Dress, an interview with Rosie Waine, part 1

15 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week Dr. Rosie Waine joins us for a fascinating two-part episode we learn all about the history and politics of Highland dress and the origins of...

Vogue Philippines: Fashion's New Frontier, Part II

10 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We continue our behind the seams look at the new Vogue Philippines with Editor-In-Chief Bea Valdes and Fashion Director Pam Quiñones. Learn more at v...

Vogue Philippines: Fashion's New Frontier, Part I

08 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Vogue has come a long way--literally and figuratively-- since its American debut one hundred and thirty years ago. We celebrate the recent launch of t...

Making Lace: Then and Now, an interview with Elena Kanagy-Loux, pt 2

03 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Founder of the Brooklyn Lace Guild, Elena Kanagy-Loux joins us to discuss her work and the contemporary scene for makers of handmade lace. Support thi...

Making Lace: Then and Now, an interview with Elena Kanagy-Loux, pt 1

01 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Lace maker and historian Elena Kanagy-Loux joins us this week to talk about the history of handmade lace and its makers. Support this podcast at — h...

Batman Returns to Hocus Pocus with Costume Designer Mary Vogt

27 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

For our annual Halloween episode we are joined by costume designer Mary Vogt who joins us to discuss her iconic costume designs for Batman Returns (19...

Tim Gunn's Fashion History

25 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Internationally beloved teacher, mentor, and fashion authority Tim Gunn joins us to discuss our shared passions for fashion history and the evolution ...

Fashion History Now #45: Fashioning Carbon Emissions, an interview with Nils Altrogge

21 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Are upcycled carbon emissions coming soon to your closet? Tune in this week as Nils Altrogge joins us to speak about how the Swiss athletic brand On i...

Generation Paper: Fast Fashion of the 1960s, an interview with Helen Jean

19 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Get groovy with us this week as Helen Jean joins us to talk about the fad for 'paper' fashions of the late 60s as explored in the exhibition Generatio...

The Gilded Age "Dudes" of Fashion, Part II

13 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We continue our deep dive into the inner fashion sanctoms of nineteenth century "dudedom," exploring everything from dude fashion trends to the epic, ...

The Gilded Age "Dudes" of Fashion, Part I

11 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week we head back to a time when "dude" meant "dandy," learning all about the now lost fashionable connotations of one of the most popular slang ...

Threads of Power: Lace from the Textilmuseum St. Gallen, part 2, an interview with Michele Majer and Emma Cormack

06 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In part two of this week's episode, we turn our attention to the technology that made machine-made lace possible and speak about some of our favorite ...

Threads of Power: Lace from the Textilmuseum St. Gallen, part 1, an interview with Michele Majer and Emma Cormack

04 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

For more than 500 years, lace has remained at the forefront of fashion. Join us this week as we explore this lace's history as a handmade luxury good ...

Invisible Seams with Filmmakers Jia Li and Jodie Chan

29 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Director Jia Li and producer Jodie Chan join us to discuss their documentary short Invisible Seams which tells the stories of eight different Asian se...

Fashion, Race, and Expanding the Narrative of Fashion History with Kimberly Jenkins

27 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Fashion and race are intimately intertwined, yet rarely discussed in relation to one another. We discuss why this relationship matters historically an...

The Lady Di Look: What Diana Was Trying to Tell Us Through Her Clothes, part 2, an interview with Eloise Moran

22 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In part two of our episode on style icon Princess Diana, we discuss Di's increasing sartorial freedoms following the separation from her husband and d...

The Lady Di Look: What Diana Was Trying to Tell Us Through Her Clothes, part 1, an interview with Eloise Moran

20 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Nineteen-year old Lady Diana Spencer stepped into the public spotlight in 1981 when her engagement to Prince Charles (now King Charles III) was announ...

Fashion History Now #44: Fashion at the 100th Annual Santa Fe Indian Market

15 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

From the city streets to the runway, April and Cassidy discuss all things fashion at the Santa Fe Indian Market 2022, concluding with an interview wit...

Walking in Beauty with Orlando Dugi

13 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Impeccable handcraftsmanship and storytellng collide in the work of today's guest fashion designer Orlando Dugi whose work is influenced by his Diné ...

Designing Motherhood: Things that Make or Break Our Births, an interview with Michelle Fisher Millar and Amber Winick, part 2

08 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In part-two of our discussion with design historians Michelle Millar Fisher and Amber Winick, we speak about specific objects featured in their exhibi...