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Don't Get Left Behind: The Future of Identity Governance

09 Aug 2025

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In this episode we are joined by Jef Kazimer, Principal Product Manager at Microsoft to discuss the critical role of Microsoft Entra ID Governance. We explore the entire identity lifecycle from joiners, movers, and leavers (JML), the financial and security benefits of automated provisioning, and the pitfalls of legacy IGA solutions. Jef shares his extensive experience, from deploying complex MIM solutions to helping shape the future of cloud-native governance, and provides key insights into how AI will drive the need for more robust governance and how Entra is leveraging technologies like Azure Logic Apps for supportable, long-term solutions.Subscribe with your favorite podcast player or watch on YouTube 👇About Jef KazimerJef Kazimer is a PM on the Microsoft Entra team, specializing in Identity Governance. With a career spanning from help desk support and consulting to his current role in engineering, Jef has a deep understanding of the real-world identity and access management challenges that organizations face. He is passionate about helping customers secure their environments by leveraging the power of the cloud.LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jefkazimer/🔗 Related Links• Entra ID Governance licensing docs - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/id-governance/licensing-fundamentals📗 Chapters01:39 From Atari to Microsoft: A Hacker's Journey 09:14 What is Identity Governance (and Why You're Already Doing It) 13:16 The Hidden Costs of Poor Governance & Licensing 15:58 The Customization Trap: Why 'Simple' is Better 22:57 Common Challenges in Identity Governance 27:36 Governance for Small vs. Large Businesses 30:51 The Secret to Great User Experience 42:33 Demystifying Entra ID Governance Licensing 46:41 The Future: How AI Changes EverythingPodcast Apps🎧 Apple Podcast → https://entra.chat/apple📺 YouTube → https://entra.chat/youtube📺 Spotify → https://entra.chat/spotify🎧 Overcast → https://entra.chat/overcast🎧 Pocketcast → https://entra.chat/pocketcast🎧 Others → https://entra.chat/rssMerill's socials📺 YouTube → youtube.com/@merillx👔 LinkedIn → linkedin.com/in/merill🐤 Twitter → twitter.com/merill🕺 TikTok → tiktok.com/@merillf🦋 Bluesky → bsky.app/profile/merill.net🐘 Mastodon → infosec.exchange/@merill🧵 Threads → threads.net/@merillf🤖 GitHub → github.com/merill Get full access to Entra.News - Your weekly dose of Microsoft Entra at entra.news/subscribe

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