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The Hidden Risks of Non-Human Identities in Your Tenant

06 Sep 2025

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In this episode of Entra.Chat, I dive into the critical world of app governance with experts Jay Gundotra and Sander Berkouwer, who unpack the hidden risks of non-human identities in Microsoft Entra. From shocking real-world breaches like Midnight Blizzard to a hilarious tale of a theme park’s water supply mishap, we explore why securing your cloud apps is more urgent than ever. Tune in to discover practical tips and tools to safeguard your organization without losing your giraffes!Subscribe with your favorite podcast player or watch on YouTube 👇About Jay GundotraJay is the CEO and technical founder of E-Now. He has a long history as an Exchange and Active Directory engineer, which led him to found his company and focus on solving complex identity and application governance challenges for enterprises.LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-gundotra-19079a/About Sander BerkouwerSander Berkouwer is a 17-year Microsoft MVP veteran and an accomplished identity architect. With deep expertise from being "in the trenches," he partners with Jay to educate the community and build solutions for managing non-human identities and service principals.LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanderberkouwer/🔗 Related Links* AppGov Community - https://community.appgovscore.com/* How Ownerless Apps in Entra ID Increase Your Attack Surface* Securing Workload Identities in Entra ID: A Practical Guide for IT and Security Teams📗 Chapters00:00 Intro 01:55 What is App Governance? 04:02 The Origin Story of Focusing on App Governance 08:35 Why App Security is Critical Today 14:15 The Dangers of Over-Privileged Apps 20:38 The Giraffe Story: When Cleanup Goes Wrong 24:42 What Should a Successful Organization Do? 30:22 The Full Application Lifecycle: Onboarding to Offboarding 35:38 Building the AppGov Community 45:04 The Importance of Education and AutomationPodcast Apps🎙️ Entra.Chat - https://entra.chat🎧 Apple Podcast → https://entra.chat/apple📺 YouTube → https://entra.chat/youtube📺 Spotify → https://entra.chat/spotify🎧 Overcast → https://entra.chat/overcast🎧 Pocketcast → https://entra.chat/pocketcast🎧 Others → https://entra.chat/rssMerill's socials📺 YouTube → youtube.com/@merillx👔 LinkedIn → linkedin.com/in/merill🐤 Twitter → twitter.com/merill🕺 TikTok → tiktok.com/@merillf🦋 Bluesky → bsky.app/profile/merill.net🐘 Mastodon → infosec.exchange/@merill🧵 Threads → threads.net/@merillf🤖 GitHub → github.com/merill Get full access to Entra.News - Your weekly dose of Microsoft Entra at entra.news/subscribe

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