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Everything About Hydrogen

Everything About Hydrogen with Audrey Ma, Head of International at REFIRE

08 Aug 2025

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The EAH team had the pleasure of hosting Audrey Ma of REFIRE, based in Shanghai. Tackling this currently controversial sector and geography seemed like a fitting end to Season 8, a difficult season for many of our guests in hydrogen and private markets generally. We get a chance to hear about the incredible progress in China in the hydrogen fuel cell and power mobility space, debunk some of the mythology around free flowing subsidies, and of course it wouldn’t be this trio without a few ambling detours and off piste discussions. About Audrey Ma:Based in Shanghai, Audrey is Executive Director & Vice President of International Markets as well as a Board Director of REFIRE. She is dedicated to advancing sustainable energy solutions that align with REFIRE's vision for widespread hydrogen technology adoption.In her role as Executive Director and Vice President of International Markets, she has been been instrumental in driving REFIRE's global growth by effectively navigating complex market dynamics and establishing strategic partnerships and local operations. She is able to leverage diverse perspectives, fostering a culture of innovation and excellence within the industry.A trained architect, Audrey held previous roles at HEAD Architecture, 10 Design, and B+H Architects, after which she did business development and Marketing at famed architecture firm Skidmore Owings & Merrill LLP.Audrey holds a Bachelors in Architecture from Carleton University and a Masters in Urban Design from the University of Hong Kong. Audrey is a frequent speaker and participant at United Nations and Hydrogen Council events.About REFIRE:REFIRE is the world's leading deployer of commercial hydrogen fuel cell mobility and power. The company specialises in the design, testing, prototyping, application engineering, and production of fuel cell systems for buses, trucks, utility vehicles, power machines, and stationary power units. Since its founding in 2015, the REFIRE group of companies has grown to over 650 employees. Over 3,100 buses, trucks, and utility vehicles powered by REFIRE are in daily use in 20+ cities across 6 countries around the globe. Their combined mileage has surpassed 100 million kilometres to date.--Links:REFIRE - https://en.refire.com/

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