Evolution 2.0
Episodes
Thin Places: Where the space between this world and the next is thinner
15 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Perry describes a series of life-changing "thin place" experiences that shifted his reality. This was presented to Adam Safron's Sapience group, follo...
Beyond Evolution: Purposeful Biology Isn't Just For Christians Anymore
13 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sy Garte's book, Beyond Evolution, is written for the person who is trying to reconcile their deep yearnings for meaning and significance with t...
Bridging Evolution: A Conversation Between Intelligent Design and Third Way
12 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What happens when researchers from competing scientific worldviews sit down for an honest conversation? In this dialogue, three thinkers—exploring N...
What does it mean to truly flourish?
20 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Andrew Briggs started to write the book Human Flourishing just before COVID and then the world went mad. Since then, the world has gotten ev...
When A Christian Insists On A Spiritual Demilitarized Zone
11 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Derek Dearden from the UK and Perry Marshall discuss how to hold deeply held beliefs while also making space for people with widely differing views. H...
Life doesn’t merely obey rules. Life CREATES them.
09 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Tim Howard interviews me and Sy Garte about our new paper with Stuart Kauffman, The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Biological S...
New Theory & Practice for Cancer – Azra Raza and Michael Levin
02 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Two of my favorite scientists, Michael Levin and Azra Raza with Aastha Jain Simes, put their heads together in this provocative and touching interview...
Donna Meyers is STILL beating cancer after 35 years
21 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
She's 86, yet she looks like she's in her 60s. After 35 years of Myelodysplastic Syndrome, she is still beating the odds every day. In our conversatio...
Irreducible Mind: Why the Current Paradigm is passed its expiration date with Edward Kelly
19 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Edward Kelly is a neuroscientist whose research overturns the current popular definition of the mind. We had a fantastic conversation about his non-tr...
Courage Fueled by Curiosity = Love
07 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Why are important conversations so difficult, and why is curiosity the greatest virtue? Dov Baron from British Columbia describes the emotional source...
Discussions About Science, Philosophy and Theology (interview by Subboor Ahmad)
29 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
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Detecting Cancer at Stage Negative One - Perry Marshall at SBMT
28 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Perry Marshall spoke at the Society for Brain Mapping and Therapeutics 21st annual conference in Los Angeles, 16 March 2024. He describes how outdated...
Brothers Reunite: The Story Behind Evolution 2.0
23 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
EXACTLY 20 years ago this week, I flew to China to see my brother Bryan.We got into an argument on a bus (a story I’ve told 1000 times). He wasbaili...
The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Life Sciences
10 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Well-known biologist and author Sy Garte, author of the new book “Science and Faith in Harmony” joins Perry. They explore the alignment between sc...
Special Update Directly from Perry Marshall: An "Open Source Breakthrough" for Saving Millions of Lives
03 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
"The Open Source Tissue Search Engine". This "Tissue Search Engine" will allow us to detect the early evolution of cancer -- THE KEY to reversing it. ...
The Quantum Physics of Business
27 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What does quantum physics have to do with business decision-making, art, and AI? Perry Marshall spoke to Brian Kurtz’s Titans group in Connecticut i...
Why You Must Be In Vancouver Sept 23 & 24
01 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Bob Regnerus digs into the real story behind Azra Raza's day long fireside chat in Vancouver, British Columbia Sept 23 & 24, 2023. Full informatio...
Understanding Living Systems with Ray and Denis Noble
30 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The overwhelming success of genetics and molecular biology in the 1970s had an unfortunate side effect. DNA became the 'be-all' and 'end-all' of biolo...
The Truth About AI that not 1 Video in 100 is Acknowledging
28 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Bryan Trilli is a serial entrepreneur who owns a company called Optimized Marketing that trains machine learning programmers to write better code. In ...
Johnjoe McFadden: Occam's Razor and Quantum Biology
18 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Occam's Razor says the simplest explanation is the best. While its application has many subtleties, it tells us that the best model of theory is the o...
When Dinosaur Books Are More Dangerous Than Playboy Magazine
24 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Scott Ransom’s mom grounded him from the nonfiction section of the library so that he would not be corrupted by evolutionary ideas from godless secu...
Nature’s Invisible Symphony: The Sounds of Life with Karen Bakker
20 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Did you know that 99% of the sounds in nature are at frequencies we cannot hear? Karen Bakker opens up an entire universe of sounds and communication ...
The Threshold: Leading in the Age of AI - Interview with Nick Chatrat
01 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
For many years, we humans have bench-marked ourselves against machines without even realizing it. Many scientists believe that humans really are just...
From Rebellious Teenager to Young Adult: Intelligent Design Grows Up
23 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Paul Nelson of the Discovery Institute blogged about my interview with Joana Xavier lamenting that we did not fully endorse intelligent design. This c...
Nancy’s Cancer: We spent $2M and tried EVERYTHING
14 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Riggio’s wife, Nancy, was given a maximum of 10 years to live in her cancer diagnosis. She lived for 17 years, most of them in a very activ...
Special Live Zoom Session with Jenny Davis
01 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Reversing Cancer needs your help. Some very specific help. . .I’ve invited Jenny Davis to talk to me about her struggles in the academic and r...
Rocking the Foundations of Evolution
02 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Karen Wong has a longtime interest in origins and evolution and we discuss what happens when you shift the definition of evolution. Old definition: Ch...
The Biggest Mystery in the History of the Universe
14 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Joana Xavier is a rising star in the Origin of Life field. She is a researcher at University College London. She recently authored a paper with Stuart...
From Evolution to Cancer: The Oral History of Our 7-year Journey
16 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The book Evolution 2.0 devotes two pages to the subject of cancer and it wasn't until two years after the book was published that this fact received a...
The Engineering of Consciousness with Michael Levin and Donald Hoffman
09 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Two leading pioneers in the field of cognition discuss the sea change that is underway in consciousness and evolution: Michael Levin is 10 years ahead...
Why the Bible Doesn’t Make Sense Without Evolution
02 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Why is there evil and suffering? Why is Old Testament Biblegod so mean and nasty? Why doesn’t God stop the injustice? Does God even have a...
Perry Marshall Explains The $10 Million Code Problem
25 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I sat down with John Maddox who has a keen interest in information, computing, biology and evolution. John cuts right to the chase and hammers on the ...
There’s More to Life than Description
18 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Science describes things by quantifying them - weighing, measuring, and counting - but there is a dimension of being that goes beyond all these things...
Who Knew Water to be this Controversial?
11 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Little do most people know that water appears to have remarkable properties that your middle school science textbooks told you nothing about, includin...
Donuts in the Oncology Ward
05 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Richard Jacobs of the Finding Genius Podcast has written a new book called Finding Genius: Understanding Cancer: 30 Questions, 70 Geniuses, 200+ ...
50th Anniversary of Nixon’s War on Cancer w/ Azra Raza
15 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
December 21, 2021, is the 50th anniversary of President Richard Nixon declaring that cancer was going to be ended by 1976. Many media outlets are cele...
A Nobel Prize Winner Warned Me Not To Question Evolution
03 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
John Lennox is an Oxford mathematician who is the author of the new book Cosmic Chemistry. He's written many books about the relationship between...
How to Solve the World's Most Intractable Problems
29 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In September 2021, a dozen entrepreneurs gathered in Chicago and had a seminal 3-day discussion and commissioning for solving the world’s most thorn...
Genome Chaos: Henry Heng delivers where Charles Darwin fell short
24 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It is seldom mentioned that Charles Darwin's Origin of Species failed to deliver what the title promised. The mechanisms in his book only de...
What Exactly is Cancer Anyway?
24 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Doru Paul of Cornell University is one of those very rare people who has both treated over 10,000 cancer patients as their doctor and simultaneously h...
High-Speed Evolutionary Mechanisms in Cancer Cells—Why Isn’t Anyone Talking About Them?- Rich Jacobs
24 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Today I don’t have a guest, but what I do have is a really excellent PDF submitted to me by aPerry Marshall. Perry, has been a really successful mar...
Quantum Entanglement, Psychic Phenomena and Consciousness
21 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Psychic phenomena have been meticulously documented in hundreds of controlled studies since the 1980s. Mainstream science publications resist acknowle...
An Invisible World Buzzing with Communication and Excitement: Jon Lieff, MD
21 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
There are very very few people who can slice through the jargon of molecular biology and explain how cells talk to each other in a way that a high sch...
Rethinking Cancer with Bernhard Strauss
17 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
A new book by MIT Press stresses the urgency of approaching cancer from new angles. Some are completely new. Others are 100 years old and never given ...
Chemo was like pouring bleach into my veins
15 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jenny Davis is a professional athlete from Scotland who found out she had bowel cancer 9 months ago. She tells her very personal story of chemotherapy...
Siri is not going to wake up any time soon? John Sonmez of Bulldog Mindset Talks with Perry Marshall about…Biology
18 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
John Sonmez interviews Perry Marshall and they discuss why it’s impossible for computers in their current form to become conscious; how modern mathe...
Viruses, and What Rich Jacobs Discovered From Interviewing 3,000 Experts
19 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rich Jacobs indulged his fascination with technology by starting a podcast called Finding Genius. He didn’t know that it would end up taking him in...
Childhood Trauma Causes Cancer; Therapy and Relationships Heal
09 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Eric Kuelker Ph.D. R.Psych. discusses reliable but little-known research linking cancer and heart disease to traumatic life events and stress. It turn...
Hear the Incredible Rob Berkley : His final interview
15 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Berkley left this earth in December 2019 as a result of cancer. 58. Rob was THE most empathic and warm-hearted individual in the entire marketing ...
The Ancient Greek and Early Church Fathers on Evolution
03 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Chenoweth is a theologian with a particular interest in St. Maximus the Confessor (700 AD) and St. Gregory of Nyssa (400 AD) who wrote about...
Zombie Cells Gone Wild
30 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
How does a psychology prof find herself writing a book on cancer evolution?And what does this have to do with the Zombie Apocalypse? Today’sconversa...
Sam Devis of When Belief Dies in Conversation
23 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Sam Devis is a former pastor who experienced a faith deconversion a couple of years ago similar to that of my brother, Bryan. After rea...
334 years after Isaac Newton: The Stuart Kauffman Revolution
20 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Einstein’s theory of relativity overturned Newtonian physics in the early 1900s. Nevertheless, “Newtonian” thinking has remained firmly entrench...
How To Halt Cancer at “Stage NEGATIVE 1” - Azra Raza
19 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Today if you’re diagnosed with Stage 3 or Stage 4 cancer, your chances of surviving are no better than if you lived in 1930. But your chances are 10...
What Exactly Is Cancer Anyway?
31 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This is a unique show in the Finding Genius series. Podcast founder and host Richard Jacobs cites Perry Marshall’s ideas as the impetus for starting...
5 Amazing Things about Cancer, Viruses and Evolution
13 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Perry Marshall was invited to Notre Dame Business School to present at a masters level class on new trends in medicine and biology. This talk canvases...
Ways to Win the Evolution 2.0 Prize
14 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Perry Marshall discusses avenues of research that may uncover the mystery of what makes life alive. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more in...
COVID Accelerates the Uberization of Food
26 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
In 2019, I interviewed Joel Salatin, advocate of alternate farming. Our conversation prompted me to predict for the decade 2020 - 2029 that laws would...
Picasso Tadpoles: Michael Levin on the 'Dark Matter' of Biology
10 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Michael Levin of Tufts University crosses many disciplines: computer science, embryo development, cancer and tumor research; limb regeneration; ev...
Cancer’s $250 Billion Elephant-In-The-Room
31 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Azra Raza treated cancer patients for 30 years, but not even the loss of her Oncologist husband could provoke her to write a book. It took the death o...
Trouble In Origin Of Life Paradise
25 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
James Tour, a renowned nanochemist at Rice University, has been openly critical of Origin Of Life literature for being too optimistic, too sanguine an...
Dynamic Kinetic Chemistry and the Origin Of Life
27 Feb 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Addy Pross is a Chemist at Ben Gurion University in Israel. He's author of "What is Life: How Chemistry Becomes Biology" by Oxford University Pre...
Lynn Margulis’ last interview with Conner Habib
02 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Lynn Margulis, who died in 2012, was a piercing luminary in the history of evolutionary theory. She overturned the money changer's tables in the templ...
Bloodhounds never forget a smell
28 Dec 2019
Contributed by Lukas
William Miller tells his story of being seduced into evolutionary science by a mysterious female named Sue. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for...
Michael Behe, father of “irreducible complexity,” vs. natural genetic engineering
26 Dec 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Behe infuriated traditional Darwinists with his concept of irreducible complexity more than 20 years ago. He argues instead for Intelligent De...
Joel Salatin: The Uberization of Food (Not Twinkies, REAL food)
18 Dec 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Joel Salatin is a "Christian Libertarian Environmentalist Capitalist Lunatic" who is re-inventing the way food is grown, distributed and consumed. Her...
What Did They Believe About God Five Thousand Years Ago?
07 Nov 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Heiser, whose podcast “The Naked Bible” got five million downloads this year, studied Hebrew at the University of Wisconsin and was confro...
The Impossible Marketing Problem of Science
30 Oct 2019
Contributed by Lukas
How is it that good scientific theories can take 200 years to catch on while bad theories hang on for a century...even when empirical evidence that co...
Jordan Peterson, God, and the Intellectual Dark Web
29 Oct 2019
Contributed by Lukas
What does Jordan Peterson really believe about religion? Is “the Intellectual Dark Web” just another 2018ism? Are archetypes enough to save the ne...
AI, Economic Warfare & Surveillance Terrorism
03 Oct 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Kevin Freeman, a global financial analyst commissioned by the Pentagon, is one of the world’s leading experts on the issues of Economic Warfare and ...
Why can't we have a civilized dialogue about evolution?
25 Sep 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Some science teachers avoid or minimize evolution. Others ram it down their students' throats. Is there another way? Michael Reiss, who is b...
From Atheist Member of the Communist Party to Fervent Believer
20 Aug 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Sy Garte is author of The Works of His Hands: A Scientist's Journey from Atheism to Faith. He is a PhD biologist who has published over 200 ...
Darwin, Hip Hop, and Racism in America
06 Aug 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Daniel White Hodge confronts racism in America as seen through the eyes of a black man in a mixed race marriage, communication arts professor and hip ...
Sorrow and Suffering
06 Aug 2019
Contributed by Lukas
What do you think about God when your newborn son dies in your arms? Khaldoun Sweis gives a candid telling of his life’s traumatic moment. Hos...
Meeting Grendel's Mother in the Spiritual Swamp
01 Aug 2019
Contributed by Lukas
“When Perry’s brother quit his missionary job and abandoned Christian faith, this plunged Perry into a deep crisis of questioning everything himse...
Why Christians have Failed to Reckon with Good and Evil
23 Jul 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Why is Old Testament bible god so mean and nasty? Why is nature so ruthless and unforgiving? Where do we get our ideas about a kinder, gentler society...
Royal Society: Perry Marshall's Prize Announcement in Europe, with Denis Noble, Paul Flather & Kevin Ham, including full Q&A
18 Jul 2019
Contributed by Lukas
At the Royal Society in Great Britain on May 31, 2019, Perry Marshall announced the Evolution 2.0 Prize was being doubled to $10M. Present in the...
Why "tweaking Darwinism a little" ain't gonna get the job done - Denis Noble, the Martin Luther of Evolutionary Biology
18 Jul 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Denis Noble, one of the judges for the Evolution 2.0 Prize, discusses in this interview why we can't just put lipstick on a pig - why the public ...
Perry Marshall's Religious Upbringing - Response to The Creation Research Society
04 Jun 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Perry responds to the 11-page review of Evolution 2.0 in CRSQ, the Creation Research Society Quarterly, written by Royal Truman:https://creationresear...
Consciousness: The Unacknowledged Truth
28 May 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Brenda Dunne was a scientist at Princeton University's Engineering Anomalies Research Lab for 28 years, where she and her colleague Robert Jahn perfor...
The Man Who Re-Invented DNA: Steve Benner on Hachimoji DNA
21 May 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Iconoclast, polymath, renegade and world-class chemist, Steve Benner engineered a new breed of DNA with 8 nucleotide options instead of four. This exp...
Ways to Go Beyond the Status Quo in Science: Rupert Sheldrake in Conversation with Perry Marshall
01 May 2019
Contributed by Lukas
While working in plant research at Cambridge, Rupert Sheldrake became dissatisfied with existing materialistic theories of science. This led...
Ken Wilbur, Involution, and Evolution as a Function of the Divine: Frank Visser and Perry Marshall in Conversation
24 Apr 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Frank Visser became a friend and colleague of Ken Wilbur in the 1980s and wrote a book about his work. In this conversation, we discuss ...
"Darwin Devolves" Review - Perry Marshall & Bill Cole discuss Michael Behe's controversial new book
19 Apr 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Behe's "Darwin Devolves" asks: Has Darwin solved the design problem in biology? Behe says absolutely not, and backs his position with detailed...
"It Keeps Me Seeking" - Interview with Andrew Briggs and Andrew Steane at the University of Oxford
11 Apr 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Two world class physicists from Oxford, together with philosophy professor Hans Halvorson from Princeton, integrate faith and science in their new boo...
The U.S.-China-AI Collision Course
11 Feb 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Former president of Google China, Kai-Fu Lee, describes the rapid acceleration of artificial intelligence (AI) technology in China. He discusses what ...
Bryan’s Story: From Missionary to Almost Atheist to Present Day #24
01 Jan 2019
Contributed by Lukas
The opening shot of my book Evolution 2.0 is an argument between me and my brother about evolution. Bryan had been a missionary in China, but in four ...
Interview with John Feldman of Symbiotic Earth
28 Dec 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Symbiotic Earth conveys one of the most important biographies of the last 50 years. It’s no exaggeration to say that Lynn Margulis’ contribution t...
From Logos to Bios: Perry Marshall Interviews Wynand De Beer
11 Dec 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Wynand De Beer has written a beautiful book From Logos to Bios. He links diverse ideas from the ancient Greeks and their ideas about mathema...
A Sacred Space is Never Empty: Interview with Victoria Smolkin
20 Nov 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Many have claimed atheism was only incidental to the operation of communism under Lenin, Stalin and the old Soviet Union. Victoria Smolkin's new book ...
Elon Musk, Joe Rogan & The Mythical AI Singularity
06 Nov 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Podcaster Joe Rogan sat down with Elon Musk. They discussed AI & Evolution. (Full interview at https://youtu.be/ycPr5-27vSI.)&...
Saving the World with Audie Cashion
31 Oct 2018
Contributed by Lukas
I just did a rock-em-sock-em interview with Audie Cashion of World Peace Center. We dug into…The business secrets of blue-green algaeWhy you go...
The Central Dogma and the Weismann Barrier: Does Genetic Information Flow Both Ways? Denis Noble Interview
02 Oct 2018
Contributed by Lukas
For a century, the belief was that genetic information built organisms, never the other way around. A new paper by Denis Noble definitively proves oth...
David Quammen Interview - The Tangled Tree: A New History of Life
10 Sep 2018
Contributed by Lukas
David Quammen's book "The Tangled Tree: A New History of Life" tells the story of evolution through the eyes of Carl Woese, a not-terribly-famous but ...
Claude Shannon: A Mind at Play Interview with Authors Rob Goodman & Jimmy Soni
10 Sep 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Claude Shannon made our modern digital world possible. He wrote a landmark paper called "The Mathematical Theory of Communication" which gave birth to...
Conflict Thesis and the War Between Science and Religion with Historian Ted Davis
10 Sep 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Did people in the Middle Ages believe the Earth was flat? Were Christians the enemy of Copernicus? Are science and religion enemies? Dr. Ted Davis, pr...
Evolution 2.0 Highly Abridged Introduction
11 Jul 2018
Contributed by Lukas
The Young Earth Creationist and His Curious Daughter.Dinner with my friend Bob, a Young Earth Creationist, and his 12 year old daughter Melanie takes ...
Evolution 2.0: Highly Abridged - The Road To Code
11 Jul 2018
Contributed by Lukas
What we know about codes has sweeping implications for not only science but philosophy and religion as well. We define terms and make clear who should...
Evolution 2.0: Highly Abridged - Ch#1 Bro, I'm Losing My Religion
11 Jul 2018
Contributed by Lukas
In four years, my younger brother Bryan went from seminary grad and missionary in China to the doorstep of atheism - and he was dragging me with him. ...
Evolution 2.0: Highly Abridged - Ch#2 Evolution: Truth Or Fiction
11 Jul 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Because I’m an Electrical Engineer, I decided to let science decide this for me: Does nature really point us to atheism? Or does science favor faith...