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Brand Strategy BEATS Performance Marketing: Head Of Marketing Reveals | ExperiMENTAL Ep. 3

24 Jul 2025

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In this episode of ExperiMENTAL, Sundar Swaminathan sits down with Nikhil Kant (Uber, FlixBus, Even Health) to break down why modern marketing has lost its magic and how over-relying on performance marketing is silently killing long-term brand value.You’ll learn:✔ Why performance marketing is losing its creative edge✔ How brand creates the only sustainable moat in saturated markets✔ Tactical frameworks: Get-To-By, Think-Feel-Do, and Hero-Hub-Hygiene✔ Why startups confuse product-market fit with growth loops✔ Lessons from political marketing and hyper-local segmentation✔ How brands like Liquid Death, MoCabara, and Adidas play the long gameNikhil shares real-world stories from startups, unicorns, and political campaigns to show how the best marketers blend emotional connection with business outcomes. If you’re building a consumer startup or running growth at a scaling company, this episode will change how you think about brand.🎧 ExperiMENTAL is hosted by Sundar Swaminathan, Head of Data Science at Bounce and former Uber leader. This show is your behind-the-scenes look at how top marketers and data scientists make smarter decisions. 🧠 Expect unfiltered conversations, mental models, and case studies that help you cut waste, build conviction, and grow your B2C business. 📬 Subscribe to the ExperiMENTAL newsletter for deep dives and frameworks: https://experimental.beehiiv.com/This podcast has been brought to you by APodcastGeek. https://www.apodcastgeek.com

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