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FEAR & GREED | Business News

Should you lease an EV?

06 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

1.128 - 13.387 Sean Aylmer

Welcome to Fear and Greed. I'm Sean Aylmer. Today, something a little different on the Fear and Greed feed. We're sharing an episode from our sister podcast, How Do They Afford That? hosted by Michael Thompson and Kenna Campbell, which comes out every Wednesday.

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13.848 - 35.404 Sean Aylmer

There's been a huge surge in interest around electric vehicles and novated leases driven by both tax benefits and the soaring cost of petrol. But do the numbers actually stack up? And who really benefits? Michael and Kenna break down how novated leases work, the tax advantages, the hidden catches, and whether going electric could actually save you money.

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38.303 - 47.096 Michael Thompson

Welcome to How Do They Afford That, the podcast that peeks into the financial lives of everyday Australians. I'm Michael Thompson. I'm an author and the co-host for the business news podcast, Fear and Greed.

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47.196 - 62.639 Michael Thompson

As always, I'm with Canna Campbell, financial planner and founder of Sugar Mama TV, the financial literacy platform covering YouTube, podcasts, Instagram, threads, TikTok, and books like our upcoming book, 12 Months to Financial Freedom.

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Chapter 2: What is driving the surge in electric vehicle ownership?

63.219 - 66.965 Michael Thompson

Not long to go now, coming out in September. Are you excited about it, Canna?

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67.025 - 75.364 Canna Campbell

I am. And if you haven't ordered a copy yet, you get onto it straight away because this is going to really transform your financial future.

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75.918 - 76.499 Michael Thompson

I like that.

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76.759 - 91.295 Canna Campbell

I'm really proud of what we've done, and it's so easy to follow along. Everything's broken down into bite-sized baby steps, and it's just clean and clear. You'll know exactly what to do, but you understand why you're doing it and the benefit.

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91.315 - 98.263 Michael Thompson

And no matter where you're at as well in your life, career, money, there is something in there for you.

98.243 - 99.905 Canna Campbell

And you take it at your own pace. Yes.

100.366 - 128.564 Michael Thompson

Yes. Anyway, there is a link to pre-order in the show notes, but you can also just find 12 Months to Financial Freedom wherever you order books online. Go into your bookshop and tell them to order it in for you. Coming out in September. Anyway, today's episode, Canna, is very much, I would say, driven... by the... That's a pun, but you won't understand the pun until you hear what the topic is.

128.624 - 131.51 Canna Campbell

Unless you've read the title of the podcast.

131.53 - 158.634 Michael Thompson

Oh, that too. Yeah, good point. Good point. It is driven by the cost of living, right? And the cost of filling up a car with petrol or diesel, which really, really hurt earlier this year when almost overnight... And what was kind of maybe $100? I'm thinking about my car, diesel, right?

Chapter 3: How does a novated lease work for electric vehicles?

924.936 - 933.589 Canna Campbell

So particularly people who are looking to refinance as well, not necessarily taking on new debt, but refinancing. you want to check this with your mortgage broker before you go and do this.

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933.789 - 943.961 Michael Thompson

What are the other risks here? Is there potentially you're not going to get the mileage out of it and therefore you're actually paying more than the value of what you're getting?

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944.181 - 962.765 Canna Campbell

Yes, of course. But then there are actually bigger ones, more serious ones. So, you know, with the fringe benefit tax, I know, well, this is why I'm so glad we're doing this episode because normally I would err away from this topic being a depreciating asset that provides, you know, very little benefit other than a lifestyle one. But, you know, you're playing with your adjustable taxable income.

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962.945 - 989.262 Canna Campbell

So your employer, because you're now packaging a car, can only pay super, the 12% super guarantee, on your reduced salary. So say I'm earning $50,000 a year and I go and package a $10,000 a year car and So $10,000, I'm now being taxed at $40,000 a year. My employer only needs to pay 12% on the $40,000, not on the $50,000.

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989.322 - 1002.519 Canna Campbell

So I'm actually now jeopardising what's going into my superannuation and therefore there is a consequence or a repercussion to my final superannuation account balance. Did you know that?

1003.3 - 1009.969 Michael Thompson

I did not. Well, to be fair, I also haven't tried to take out one now that's a good reason.

1010.118 - 1021.779 Canna Campbell

And same issue could increase your HECS debts as well. Not increase your HECS debts, sorry, increase your HECS repayments, the minimum repayments. And also if you qualify for any sort of subsidies like childcare, it can also impact that as well.

1022.24 - 1031.477 Michael Thompson

Okay. All right. The end of the lease, we talked before about the balloon payment. And so you need to be prepared for that as well, right?

1031.537 - 1031.637

Yeah.

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