Chapter 1: What is the main focus of Reloading Podcast 568?
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What you should do is you should stick with published loads. So, you know, we disavow any responsibility for damages done because you might not be following a safe and careful reloading practice that Jeremy or I or Jason or Trevor or Mike might be following. And it could possibly be the fact that you might have a tighter chamber. You might have a looser rifling.
You might not get the velocity we do or you might get more. If you're going to take in... Reload, understand, you're responsible for what you do. We are not.
hello welcome to the reloading podcast here on the firearms radio network presented by patriot patch company and fuzzy face nick this camera was way out of focus i don't know how it looks normal on my end so oh well anyway uh and uh camerado.com which it's getting to be season for camo actually it's already well past season for camo so you should go over to camerado to coupon code reload get yourself some camo
Yes, my camera looks weird, but at least my face isn't like three times the size of everybody else's. So I don't know what the hell I'm going to do. It doesn't have any ability to out any further. So I got to figure out something, some way to make it work or I don't know, different camera or something or other.
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Chapter 2: What are the safety disclaimers related to reloading?
I don't know. It's always something. So anyway, how's everybody? Good. Doing pretty good. I'm almost back to normal for me. Thursday morning, about 2.30, woke up. What program are we using for the show? We're still using Talk Studio from Streamlabs. And my guess is it's not streaming to Rumble. So you got up at 2.30 in the morning, Mike? Yeah. Had a little bit of a gut cramp.
And dogs wanted to go out, so took care of the dogs first. Then... all hell broke loose. Somehow I got the flu and it was literally coming out both ends. So, um, between then and Friday night, about six 30, I literally had, um, probably like 16 ounces of water, uh, 20 ounces of seven up and 10 salty. And that was it. That's one heck of a diet you went on. I didn't lose any fricking weight.
That's the bullshit. So I, uh, I shot How'd that go? Um, other than having some issues with the gun that self-inflicted, um, some dragging along the slide, uh, I figured it out, but proceeded to shoot, uh, the last two stages, um, about the best I've ever shot. So nice. I was down in, uh, smoking hope. I was down in the three, three and a half second range.
So that was a big improvement, but I missed three stages that I didn't shoot because I was having problems with my grip. And until I was able to figure it out at the practice range, um, Yeah. So it did not finish, but not bad. Not bad. So got to change a couple of things and put a gas pedal up on the gun. You'll have to go back to right after not bad because my screen decided to reload.
Toss everybody out in front. It will bring everybody back. I have to put a low safety, some safety on the gun that was shielded and put a gas pedal on it, and it should work okay. So I don't run my thumb up on the slide as bad as I do. So that's for next year. That was the last match of the year. Did you shoot better than the previous time? On the stages that I did shoot, yes.
I had three stages I wasn't able to compete in because the gun was malfunctioning. I thought it was the gun, and it wasn't. It was the idiot behind the gun. Yeah, I just went to a gun show over the weekend. That's about it. Nice. Didn't buy a gun, but I bought two sets, a set of go and no-go gauges for 8mm Mauser and 6.5mm Swede. Price was hard to beat, $20 per gauge.
And they were forced gauges, so not bad. So do you plan on buying a lathe now? Well, no. It's more for like if I need to check, like if I buy a rifle or something, I need to check gauging for the chamber. Oh, okay. So they were hard to beat. For $20, it's hard to beat them. No, not at all. They're usually $45, $50 each. Yep. Good price. They're in good shape. Oh, yeah. They're almost brand new.
In other words, they haven't been dropped on the floor a lot. No, I didn't see any dings, any dents on them, any markings or anything. Yeah, they were really nice and clean. Still in the little tubes that they sent them from Forrester. Okay. The 6.5 suite might even be in the original packaging from Forrester. It doesn't even look like he pulled them out of them.
That can help you set your brass, too. Absolutely. Because you use your Sinclair... headspace gauge and then go measure your fired brass and you can see where you're at. That's nice. We've got a lot of guys on tonight. I don't know. Twitch is live too. But I can't get rumble. Whatever. I give up. Alright.
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Chapter 3: How does Mike's recent shooting performance compare to previous matches?
And it doesn't have a spot for the T-handle for pulling it through. So that would have to go over into the strap area. So just put those in there. Otherwise, seems to be good. And that's all the news that isn't from here. The Otis, so... George Grip has a question, Mike. Any recommendations on slug molds for casting? Do you have a rifled barrel is your first question.
That's going to be the first question, is do you have a rifled barrel? No? Then you're kind of limited to Lee slugs. That's it. I mean, you can shoot the Russian slugs, but you're not going to get any accuracy out of them because they're sabotage. And they're designed for rifle barrels.
So you're basically, um, if you can find it, Lyman used to make a Forster slug mold or foster, sorry, not for that's the bit that grinds them flat. So it looks like all Lyman makes now is just the foster slugs. Um, it's a, uh, design. Well, I'm on ballistic products incorporated. So they make a 12 gauge and a 20 gauge. Um, and then they are 90 bucks a pop. They're just a single cavity.
Um, it makes a hollow base obturating slug. So it's not going to be like your standard foster slug. If you cut open, uh, you know, your regular slugs, you go get from Brannicky or, you know, whatever. It's not going to be that style. Somebody went to talk to Paul. It looks like there's a 12 gauge single cavity hollow base mold on M or on eBay.
It looks like smooth side, kind of like your thing, hollow base, 85 bucks. So Wyman used to make one that actually made the honest to God fosters. Um, you've got the other two options in 12 gauge or the lead 12 gauge, seven eighths ounce and one ounce, uh, drive key slugs. That's it. Um, um, if you go to eBay and you type in shotgun slug mold, um,
They're going to show you all sorts of different options there. I don't know if you're going to find that Lyman mold. Maybe. No, that's still the... Yeah, I'm on eBay right now. So, yeah, it looks like I'm only seeing the smooth style Lyman's. But you got to make sure it's not a Sabbath. So, accurate molds, custom 73 caliber, 1275 grain.
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Chapter 4: What issues did Mike encounter with his firearm during the match?
On the Lyman's, it's easier to tell because if it's wrong, it looks like a pellet, like a giant 177 pellet. So, but yeah, it looks like they, I don't even see, I wonder when Lyman stopped making that. I've only seen pictures of them, so I don't, you know, and maybe it was something that somebody made or is this it? No, that's the, so it's gotta be like, it must've been like something that
Somebody just cobbled or something? I don't know. Because all of them I'm seeing, including this one I'm looking at now, which is a Lyman Ideal full kit, is still the smooth. I mean, if you wanted to, you could get a Brenneke, pull it apart, and make a sand mold. But I don't know how well it's going to go. But yeah, that's the only ones I see out there on eBay. If you go to Loads of Bacons...
There's two of them I can find on eBay. There's the rounded nose one, a slight flat base, and then there's the saboted one that has got two driving bands on it, one in front and one Okay. And it's got a hollow base in it, and it's complete flat nose like a Brenneke would be. But, yeah, 72 caliber. But does it have the, so you know how on the Fosters, like the Brenneke's,
It's got the fake rifling on the outside, like the reverse rifling. Yeah. No, it does not have it. It's just got driving bands. It's got a driving band up in front and one on the heel of the bullet, of the slug. Yeah. Let's see if I can... Oh, does that come up? Can I get that to share? Okay. Do you see that, Mike? There you go. That's... Yeah, that's the Sabbath one.
It looks like a 177 pellet, as I was saying. And then... They have this one here. And, again, this is Lyman Ideal, and this is the Foster's type. And if you notice that it's just a rounded slug. Yeah, it's supposed to be a hollow base. Yes. So they have those two available on the Browning Light 12 main channel of the rifle. Okay. All right. I'm going to stop sharing there. Okay. And...
pretty sure that's a smoothbore slug barrel so guns international let's see if that's actually active no yeah i don't think they made a rifled barrel for it i think they were all the slug barrels for those were um smoothbore with uh rifle sights and i don't think the receiver is even close to the same so i don't think you could even if you saw the a5 rifled barrel i don't think you put it on there but i don't know anyway so yeah that's what you're kind of stuck with um
is either the Lyman Foster SUG with a hollow base or the Lee key drives. That's about it. So what you're better off doing, if you're going to do anything, is find yourself some Brenneke Black Magics. Use those. That would be your better option. So anyway, one of the reasons I'm beginning to hate this thing is reset up the tripod. So there's a nut here.
behind this stupid black plastic that has one, two, three, four, five fricking Allens that got to come off. And then there's two nuts over here, which is behind more black plastic. And then there's another nut behind here, which is more behind more black plastic. And I figured this out as I was working on this this evening. So, you know, why would it be easy?
So, so now I understand why Dan wanted to get, and it's metric. Which, of course, because it's China's finest torques. Hmm. Anyway. So what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to get these plates off so I can get at the bolts so I don't have to do it. But if I can't find a... There we go. I found one. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to put up my handy little drill here and go to town.
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Chapter 5: How does the new Otis cleaning kit compare to previous versions?
eBay, you can get a lot of presses there that'll run under $300, except for the 28 gauge and the 410, which are going to be the... You can still find those for pretty reasonable. Yeah. But you can find used 12 gauge ones for $100 or under. Uh, for a six hundreds. Yeah. If you look for them, I have, so I have found 20 or 30, um, six hundreds, 12 gauge for under 50 bucks.
And basically all there is a little dirty. You just got to clean them up a little lubrication and away you go. Sitting in somebody's garage, somebody's shed, and kids and grandkids get ahold of it. No, I don't know what this is. Actually, there's one on the local Facebook. Odor. Why would you not use bolts so that you could tighten the base as it loosens up with time?
With screws, it shouldn't loosen up. Correct. Especially considering they're wood screws. The press weighs enough that it's not going to have a problem with that. But yes, you could use bolts without a problem. You know, a quarter-twenty would work really good. Maybe even five-sixteenths. I don't know if there's enough room for them or not. Okay, so now this is bolted down.
I don't know, did he give me distractions? So I got all this stuff in here. I'm going to leave the handle off for now, so it's not in my way. Yeah. This stuff. This. Yeah, powder measure. Yep. That we can set off to the side. Yes, Ryobi and Milwaukee, same company, same thing. No. No. Oh, they're owned by the same... Ryobi and Milwaukee? No. Ryobi and DeWalt? Yes.
Ryobi, DeWalt, Black & Decker, all the same. Ugh. Milwaukee is not the same. They are both owned by Tektronik Industries TTI. Did I stand corrected then? Yep. Because they used to not be. No, they are... So basically, one company owns all the drill shit. Yeah. So... He gave me a defective box. It says to fall at the bottom. I think I found my cord. It was missing.
That was just the bolts for that plate. Nobody cares. All right. So he says, I only have a single stage and I have a sturdy base for consistency. The stuff you guys have is way out of my league. Don't say that. I mean, really? Yeah. This press runs, well, about $1,100, and you can usually find it on sale someplace. For a 10-station press, that's pretty cheap to go to a 10-station press.
a Lyman, uh, uh, apex. And now you're going to be paying, you know, close to $3,000 for, for it. Um, the, uh, Dylan is only a seven station press and you're looking at, uh, a little over $2,000 for, for, uh, 10 50 or a, uh, 1100. Um, our CBS makes their pro check seven. Um, that's a, uh, Oh, $700 or $800 press, depending upon where you're buying it from.
But it has some serious lack of feeder parts and that kind of stuff. You can buy a bullet feeder from RCBS, but you can't buy a case feeder from RCBS. But there are people out there in the 3D printing world that can make you a case feeder for your... ProChucker in the $300 range. So you're at about $1,000 then for a RCBS ProChucker 7 with a cage feeder.
Bullet feeders, the bullet feeder on the X10, I have to say, especially the seating bullet feeder, the bullet guide and seater is really pretty nice. It is really a nice setup with micro set the bullet pretty easily then it goes to a taper crimp die and you go from there The case feeder is cheap on the X10, and the bullet feeder is cheap compared to others.
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Chapter 6: What are the benefits of using different types of shotgun slug molds?
The Austro-Hungarian Empire did not exist anymore. The Turks weren't on the hook either. The Ottoman Empire didn't exist anymore. So there was only one country that the Allies could go after for reparations, and that was Germany. And those of you who study history figure out really quick, this was a key in setting the stage for World War II. Because they gave no quarter. The European... No.
Gave no quarter in this. Nope. And they held Germany to the fire to make them try and pay this back. Well, the only thing Germany could do was print more money. Well, what happens when you do that? Well, it takes a wheelbarrow to go buy a loaf of bread. Wheelbarrow for Deutschmarks. Yeah. You're talking, you think pesos are undervalued? No.
Pesos would be like the yen compared to Deutschmarks at the time. I mean, you're literally talking billions of dollars being spent for a normal household. Millions for a loaf of bread. Because it literally was worthless. You could use it as toilet paper. It would have been more productive. It bankrupted Germany. It bankrupted the country. It threw... And it wasn't strictly this.
You get the Depression in there that really kind of put the nail in the coffin for Germany. You get 1929... the stock market crash here in the United States, which kind of screwed up the entire world. But that really kind of put the final nail in the coffin of any chance Germany had to recover. And so now you set the stage for someone who has not only somebody to blame, but also a way to fix it.
Excuse me. They eliminated, they eliminated the Deutsche Mark and they went to the Reich Mark. Yep. Okay. So they changed currency. Just boom. That was it. When you have a fiat currency, it's easy. Like the United States, if they really wanted to, they could get rid of the dollar tomorrow. It's a fiat currency. It doesn't really exist.
There's nothing that really backs the dollar, which is why everybody's still pissed, not only about the Federal Reserve, but getting rid of the gold standard. Because it used to be the dollar was based off of a certain amount of gold. And there was the gold still somewhere. But the gold was backing the dollar. Used to have dollar bills that were called silver certificates.
Yeah, my brother took my mom's $5 and spent it on candy. Yeah, and that was good for silver, actual real silver. You could turn it in for silver. Whatever the going rate was. And then the United States in, what, 1932 stopped printing or making gold coins and said that everybody can't own gold anymore. Yeah. That was FDR. Thanks. Yes.
So even though FDR got us through World War II, he was actually a really horrible president. Go look at everything that he did and you'll figure it out real quick. But it's how it's reported, so. Well, that's the beginning of the Democratic Party, as we know it today.
But you guys, I mean, you know, in what, another seven days or so, they're going to be, or six days, they're going to be celebrating. They're going to be celebrating heavily. Yes. Think of 18-year-old kids who got into dad's liquor stash with no repercussion. That's pretty much it. Except they will be at the Marine Corps barracks in Washington.
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