First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Evan & Ruby - He Sent That Text… and Then Got Caught 👀
03 Mar 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Evan is on the phone today for our first date follow up and he's getting ghosted by Ruby. So in a few minutes, we'll call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But first, Evan, how long has it been since you heard from Ruby? It's been about four days. OK, that's too bad. Yeah. Have you hit her up a bunch in that time? I did try a couple of times.
Yeah. I don't want to overdo it, but I reached out and definitely got nothing back. Okay. And you feel like that's weird. Like you feel like four days is a long time to not hear from her. Yeah, we're kind of hitting it off. So it is out of the ordinary. Well, tell us about your date. Well, Ruby and I went to a rooftop bar and, you know, it had the best view of the city. It was her idea, actually.
It was super cool, you know. Can't really beat it for a first date. Just a great place to grab drinks. Shared a charcuterie board and, you know, our conversation was just really...
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Chapter 2: What happened on Evan and Ruby's first date?
I mean, like, yeah, okay. I guess I knew this was coming. Oh, man. Hi.
Chapter 3: Why did Ruby suddenly ghost Evan after their date?
hi uh look you've got it all wrong it's not no no no no evan you are literally in the picture i mean it's not hard to recognize someone when you were just right there you know oh okay yeah it happens but it's not what you think like she's she's someone i've been hooking up with for a while and i was i was gonna tell her it was over because i wanted to focus on you that night and i just
I didn't get to it yet. So you were out with someone else right after your date making out with her? Technically, yeah. Again, you were just with me and then you just go make out with someone else. I mean, I understand people date multiple people, but... It just it felt wrong to me. I swear, I swear I'm done with her. I'm not seeing anyone else. I like you.
I was going to tell her that the next day, but it was like it wasn't like that anymore. You're the one that I want to date. Did you tell her that? I told her. I mean, I wouldn't want to see a picture of the dude that I just went on an amazing date with, like messing around with somebody else. Again, like she said, I get people are dating other people.
But if I don't know, I wouldn't feel good about that either. I just would have too many questions. Yeah. Like, are you just saying that, like, you want to date me or like, did you hook up with her that night? You know, that's just how it felt to me. Did you hook up with her? I mean. Yeah, but it was like just one... It was just like a last round type of thing.
I swear, I told her about you at that point, and that was the last time. You told her after you hooked up? Yeah. You hooked up with her after you told her about me? Like, seriously? No, I told her about you after I hooked up with her. That's not necessarily bad. Evan's at least truthful. Yeah, that's true. Okay, so you hooked up with her after you told her about me? Like, seriously?
No, I hooked up with her and then I told her about you. But that's because things felt so different with you. Like, we've been on one date. It's not like I cheated on you or anything. I was just trying to do the right thing. I mean, it would have been better if you told her before and didn't hook up with her.
Okay, I get that, but I was, you know, I was just kind of desperate and sad I didn't get to see you and, you know, I was just trying to break things off and it didn't go as smoothly as I hoped it would. I mean, if we were to date and you didn't see me, you can't hook up with other people. I'm not trying to do that. I swear. It's kind of tricky because he kind of does have a point.
He is trying to do the right thing. Like, he didn't cheat on anybody and she's out of the picture now. Ruby, would you like to go on a second date with Evan? We'll pay for it. I mean, Evan, are there any other people I need to know about? I mean, yeah. Well, yes. I'm going to text them and let them know I'm not available. Via text. I'm not going to meet up with them. I will show you the text.
What do you think, Ruby? It sounds like you're serious. Yeah. I mean, like, honestly, we did just go on one date and it was like a really, really good date. But I swear to God, Evan, if any of my friends send me more pictures of you out with other women, you're going to wish that I was just ghosting you. It will be way worse. I promise you'll never see that again. I don't want to
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