Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hey man, hi my little fresh turkey sandwich. How are you? Yeah, I'm good. Thank you Today's episode is about a man with schizophrenia who's created a kind of schizophrenia simulator so people that aren't schizophrenic can experience what his world is like and I am interested in schizophrenia simulator. I have not personally had schizophrenia, so I'd be interested.
Is it something that we are positive about? Like this is a good thing that he's doing? Yeah, I think it's a really good thing. It's sort of an insight into a mental health condition that I think a lot of us don't understand.
Chapter 2: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
So I think it's really great. Yeah, well, as we've seen recently, there's a whole bunch of mental health conditions that people don't understand. We were speaking just after John Davidson, the man with Tourette's, accidentally... How do you even say it? He said racial slur at the BAFTA Awards and people are slamming him, which seems like there's a lack of understanding about that.
I think if you don't... It's a funny thing, eh? We're all just meat sacks trapped inside our minds and we can only experience our one brain. And so everyone else is just a locked, unknowable box. And so it's impossible to really empathize with them and to know exactly what they're feeling. Like, for instance, I have no idea what fucked up stuff is happening inside your brain.
ears you know between your ears at any moment and it's such a leap of empathy to sort of see you as a human being and that's just in my personal life and I'm sure you feel the same way and so like I think this is a really great thing that he's doing. Hey, before you go, I had one other question. Often when I call you every fortnight for this podcast, I try and get you to go somewhere quiet.
And last time I called you, you were in some kind of a windstorm. So this time when I texted you to set up this call, I said, you know, let me know in a convenient time today where you'll be somewhere quiet with no massive winds blowing. And you replied immediately, the only wind blowing will be through the empty space between your ears, which I thought was quite confrontational.
And then you followed it up with, can you call me in three minutes time? And I just, I've just been thinking, what did you need those three minutes for? Like to prepare to have a wank? Like why three minutes? Why is that? Why is that what you would think would take three minutes? You're like, what could he be doing in three minutes? Three minutes is a solid speed wank time.
But why three minutes? Like, what was that three minutes? Like, where were you and why did you need three minutes? I just thought that because that would take... I was 9.42 when I replied and 9.45 was a good round number and I quite like starting on a round number, I want you to call it. But no, it's good to know that that three minutes was sort of a rounding situation. Yeah.
As opposed to you needing three minutes to do something. Yeah, well, and the wink, obviously. But that's one minute. Yeah. I'm David Farrier, a New Zealander accidentally marooned in America, and I want to figure out what makes his country tick. Now, there's a guy I walk past most days to get my coffee who mumbles to himself under his breath.
Without thinking, I tend to walk around him a little bit. I veer off course, putting extra distance between us. There's something inside me that sees he's dangerous. He's unhinged and unsafe. I don't understand him. Now, I assume this has something to do with the social code that says we're not really meant to mutter to ourselves in public.
At home, as I pace the house trying to work out an idea, I often talk to myself. But that stops the second I walk out the front door. It also seems that maybe this guy isn't just talking to himself. He's also looking to one side, talking to someone who isn't there. And that's always felt dangerous to me, too.
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Chapter 3: How does Christopher Grant experience the world differently?
And because I'm aware of this thing, I could give myself it. No, I think that's, and I talk a bit about, Chris, this sort of overlap between, because there are forms of like self-talk in your brain and ruminations that do kind of start to spin off, not into schizophrenia, but into this sort of in-between territory where it's an unhealthy kind of internal dialogue that can happen.
Yeah, and not that it has a mind of its own, but it is an internal dialogue. Do you feel like sometimes little Rob inside big Rob, big Rob being you in front of me now, sometimes has a different opinion or you get into a little fight with your internal little guy? No. Or are you mostly synced up? Mostly synced up. Yeah. And I haven't had that thought in a long time.
I think it was more like teenage years. But now it's seeded in your mind yet again. Yeah. It's almost like a weird OCD tick of fear of something, so you keep thinking about it. Totally. I completely know that. And then the fear of, I'm thinking about this so much that maybe this is going to... It's what we talked about in my childhood. I was a big believer in prayer.
And once I realized that I'd be scared, I was going to pray the wrong thing and like God would hear it. And then I'd just be like thinking all these like weird things like kill the janitor would come into my head, which makes me sound crazy. It would pop up because I was like, oh no. And I'd be like, pray again. Don't kill the janitor.
And then because you're thinking about don't kill the janitor, you're just walking around all day saying don't kill the janitor. For the record, I didn't kill a janitor and I didn't want the janitor dead, but that was the worry.
well but yeah your brain knows the worst thing that it can say in a situation yeah and we're gonna get back to the conversation we had recently where um do you control the brain or does the brain control you yeah carl And I will say, most of the time my brain is not going to the worst thing that can be said in a situation. No, no, no.
But you could be in social situations where it's like, don't say this. Don't say this. But when you do that, you're thinking it. Which goes back to what Hayden was talking about, which has been this drama at the BAFTAs recently, where he yelled out a racial slur and there was this debate. Over and over and over again. Yeah, it was loud and it wasn't censored, which was quite crazy. Yeah.
And they censored another speech. Yeah, but there was a certain argument online which was like, no, yeah, sure, this guy had Tourette's, but also he wouldn't have said that word if he wasn't racist. But of course, the point you made earlier before we started the show, when you have Tourette's, your brain is thinking of the worst possible thing that's sitting in there to yell at that point.
I mean, the main mad thing is that they it's one situation in the room, whatever that is. It's another thing for the BBC to just air it. Yeah, well, and I don't think it was the first disruption during the evening. Well, the mad thing is, when you look at, I think, the censorship for the night, what they did decide to censor was someone yelling out about free Palestine.
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