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Football Daily

World Cup: England, Ronaldo & Humble Pie

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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24.803 - 53.747 James Crawford

The Football Daily at the People World Cup 2026 with Rick Edwards and Lloyd Griffith live from L.A.

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56.073 - 74.321 Rick Edwards

Hello, you're listening to the Football Daily with me, Rick Edwards. Oh, yes, and me, Lloyd Griffith. Yes, singular. We're going to be joined by Stephen Warnock very shortly to talk about England's 0-0 draw with Ghana. And Aidy Barber is going to join us to preview Scotland's huge game against Brazil later today. The other scores for you, Croatia beat Panama 1-0.

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74.341 - 99.015 Rick Edwards

That's the other game in England's group. Portugal hammered Uzbekistan 5-0. Yes, he scored a couple. And Colombia beat Dr Congo 1-0. All the scores and highlights are available on the BBC Sport website and app. Now, the England game was disappointing. Yes. But there was one massive highlight for me. So we went to an Irish pub again to go and watch it. That's where we'd watched the last one.

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99.355 - 117.171 Rick Edwards

Good atmosphere, plenty of England fans in there. And we won, so it was a good omen. Exactly. You wore the same shirt? Yes, I did. You wore a different Grimsby shirt. Thank you. And... During the first hydration break, Lloyd and myself both needed to go and relieve ourselves. So Lloyd went in first and I came in afterwards.

117.211 - 139.331 Rick Edwards

Now the setup in the restroom is one urinal and then directly next to the urinal there's a cubicle. And I come in, Lloyd is at the urinal, and I say, oh, I recognize that bottom anyway, or something like that. Something corny. Something like that, yeah. Which HR should ever talk about. That's actually not the thrust of this story. And I wish I hadn't said thrust.

140.853 - 161.456 Rick Edwards

So Lloyd then, well, I mean, I guess the thing to do is probably You pick it up and explain what you think has happened. So I was in the cubicle on the right. No, you're at the urinal. I'm in the urinal on the right, okay? And I hear you do your little joke. And then I was like, well, I finished. And I know you're in the cubicle on the left.

161.476 - 188.038 Rick Edwards

So as a little joke, I'll just basically put my feet underneath the cubicle and put my hands on the top and then go... Rick! And then basically, I did that, and then I just looked to my left, and I saw that you were behind me. I was not in a cubicle. That was another fella. That was another fella. And I just looked at you. Your mouth just dropped, and I was like, oh no! I was in hysterics.

188.018 - 206.842 Rick Edwards

Ran out. I've never seen you move that quickly. You were in your red top. It was like watching The Flash. You looked so terrified and ashamed. You float. I didn't even wash my hands. You didn't wash your hands. I did go to the front of the bar and get the sanitizer to make sure the pans were clean. But it was one of those things where I was like, oh, this will be a bit of fun.

Chapter 2: What were the highlights and low points of England's match against Ghana?

271.415 - 291.313 Lloyd Griffith

But I think what we've seen with a lot of the games is even with the top teams and talking about France, Portugal, they've struggled in the games so far to break down stubborn defences at times. And it's going to take a little bit more patience. It's going to be difficult. I was listening to Wayne Rooney talking the other day and he was talking about how differently...

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Chapter 3: What are the implications of England's draw for their World Cup hopes?

291.547 - 298.783 Lloyd Griffith

the lower nations, if you like to call them, are now coached. They're better, they're well-organised, and I think we're starting to see that.

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298.803 - 314.192 Rick Edwards

Yeah, because although I don't think England were great, you've got to give a lot of credit to Ghana. They set out, did exactly what they wanted to do, which was... sit in and then wait for opportunities to break. And it kind of worked perfectly.

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314.212 - 326.191 Lloyd Griffith

It did work perfectly. It was ideal. I mean, you could arguably say they should have had a penalty towards the end of the game, which would have been the perfect game plan with Esri Konza making that foul or committing a potential penalty.

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326.271 - 345.022 Rick Edwards

I mean, on that, I cannot. I cannot, for the life of me, work out why that hasn't been given. In real time, you're like, ooh. And then when you watch the replays, it's Stonewall. He just sort of launches himself. His feet are in the air. He doesn't get the ball, and he takes out the play.

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Chapter 4: What humorous incident occurred during the podcast recording?

345.202 - 352.89 Rick Edwards

You just think, well, what more do you want? What more do you need? I'd be spitting feathers if I was Ghanaian.

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353.495 - 370.073 Lloyd Griffith

Yeah, it's quite worrying, isn't it, when you've got a referee who... I think you can give the referee a little bit of a pass on that because of perhaps the position of where he is and probably thinks there's a touch on the ball. But when you go to VAR, that's inexcusable. That's the problem.

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370.093 - 395.618 Rick Edwards

I think Carlos Quiroz in his press conference afterwards said, had VAR gone for a coffee, our VAR on a vacation... Had VAR stopped working. He was really, I think, actually, like everyone, just completely bemused by it. I suppose the only, well, initially I thought, oh, maybe it was offside, but I don't think it was. The only other thing I thought was maybe it was a foul on Ezza.

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395.598 - 411.436 Rick Edwards

in the build-up to it, but... It's really weird because a lot of these decisions, there's no explanation for some of them. They go into great detail for some decisions... With really, really clear ones. Yeah, and then for other ones, they just go, well, let's just crack on. Surely we can have a look at that. And they don't, and there's no explanation.

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411.817 - 431.038 Rick Edwards

And I think that's the thing that's so frustrating. People are just left with all these questions unanswered, including, you know, Carlos QuirƔs. Yeah. Why is it so hard? This might be a very basic question, I apologize. Why is it so hard... to play against a low block, even when Thomas Tuchel will have anticipated playing against that low block.

431.204 - 445.424 Lloyd Griffith

Yeah, when you set up a back four and then you've got a holding player in front of it who's just screening that, it's very difficult to play in behind because there's very little space to play those balls over the top. We know Harry Kane doesn't have blistering pace, so he doesn't play that way.

446.145 - 462.749 Lloyd Griffith

And it's an exercise that you do a lot of times in training, day in, day out, where you try and break down a back four, a back five. Now, you can have an overload of seven, eight players, and in a training session for around about 20, 30 minutes, you might not score a goal because you're not getting moved out of position.

463.13 - 483.823 Lloyd Griffith

Now, suddenly, what we used to do in training was we'd say, right, one of the full-backs has got to release himself, he's got to go downfield, and then the opposition team have got an overload of, say, a 5v3 or a 6v3. Now, that's a little bit easier to shift them because there becomes more space. Well, Ghana very, very rarely shifted out that space. I just thought it was a game where...

483.803 - 501.323 Lloyd Griffith

I love Thomas Tuchel. I think he's a brilliant manager. I think he's proactive in the changes that he made. I thought he probably waited 10 minutes too long today. And I thought he could have taken off another midfielder, one of the holder midfielders, whether it was Anderson or Rice. And I thought he could have put on another attacking midfielder in that position.

Chapter 5: How did Ghana's defensive strategy impact England's performance?

874.753 - 896.603 Lloyd Griffith

And I think he's managing him as much as he can. And I think he just thinks, yeah, if he needs to, he's quite happy to change it and put Gahee in. I think when listening to him afterwards, he was talking about the transitions. Obviously, they've got Semenyo in the team, Garner, and he knows Jed Spencer's athletic getting back in great 1v1 situations. My big thing is just...

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896.988 - 920.56 Lloyd Griffith

you lose the balance, and being a former full-back, when you play with a full-back who's got the wrong foot, if you like, so Jed Spence playing with his right foot constantly, the ball that he plays into Anthony Gordon's very predictable, and it's very difficult for Anthony Gordon then to find space and get in a 1v1 situation. I'll go back to... when he picked the squad.

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920.881 - 924.184 Lloyd Griffith

I understood why he took Jed Spence, but I thought he was taking him as a right-back.

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Chapter 6: What insights does Stephen Warnock provide about England's tactics?

924.745 - 943.065 Lloyd Griffith

But obviously, Livramento and him were used as left-back and right-backs. Obviously, Livramento's dropped out the squad. I still can't understand how Lewis Hall hasn't made this squad. I really can't, because you've got that ability. He's great in 1v1 situations. He brings you balance. So then you've got O'Reilly, and it's nothing against Jed Spence. I've said it before.

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943.085 - 950.572 Lloyd Griffith

I think he's brilliant in defensive positions. He's actually decent going forward as well. But I just don't think left-back suits him.

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951.073 - 975.156 Rick Edwards

An interesting feature of this side, actually, you mentioned the kind of relationships that players have, pre-existing relationships at clubs. And this side had 10 different clubs represented. So the only double is Rice and, well, starting line-up was Rice and Madueke. Everyone else playing at different clubs. And you can kind of look at that as good from the point of view of

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975.457 - 987.829 Rick Edwards

where you won't get the kind of clique thing that has plagued England in the past. But then you are maybe missing those special little relationships that have been formed over many years, perhaps.

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988.417 - 1009.904 Lloyd Griffith

Yeah, quite possibly, but I believe Thomas Tuchel is great at integrating players and getting the best out of them. So we're picking the bones out of a performance that was very difficult to play against a team that was very well organised. I did five live yesterday when we had the rain delay in the France game. I know you did. I was listening.

1010.005 - 1011.927 Rick Edwards

It's a lot of time to fill, mate.

1014.033 - 1034.031 Lloyd Griffith

But Julien Laurent was talking about how frustrated he was with watching France, trying to break down the team, the opposition. And I was like, Jules, this is international football. This is the hardest thing that you can do. And you think about the French team, they're from all different clubs. We think of Paris Saint-Germain as being the French champions and European champions.

1034.632 - 1048.771 Lloyd Griffith

They only have a couple of players in that team. And that is where you're at with that. So the relationships between players at the top, top teams is, yeah, it's one of those situations where you've got to try and blend the players, get them used to each other.

1049.131 - 1066.433 Lloyd Griffith

I think Thomas Tuchel's done a brilliant job of that because I think certainly in this game, there was a few moments where we came to life and the interplay was brilliant. Certainly was against Croatia. I think we're just picking the bones out of it purely because we just wanted a little bit more. But I'm still massively optimistic with this manager.

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