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World Cup: England's World Cup Begins

17 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 3.696 Steve Crossman

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6.106 - 33.463 Shannon Maldonado

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34.473 - 59.198 Lily Blumkin

The football day at the People World Cup 2026 with Rick Edwards and Lloyd Griffith live from L.A.

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61.321 - 90.163 Jordan Pickford

It is finally here. For you listening now, it is England Day, the match we've been waiting for for what feels like forever. Before we get into all that, though, today we did a workout class together. So it was a load of very athletic ladies doing a circuit workout, and then us looking like Little and Large or Halen Pace. Which one's which? Well, you tell me. And...

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90.143 - 110.342 Jordan Pickford

that the state of us at the end yeah there's a genuine embarrassment and i have posted up a a picture of us not looking at our best we look like we put a shift in didn't we it we look like we've just been relieved of a hostage situation yes like we look kind of what it felt like it felt like it was i mean it's very different over in l.a It's harder. It's just harder work.

110.362 - 117.541 Jordan Pickford

It is very different over here. And the heat and the weights, I think they're heavier because of the heat. I think they must be.

117.681 - 118.142 Lloyd Griffith

Absolutely.

118.744 - 140.963 Jordan Pickford

We didn't look great, mate. No, we didn't. And you'll thank me for putting up the photo. Also, first little bit of friction I think that we've had so far on this trip. Because I wanted to go for lunch in a place and you took too long in the shower and then putting kind of industrial strength mousse in your hair or whatever it was that you were doing. Just normal mousse.

141.003 - 160.138 Jordan Pickford

I don't know what it was, but we ran out of time and we couldn't go to the place I wanted to go to for lunch. And I'm going to say I was annoyed. And it's okay, but I forgive you. No, this is ridiculous. That's completely true. We'd finished our class, and then we got back to the house. Yes, we made a plan. And then you basically went into your room, okay?

Chapter 2: What are England's chances in the World Cup against Croatia?

231.368 - 248.874 Jordan Pickford

He's doing it like it's a mountain. It was a mountain. It wasn't a mountain. You could barely see over it to see the screen. In my defence, okay, it didn't say sharers. It wasn't from the sharer section. It was from the mains and their big portions over here. You also had a main, but I didn't fat shame you with your eggs and rice.

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248.934 - 267.759 Jordan Pickford

Also, you're having rice at lunchtime, even though it was a breakfast. Anyway, I did say, does anybody want some of these nachos? I won't finish. I said, I probably won't finish these. Does anybody want any nachos? And you went, oh, no, okay, I'm okay, thank you. So I just cracked on, and then, look, it was an exciting game.

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268.139 - 286.363 Jordan Pickford

And I just got two into me nachos, and the next thing was, oh, there's only two left, do you want them? And you and Max were like, no, we're fine, mate. Well, there's none of the nice stuff left. It was literally just two bear chips. Yeah, absolutely. But they were absolutely fantastic. And honestly, I feel... I just think we did this lift lower body workout and we put such a shift in.

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286.603 - 308.555 Jordan Pickford

And then I did a... And then you're just undoing all of that. And I did an upper body workout just shoveling these nachos into my mouth. Honestly, you... I'm being factual. No, no, no, no. This feels like the bike app all over again. How many forks do you want? Just one and a straw. Thank you. Anyway. Well, we've had a great day of football again here. The big players all delivered.

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308.696 - 330.348 Jordan Pickford

France 3, Senegal 1. France looked good. MbappƩ with a couple. Norway beat Iraq 4-1. Haaland with a couple. Austria-Jordan is happening as we're recording now. But we have to start with Lionel Messi, who has looked at what MbappƩ and Haaland did and said... Hold my yerba mate.

331.009 - 345.588 Jordan Pickford

If you're just waking up, at the age of 38, he scored his first World Cup hat-trick in Argentina's 3-0 win against Algeria. The man, Lloyd, is a machine. What's a yerba mate? You know, it's the thing that all the Argentinians drink.

345.608 - 347.911 Lloyd Griffith

Yes, probably. Fantastic.

348.551 - 355.441 Jordan Pickford

I thought that rather than beer, it was a little... No, I liked it. Just in case there was anyone else from Grimsby that didn't know what a Gibraltar is.

355.461 - 355.962 Lloyd Griffith

Understood.

Chapter 3: How did Lionel Messi achieve a historic World Cup hat-trick?

1210.12 - 1231.501 Jordan Pickford

He did speak right back then about how it was his intention to put together the 26 players that made the best team and the best squad and who would not necessarily be the best 26 players who were available to him. And, you know, he repeated that kind of thing on the day that he named his England squad. And that's what he's got.

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1231.661 - 1244.234 Jordan Pickford

He has made his bed here with the 26 that he has picked and he will be judged on how they perform here. Is there also a sense that Gerald Kwanzaa can come across and play at right-back?

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1244.634 - 1263.457 Paul Robinson

Well, yeah. I mean, you look at his start in XI, it's almost picking itself, isn't it? Rhys James is going to play at right-back. Nico O'Reilly will play at left-back. And then I think he's just looking at other options, what he's got that can be versatile. And John's absolutely right. He's always said that the group is more important than an individual. And we go back to a game that we covered.

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1263.477 - 1279.097 Paul Robinson

Was it Serbia at the start of this season when we were there and England won five? And you look at the way that they played there, they had a lot of the big names missing in that game. And I think from that point on, Tuchel made a real point of saying after the game, he said, I've been telling you this for a while. I've been telling you this is coming. This has been happening in training.

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1279.117 - 1291.393 Paul Robinson

I've got a faith in this group of players. That performance I know has been coming. And then from there, they went on to win eight out of eight qualifiers and not concede a goal. So listen, you can't argue with the decisions that he's making until they go wrong.

1291.373 - 1312.217 Jordan Pickford

Is there anything in the idea that he wants to bring in a player who isn't going to, for want of a better term of phrase, kick off if they don't get on the field of play? If you bring in someone like Trent and then he doesn't get a single minute, is that going to create an atmosphere in a way that Trevor Chalabar coming in maybe won't?

1312.535 - 1329.563 Paul Robinson

Absolutely, absolutely. And I think you can look at that and you can encapsulate that in the way that he's treated Jude Bellingham this season. He left him out of the March friendlies, not necessarily made him an automatic starter. Jude Bellingham knows that now he's got to fight for his shirt. He's got to fight for his place, not just in the squad, but in the team.

1329.944 - 1344.603 Paul Robinson

And I think that grounding that he gave Jude Bellingham I think he's been quite clever, Thomas Tuchel, because he knows that he needs a player of Jude Bellingham's quality. But he needs Jude Bellingham at his best, both on and off the field. And I think he left him out of the squad at times this season. He's left him out of the side at times this season.

1345.164 - 1356.578 Paul Robinson

At times where it wasn't overly important, he knew that the team would get the result it needed. And he's proved to Jude Bellingham that England don't need Jude Bellingham, but England are better with Jude Bellingham at his best, if that makes sense.

Chapter 4: What were the highlights of France's match against Senegal?

2207.573 - 2215.806 Julien Laurens

The second goal, the Barcola one, as you mentioned, Rick, they get the ball back on the edge of their box, France. It's three passes, 12 seconds, and they're scoring on the other end.

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2215.786 - 2239.262 Julien Laurens

because that transition goes so quick from Rabiot especially to then Barcola with his pace and that is lethal and I don't know if you want to defend with a lower block or LissƩ can unlock you like he does on the first goal if you want to because you have to go and attack a bit more and play a slightly higher defensive line then they can unlock you and beat you that way and then the third goal is just genius from Mbappe from 25 yards or whatever

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2239.242 - 2256.812 Julien Laurens

But you're right, when you can bring on Schalke and Barcola, and you've got even somebody like Thuram that can come on, even Mateta, if you really want something completely different, that kind of richness that you have attacking-wise, I think Spain is the best team collectively, probably the way they move the ball.

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2256.832 - 2264.946 Julien Laurens

I think Portugal probably have overall the best squad in terms of depth in every position. But I think attacking-wise, this French team is the best one.

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2264.926 - 2275.063 Jordan Pickford

Yeah, because as you say, they can kind of deal with anything that's in front of them. They can score lots of different types of goal and they'll find solutions.

2275.624 - 2290.746 Julien Laurens

Yeah, and I think this is the beauty of it. And we saw that today in the second half. First half, OK, forget about it completely. And I do think the first half is a good warning sign in a way. So it's a good reminder for us. French people who are all, as you know, very arrogant and can take things for granted very easily.

2290.806 - 2306.54 Julien Laurens

You can't take anything for granted in this World Cup or any World Cup, but it's a good reminder of that. And I think the second half, they show what they can do. And if they play like that for the whole 90 minutes or even 70 minutes, good luck to everybody, anyone who wants to beat them. But you're right, this ability that they have.

2307.141 - 2323.773 Julien Laurens

And it's simply because the profile of those players that we mentioned is just different. So, and Ulysses is a different player to Schalke. then to Barcola, then to Dembele, then to Douay, who's a bit of a mix of everybody. Mateta is a different profile, Thuram is a different profile, Akliush, even if you want to go down that line.

2324.334 - 2333.57 Julien Laurens

But I think those players bring you all different abilities and qualities so much that you can probably face anything and be confident that you can find a way through.

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