For The Love Of Rugby
Episodes
R360: Does rugby really need a revolution?
05 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole are back in the For The Love Of Rugby studio to take you inside Leicester Tigers camp as they prepare for their Premiership pl...
Leicester’s Last Dance and the Ultimate Lions Tourists
01 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Who is the Michael Jordan of the Leicester Tigers Last Dance season? Ben Youngs and Dan Cole give the inside story on an emotional day at Welford Road...
Inside The Most Brutal Modern Lions Series: 2009 vs South Africa
28 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In 2009 Sir Ian McGeechan came back to save the Lions, four year after their disastrous tour of New Zealand. He initially left Tom Croft out of his sq...
Dan Cole Retires: Celebrating the career of an England rugby legend
27 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
After 118 caps for England, two British & Irish Lions tours and over 340 appearances for his boyhood club Leicester Tigers, Dan Cole has decided that ...
Bordeaux & Bath are Champions of Europe! | What next for Saints?
25 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Bordeaux Bègles are Champions of Europe after defeating Northampton Saints in the 2025 Investec Champions Cup Final. Ben Youngs and Dan Cole have gat...
Sam Underhill: The Art of the Tackle and on for the Treble?
21 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Part-time guitarist and full-time tackle monster Sam Underhill joins the show to preview Bath Rugby’s Challenge Cup Final against Lyon on Friday. ...
Rooming with Pollock, Lions forfeits and Alex Mitchell’s pod debut
18 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Geoff Parling is the new Leicester head coach, Danny Care is retiring and Northampton are trying to win the Investec Champions Cup. Saints, England an...
Scrum 9s: a new rugby format devised & hosted by Dan Cole
14 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole is joined by Squidge Rugby to answer your questions! How did Robbie become the world's biggest rugby YouTuber? Do players use stats in their ...
Genia v Youngs: Enemies Reuinted, and why Australia can beat the Lions
11 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Will Genia and Ben Youngs went head to head for England, Australia and the Lions for a decade. In this special episode they tell each other how they p...
Lions Squad Special ft. Itoje, Farrell, Genge, Chessum, Daly & Squidge Rugby
09 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The British & Irish Lions squad to face Australia has been announced and Ben Youngs and Dan Cole are here with the ultimate guide to the team. In this...
Live with the Lions
07 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's the most anticipated day in the rugby calendar as Andy Farrell names his British & Irish Lions squad to tour Australia this summer and former Lio...
Saints Shock Leinster | Europe Is Great Again
04 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Northampton Saints deliver one of the great European performances to defeat Investec Champions Cup favourites Leinster in Dublin and reach the final. ...
The Final Lions Showdown
30 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
With the British & Irish Lions squad announcement merely a week away, Ben Youngs and Dan Cole assemble in the For The Love Of Rugby studio to preview ...
The One Where England Win The Grand Slam | Women's Six Nations FINAL Round Review
28 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Maud Muir, Sadia Kabeya and Shaunagh Brown are reunited this week to review the final weekend of the Women's Six Nations and unpack their one point th...
Why Big Bums Win Scrums (ft. Julián Montoya)
27 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Leicester Tigers & Argentina captain Julián Montoya crashes the podcast this week as Ben Youngs and Dan Cole reflect on life on the road, the fallout...
The Lions Draft | Youngs v Cole v Squidge v Watson
23 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs, Dan Cole, Anthony Watson and Squidge Rugby pick their 2025 Lions squads (NFL Draft-style) live on stage at the Clapham Grand in London. B...
Will England win a Grand Slam? | Women's Six Nations, Round Four Review
22 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Maud Muir and Shaunaugh Brown look ahead to England’s grand slam game against France at Allianz Stadium this weekend. Get tickets to our live sho...
Ben Youngs Retires: Celebrating the career of England's most-capped man
22 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
After 127 caps for England and 332 appearances for his boyhood club Leicester Tigers, Ben Youngs has decided that the time is right to hang up his boo...
A message from Ben
20 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
After weeks of hints and speculation, Dan Cole attempts to uncover the truth about Ben Youngs's next move. 📋 Have your say in our FTLOR survey:...
French Life with Jonathan Joseph | Beaches, Boeuf & Becoming a Coach
16 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
England rugby legend Jonathan Joseph joins Anthony Watson and Ben Youngs on the For The Love Of Rugby podcast to reveal all about life playing in Fran...
Half Times, Hot Dogs and Zoe NASA Harrison | Women's Six Nations Round 3 Review
15 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Maud Muir is player of the match again, just 24 hours after eating a three-course meal that involved sausage and crêpes. She’s joined by Red Roses ...
Limoncello with the Lions | New Zealand 2017 Tour Stories
13 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Anthony Watson and Dan Cole join Ben Youngs to relive the 2017 British & Irish Lions Tour of New Zealand. The drawn series may have been one of the ...
Why do English rugby teams struggle in Europe?
09 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Fresh from a tough trip to Glasgow Warriors, Leicester Tigers' very own Dan Cole and Ben Youngs reassemble in the virtual For The Love Of Rugby studio...
John Mitchell: Rugby Coaching Masterclass | From All Blacks to England
06 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Red Roses Head Coach John Mitchell joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole in the For The Love Of Rugby studio for a fascinating deep dive into his intrepid coa...
Do we have beef with other rugby podcasts? | Ben & Dan answer your questions!
02 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole return to the For The Love Of Rugby studio to answer your questions. Will Coley ever play for the Barbarians? Who are our dre...
Are Fun Facts, Facts? | Women’s Six Nations, Round Two Review
01 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Maud Muir, Sadia Kabeya and Shaunaugh Brown are back to review the second round of Six Nations matches.This week, the girls have been on a journey of ...
The Modern Day Winger | Anthony Watson’s Top 10
30 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Anthony Watson, Ben Youngs and Dan Cole are in studio for a special episode on the evolution of the modern day winger. Which players are under-appreci...
Lions Coaches Announced | Ben Youngs to Racing 92?
27 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Get tickets to our live shows: https://rb.gy/edowu9 Andy Farrell has named his British and Irish Lions coaching team and so Ben Youngs and Dan Cole a...
Rusting The Cobwebs Out | Women’s Six Nations, Round One Review
26 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Maud Muir, Sadia Kabeya and Shaunagh Brown are back from York to review the first week of the Women’s Six Nations as England extend their winning ru...
The British & Irish Lions Selection Meeting | Naming our XV
24 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
No more messing around. Anthony Watson, Ben Youngs & Dan Cole gather in the For The Love Of Rugby studio with the daunting task of naming their Britis...
Anthony Watson meets Ellie Kildunne: The Best Player in the World
21 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole have sent Anthony Watson to Sage HQ to meet Women’s World Player of the Year, Ellie Kildunne. The pair chat about home Worl...
Please Sir, Can I Have Some Maud? | Women's Six Nations Preview
19 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
For The Love Of Rugby, with women. Join our brand new hosts, Maud Muir, Sadia Kabeya and Shaunagh Brown as they preview the 2025 Women’s Six Nations...
The Big 2025 Men's Six Nations Review
17 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
France claim the title, England thrash Wales, and Ireland are lucky to beat Italy. An eventful Super Saturday brings the curtain down on another yea...
This could be the greatest day of Six Nations rugby ever...
14 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Super Saturday is finally here. With three sides still in contention, Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson analyse how the game Ahead of this weekend's Sup...
For The Love Of Cardiff: Stolen specs, zombie fans and goat poo
12 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Is the Principality Stadium one of the best places to play rugby in the world? Do Welsh supporters really hate the English? And why the hell is there ...
France blow the Six Nations wide open & England unleash their attack | Round 4 Review
10 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Six Nations is just brilliant isn't it? Dan Cole and Ben Youngs debrief a weekend of rugby that began with France blowing the championship wide op...
Ireland v France: Six Nations Decider? | Round 4 Preview
07 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Anthony Watson and Ben Youngs bring you the ultimate preview to Round 4 of the Men's Six Nations. In this podcast, you'll discover why Ireland and Fr...
Ollie Lawrence | Maté Marcus & Gentleman's Agreements with Russell
05 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
England and Bath centre Ollie Lawrence joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole on the For The Love Of Rugby podcast from inside England's Men's Six Nations camp...
Picking Our Lions Squad | Who’s on the plane already?
03 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole and Ben Youngs embark on an incredibly difficult task that they've only got themselves to blame for: they're picking their 41-man squad for t...
Explaining Six Nations tactics you haven't noticed | Squidge Rugby Special
26 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
YouTuber Squidge Rugby joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole in the For The Love Of Rugby studio with his tactical notebook to explain trends of the Six Natio...
England win the Calcutta Cup! Or did Scotland lose it? | Six Nations Round 3 Review
24 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole clash over a dramatic Calcutta Cup: England win, but did Scotland throw it away? Elsewhere, we give Wales their flowers for a...
Can England finally reclaim the Calcutta Cup? | Six Nations Round 3 Preview
21 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson preview Round 3 of the Men's Six Nations as Wales host Ireland, England and Scotland vye for the Calcutta Cup and France...
SOS: Save Our Scrums
19 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole has heard about the USA's plan for scrums and is livid. Meanwhile, Ben Youngs tries to calm him down in an attempt to answer your Six Nation...
Inside England's Six Nations camp with Ollie Chessum
17 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole and Ben Youngs are joined by special correspondent Ollie Chessum from inside England Rugby's Six Nations camp. We'll take you inside what wa...
Who is England’s biggest rival? | Six Nations Q&A
14 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole are in the For The Love Of Rugby virtual studio to answer your questions! Can we make a Six Nations Bomb Squad to rival the S...
Gatland Gone | Emergency Squidgecast as Wales change coach during Six Nations
12 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Squidge Rugby and Ben Youngs assemble an emergency podcast on another dramatic day for Welsh rugby. Warren Gatland is no longer head coach following t...
England win at the death & can anyone stop Ireland? | Six Nations Round 2 Review
10 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Another mega weekend of Men's Six Nations rugby action comes to a close. Ben Youngs and Dan Cole gather in the virtual For The Love Of Rugby studio to...
The Best Weekend of the Six Nations
07 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson look ahead to possibly the best weekend of Six Nations rugby imaginable as Wales travel to Rome, England host France, an...
Accusations of bias! Are we too close to England? | Six Nations Q&A
05 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Are Ben and Dan being too nice about England’s performance in Dublin? Why are rugby teams named so early in the week? And why does Coley hate winger...
England promising but Ireland show class, hat-trick Huw saves Scotland & France cruise past brave Wales | Six Nations Round 1 Review
02 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole and Ben Youngs are in the virtual For The Love Of Rugby studio to review an enthralling opening weekend of Men's Six Nations rugby. And, most...
England to target Predergast, Scottish Slam rests on Russell, and do Wales have any hope? | Six Nations Round 1 Preview
31 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson gather in the virtual For The Love Of Rugby studio on the eve of the Men's Six Nations to look forward to a mouthwaterin...
For The Love Of Dublin: Meteorology, greenhouses and Coley's 28" neck
29 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole have been to Dublin more than your average city-breaker. They've also played more international rugby, driven through Dublin b...
The Big Fat Quiz of the Six Nations
27 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan "The Beast" Cole hosts Squidge Rugby, Max Brown, Anthony Watson, and Ben Youngs in the greatest Six Nations quiz of all time. 📺 Watch For The ...
For The Love Of Ilona Maher: The World’s Biggest Rugby Star
23 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The world’s biggest rugby star Ilona Maher joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole in the For The Love Of Rugby studio. The Olympic medalist reveals how she ...
The Big Six Nations Preview | With Conor Murray, Liam Williams and Squidge Rugby
20 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs, Dan Cole and Anthony Watson bring you their ultimate guide to the 2025 Six Nations Championship. Is it now or never for Scotland? Fi...
Anthony Watson Retires From Rugby | My Career In My Words
17 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
One of England's greatest-ever wingers Anthony Watson joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole to announce his retirement from rugby. A five Test capped British...
Has Coley played his last game for England? | Six Nations squad reaction
16 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole joins Ben Youngs to react to the news of his omission from Steve Borthwick's England Rugby squad for the 2025 Men's Six Nations. The pair an...
Joe Marler: The Real Reason Why I Retired
13 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Marler drops by the For The Love Of Rugby studio to tell Ben Youngs and Dan Cole about life after retiring as an England rugby player. We learn a...
The Oldest Swinger In Leicester
09 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Fresh from their back-to-back last-minute tries for Leicester Tigers, Dan Cole & Ben Youngs battle flood and snow to reconvene and relive some vintage...
Inside The England Gym | For The Love Of Fitness
06 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Who’s the strongest? Who’s the fastest? And who lets genetics do all the work? Strength and conditioning guru Tom Tombleson joins Ben Youngs and D...
The Youngs Manifesto
02 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Check out our new partners Thriva and get 20% off your first blood test using the code LOVEOFRUGBY. LINK: thriva.co Dan Cole and Ben Youngs start pot...
For The Love Of 2024 (Part Two)
30 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole and Ben Youngs review their first year in podcasting, which includes splitting the country in two, recording in New Zealand and Japan and our...
For The Love Of 2024 (Part One)
23 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole and Ben Youngs review their first year in podcasting, but probably too soon after they come home from the supermarket at Christmas. In this e...
Coley's Christmas Caps Game
19 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Get tickets for our live shows: https://rb.gy/edowu9 Dan Cole and Ben Youngs play Christmas games that could light up your dinner table this festive ...
Bonus Bill And The Grassroots Saviour
16 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What do rugby players do at Christmas? Ben Youngs and Dan Cole bring you the first of two Christmas episodes this festive season. They crack open the ...
The Highway Cole
12 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
It’s been a while since Dan Cole ranted about traffic or his fellow motorists, but he’s back with a bang in this episode. Ben Youngs goes through ...
For The Love Of Rucks | The History Of The Breakdown
09 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Get tickets for our live shows: https://rb.gy/edowu9 In this episode, Dan Cole and Ben Youngs deliver a short history of the breakdown, from chaos to...
Joe Marler Answers Your Questions | Jelly Babies And Fighting Faf
05 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Nominate your local rugby club here: https://forms.gle/9PrSEohCYiLB4D9R6 In this episode, Joe Marler returns to the FTLOR studio to answer your quest...
Fish Finger Beds And Corporate Crufts | Life On The Road
02 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole take their podcast kit to Manchester to document a weekend as Premiership rugby players. They room together, share maltesers a...
Splitting England In Two
28 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Get tickets for our live shows: https://fkpscorpioent.com/en/events/for-the-love-of-rugby-presents-draft-night After splitting England in two, Ben Yo...
England Finally Win | Can they play like Scotland?
25 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson review England’s final game of the Autumn Nations Series as they finally get a win by beating Japan at Twickenham. Sco...
Our Guide To Australia | Picking The Combined Wallaby-Lions XV
21 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is brought to you by SportsBreaks - an Official sub-agent of the Lions Tour. They have a range of packages available which all include of...
The KOKO Collab: Wallabies On Tour | From Nando's To Monaco
20 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs hangs out with Adam Ashley-Cooper, Drew Mitchell, Matt Giteau and The Prof in the first week of their UK tour. The lads are already losing ...
Coley Gets Grilled
19 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole is back from inside the England camp to answer Ben's probing questions on why England lost again at Twickenham. And he's coming out firing. ...
England Lose Again | South Africa Too Good | What Next?
18 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Is it a crisis? England have lost five games in a row as South Africa become the latest team to win at Twickenham this Autumn. Ben Youngs and Anthony ...
Can England beat the Boks?
14 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Do Test matches get any tougher than this? Boks Office legend Shimmie (Hanyani Shimange) and World Cup winning captain John Smit join Ben Youngs in Lo...
In Defence Of The Blitz | Coley In Camp
12 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Get tickets for our live shows: https://fkpscorpioent.com/en/events/for-the-love-of-rugby-presents-draft-night Dan Cole speaks to Ben Youngs from ins...
Humble Pie Anyone? | Australia beat England in thriller
11 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs was very wrong. Anthony Watson helps him review round two of the Autumn Nations Series, and eat an enormous slice of humble pie as England ...
Eddie Jones and his “Untouchables”
08 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
England are due a win, and Australia are next up at the stadium formerly known as Twickenham. Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson preview a huge round in th...
The Top 10 Wingers In The World Right Now
06 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs ranks his top wingers in the world, and has Springbok legend Bryan Habana to back up his selections. Is there anyone better than Cheslin...
Coley In Camp: Farewell Marler and rooming with G-Ford
05 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole is podcasting from a very hot room in England camp as he joins Ben in his virtual studio. Coley gives us an insight into what was said after ...
England lose again to New Zealand | Rockstar Sititi | Darcy's footwork and the ultimate player
04 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Are England getting closer? Was this their big chance? Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson break down New Zealand’s dramatic win at Twickenham, which saw ...
Barrett starts at 10 | Can England overpower the All Blacks?
01 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Anthony Watson react to the news that Beauden Barrett is back at outside-half for New Zealand at Twickenham on Saturday. They ponder wh...
England v New Zealand | Spencer starts, Manu memories and the 20 minute red card
30 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole takes a break from England camp to speak to Ben Youngs about playing New Zealand on Saturday. Ben Spencer starts at scrum-half, there’s pot...
The Big Autumn Preview | Handre Pollard returns
28 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Cole, Ben Youngs and Handre Pollard look ahead to the Autumn Nations Series, with two of them set to play international rugby and one of them gear...
Firkin Hell! Mysterious gatecrasher hijacks our Q&A episode
24 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Get your tickets for our live shows: https://fkpscorpioent.com/en/events/for-the-love-of-rugby-presents-draft-night Our top secret location has been ...
The Real George Martin | World Exclusive
21 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Who is George Martin? What does he stand for? What defines him as a man? England’s second row enforcer is known for his blue scrum cap and superb b...
The England Strategy | What is the masterplan?
17 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What is the strategy at the very top of English rugby? Conor O’Shea is Executive Director of Performance Rugby at the RFU, but what does that mean? ...
For The Love Of Scrums | Joe Marler Returns
14 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Marler, Dan Cole and Ben Youngs deliver the definitive guide to scrummaging. How does a collapsed scrum feel? What are the dark arts? And how plas...
How will the Lions play? | Squidge Rugby Special
10 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs, Dan Cole and Squidge Rugby pick their all-star coaching line-up for next year’s British and Irish Lions tour to Australia. They try and ...
Saints Swagger and Mastering the Blitz | For The Love Of Tommy Freeman
07 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
England and Northampton Saints winger Tommy Freeman joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole in the studio. He opens up about the relationships between the young...
If Coley was a dog...
03 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Get tickets to our first ever live show: https://fkpscorpioent.com/en/events/for-the-love-of-rugby-presents-draft-night In this episode, Ben Youngs a...
Whose Try Is It Anyway?
30 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Get tickets to our first ever live show: https://fkpscorpioent.com/en/events/for-the-love-of-rugby-presents-draft-night In this episode, Ben Youngs a...
For The Love Of Rugby LIVE | All Tickets Now On Sale
27 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Here’s the link you need: https://fkpscorpioent.com/en/events/for-the-love-of-rugby-presents-draft-night Presale is over. General sale has started,...
For The Love Of Cheika | The Laughter and the Axe
25 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The new Leicester Tigers coach Michael Cheika joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole to tell them what he expects from his players this season. It’s a leader...
Cheika's impact subs and their soggy pants
23 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole are off the bench and back from Exeter after winning their opening game of the season. Michael Cheika has a winning start, the...
Hey Daggee! How many English Lions will there be?
19 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs shoots back at All Blacks legend Israel Dagg, Dan Cole doesn’t like the idea of a British and Irish league and the FTLOR listeners have s...
For The Love Of Martin Johnson | Lions, leadership and the NFL
16 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
It’s a Lions year, and Dan Cole and Ben Youngs have invited two-time captain Martin Johnson into the studio. He talks 1997’s Living With Lions, hi...
Half-backs and half times | George Ford on the perfect 9-10 combination
12 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What's the secret to a successful half-back combination? George Ford joins Ben Youngs and Dan Cole to chat telepathic relationships, how you design a ...
How bad are Australia?
08 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ben Youngs and Dan Cole review Australia’s record defeat to Argentina and ask if they’re good enough to play the Lions next summer? There’s anot...