F-Stop Collaborate and Listen

171: William Neill - Reflecting on 40 Years of Landscape Photography

29 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 171 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features a photographer who probably does not need much i...

170: Joseph Roybal - Harnessing the Power of Mentorship and Relationships in Landscape Photography

22 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 170 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features a photographer living in Denver Colorado.  J...

169: Margaret Soraya - The Power of Solitude in Landscape Photography

15 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 169 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features a landscape photographer living in the highlands...

168: Manuel Palacios - The Relationship Between Photographic Art and Science

08 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 168 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a landscape photographer and scientist hailing fro...

167: Todd Caudle - A Passion for Colorado Through Landscape Photography

01 Jul 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 167 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features a photographer I have been following for many, m...

166: Ethan Deshaies - Defining What Makes a Good Photograph

24 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 166 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features an "up-and-comer" named Ethan Deshaies. Ethan is ...

165: Epic Astro-landscape Photography Panel Discussion from Out of Chicago LIVE!

17 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 165 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode comes to you from the Out of Chicago LIVE event that I took...

164: John Barclay - Discovering the Contemplative Style of Landscape Photography

10 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 164 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a landscape photographer whom I have admired for a...

163: Nick Carver - Soul-Searching for Personally Meaningful Photographs

03 Jun 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 163 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a landscape and architecture photographer living i...

162: Drew Armstrong - All About Drone Photography!

27 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 162 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features a photographer hailing from Salt Lake City, Utah...

161: Christian Fletcher - Creating Original Landscape Photography in Western Australia

20 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 161 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week features an incredible landscape photographer hailing from Western Au...

160: Women in Landscape Photography - A Panel Discussion

13 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 160 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week features a very special panel conversation with some amazing landscap...

159: Brooks Jensen - Creating Personally Meaningful Landscape Photography

06 May 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 159 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's amazing guest is none other than Brooks Jensen, someone I have a...

158: Toni Toreno - Photography Business After COVID-19

29 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 158 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's amazing guest is Toni Toreno, the founder of the PNW Photo Summit ...

157: Jon Whitaker - Music vs. Landscape Photography: Compare and Contrast

22 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to episode 157 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  I am sure you noticed some different intro music this week. That is because i...

156: Sarah Lyndsay - How to Become an Instagram Sensation

15 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 156 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week, I had a fantastic conversation with Sarah Lyndsay. Sarah Lyndsay is...

155: Clay Bolt - Using Photography as a Tool for Communication

08 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 155 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features one of the most inspirational photographers of our...

154: COVID-19 Panel Discussion - How Landscape Photographers Can Respond

01 Apr 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to a special episode of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week we have assembled a fabulous panel of full-time professional ...

153: Ugo Cei - Travel Photography / Coronavirus / Journey into Film

25 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 153 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features an Italian photographer who produces two podcasts,...

152: Scott Walton - Finding an Audience for your Photography

18 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 152 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. Be sure to check out the full liner notes for more info. This week's episode fe...

151: J Henry Fair - Winner of our Conservation Award

11 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 151 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.    This week's episode features the winner of our inaugural Landscape Photogr...

150: Brenda Tharp - Expressive Nature Photography

04 Mar 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 150 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a fantastic landscape photographer from Santa Rosa...

149: Alex Burke - Large Format Film Landscape Photography

26 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 149 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a fellow Coloradoan and Large-format film landscap...

148: Live from the Out of Yosemite Conference

19 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 148 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode was recorded live at Out of Yosemite. I was lucky to be i...

147: Nikki Rausch - How to Improve your Sales in Photography

12 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 147 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a sales coach known as "The Sales Maven" - Nikki...

146: Toby Harriman - Aerial Storytelling / Myanmar / Labels for Artists

05 Feb 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 146 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features an incredible aerial and commercial photographer...

145: Michael Strickland - Large Format Film Photography of the Great Plains

29 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 145 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.    This week's episode features a large and medium format film photographer f...

144: Jerry Greer - Book Publishing and Burnout in Landscape Photography

22 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 144 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  Heads-up! Stay tuned to the end of the show to hear who won our inaugural La...

143: Royce Bair - NightScape Photography

15 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 143 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a photographer that probably needs no introduction...

142: A Panel Discussion on Landscape Photography Education And Creativity

08 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 142 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode is a special one! I assembled a cadre of some of the most w...

141: Luka Esenko - Slovenia & Responsible Photo Location Sharing on PhotoHound

01 Jan 2020

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 141 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a landscape photographer and software developer fr...

Jonathan Tilley - Personal Branding for Landscape Photographers

24 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 140 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a "personal brand strategist" - Jonathan Tilley. ...

Jeff Bartlett - Adventure Photography in the Canadian Rockies

18 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 139 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features an adventure and landscape photographer living in ...

Maria Grace - Search Engine Optimization for Landscape Photography

11 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 138 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a former photographer turned SEO and Marketing exp...

Paul Reiffer - Phase One, Instawrecking, and Landscape Photography Icons

04 Dec 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 137 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a landscape photographer from the United Kingdom, ...

Carl van den Boom - Winter Landscape Photography

27 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 136 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a photographer who created a niche product designe...

Mandy Lea - The Truth Behind Travel Photography

20 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 135 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a photographer who has been travelling North Amer...

Michael Frye - In the Footsteps of Ansel Adams and the Great Masters

13 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 134 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a nature and landscape photographer from Mariposa,...

Dylan Fox - Western Australia Landscape Photography

06 Nov 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 133 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a nature and landscape photographer from Western A...

Mahesh Thapa - Balancing photography and life as a physician

30 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 132 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a nature and landscape photographer living in Seat...

Brenda Petrella - Vermont and Outdoor Photography School

23 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 131 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. For the full liner notes, visit my website. This week's episode features a natu...

Aaron Nace - Photography Education and Phlearn.com

16 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 130 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features the founder of one of the world's most premiere p...

Dan Hawk - Commercial Photography as a Landscape Photographer

09 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 129 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features a photographer who has taken his passion for ...

Franka Gabler - Unique Yosemite Landscape Photography

02 Oct 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 128 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a photographer known for her exceptional work in t...

Ian Plant - Visual Flow in Landscape Photography

25 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 127 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features one of my favorite photographers and photography p...

Alister Benn - Expressive Landscape Photography

18 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 126 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features one of my favorite photographers hailing from Sco...

Rachel Jones Ross - Canadian Night Photography

11 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 125 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a fantastic photographer hailing from the Rocky Mo...

Tim Parkin - OnLandscape Magazine

04 Sep 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 124 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a large format and digital photographer living in ...

Christian Heeb - International Travel Photographer Extraordinaire

28 Aug 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 123 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a landscape and travel photographer from Switzerla...

Wayne Suggs - Photographing the Desert Mountains of New Mexico

21 Aug 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 122 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a photographer living in Las Cruces, New Mexico, ...

Travis Andersen - Ski photography in Bozeman, Montana

14 Aug 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 121 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a photographer living in Bozeman, Montana, Travis...

Paul Marcellini - Landscape Photography in the Florida Everglades

07 Aug 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 120 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's episode features an incredible landscape photographer from Florid...

Weihao Pan - Landscape Photography in China and Tibet

31 Jul 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 119 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features our first landscape photographer from China - Wei...

Taylor Gray - Landscape Photography as a College Student

24 Jul 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 118 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's episode features a younger landscape photographer who is absolutely...

David Cobb - Photographing Japanese Gardens and Landscape Photography on through-hikes

17 Jul 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 117 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week features an absolute legend in the landscape photography business - ...

Aaron Reed & Colby Brown - Marketing and Business Strategies for Landscape Photography

10 Jul 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 116 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week features two great photographers - Aaron Reed and Colby Brown. Aar...

Brandi Mowles - Facebook and Instagram Marketing for Photographers

03 Jul 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 115 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast.  This week's guest is Brandi Mowles. Brandi is a Facebook and Instagram Ad...

David Hunter - Craters of the Moon National Monument

26 Jun 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 114 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's guest is California-based Landscape Photographer David Hunter.  D...

Nick Selway - Photographing Waves and Lava

19 Jun 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 113 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's guest is Colorado-based Landscape Photographer Nick Selway.  Nick...

Justin Majeczky - Photographing Burning Man

12 Jun 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 112 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's guest is Landscape Photographer and Videographer, Justin Majeczky....

Ole Henrik Skjelstad - Photographing the beauty of Norway

05 Jun 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 111 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's guest is Norwegian Landscape Photographer, Ole Henrik Skjelstad. ...

Brian Rueb - Defining Professional Landscape Photography

29 May 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 110 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's guest is Landscape Photographer, Brian Rueb.  Just a warning - th...

Albert Dros - Landscape Photography in the Netherlands and Kyrgyzstan

22 May 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 109 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. This week's guest is the amazing Dutch Landscape Photographer, Albert Dros. Al...

Shane McDermott on Constant Creative Flow and Landscape Photography

15 May 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 108 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast. I'm really excited to present this episode to you - I feel like it is so differ...

"Public Lands Hate You" - Shaming and Policing Instagram - does it work?

08 May 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 107 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with the person behind the popular Instagram account "Public Lands Hate You!"  O...

Max Foster - 15 Months of RV Life & Landscape Photography

01 May 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 106 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Max Foster!  Max Foster is a fantastic travel and landscape photographer ba...

Isabella Tabacchi - Handling Feedback on Social Media | Photography of the Dolomites

24 Apr 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 105 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Isabella Tabacchi! Isabella is a landscape photographer living in Norther...

Charles A. Zimmerman (CAZ) - Landscape Photography in the American Southwest

17 Apr 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 104 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Charles Zimmerman! Charles A. Zimmerman (CAZ) is a landscape photographer l...

Chuck Haney - 25 years of Photographing Montana

12 Apr 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 103 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Chuck Haney! Chuck Haney is a professional freelance photographer/writer/v...

Michael Bollino & Paul Bowman - Group Photo Road Trips

03 Apr 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 102 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Michael Bollino & Paul Bowman! I just returned from a 8-day photography...

Olympian Brent Hayden and the Power of Landscape Photography

27 Mar 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 101 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Brent Hayden! Originally from Mission BC, Brent spent 17 years living in ...

Episode 100! Photographers of the Round Table!

20 Mar 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 100 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast featuring a round table panel discussion with David Thompson, Alex Noriega, Er...

Patricia Davidson - Landscape Photography on the Oregon Coast

13 Mar 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 099 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Patricia Davidson! Patricia Davidson is a professional photographer, special...

Gabriel Eisenband - The Landscapes of Colombia

06 Mar 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 098 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Gabriel Eisenband! Gabriel is a landscape photographer from the country of C...

William Patino - The Landscapes of New Zealand

27 Feb 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 097 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with William Patino! First and foremost William is a husband and father, based o...

Sean Parker - Arizona's Dark Skies

20 Feb 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 096 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Sean Parker! Sean Parker is a professional photographer / time-lapse cinema...

Andrew Studer - Working with Corporate Clients

13 Feb 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 095 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Andrew Studer! Andrew Studer is a professional outdoor commercial photograph...

Timm Chapman - Art Fairs

06 Feb 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 094 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Timm Chapman! Timm Chapman is an award winning photographer whose work hangs...

Gavin Hardcastle - Vlogging / Finding Meaning in Photography

30 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 093 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Gavin Hardcastle! Gavin is an awesome photographer living in Vancouver Islan...

Mark Metternich Returns - Fine Art Printing

22 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 092 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Mark Metternich! Mark Metternich returns to the podcast to talk all about fi...

Aaron Feinberg - Landscape Photography in Kauai

16 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 091 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Aaron Feinberg! I had the chance to catch up with Aaron in his gallery in Po...

Arka Chatterjee - Copyright Law and Photography

09 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 090 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Arka Chatterjee! Arka Chatterjee is a landscape photographer and intellectua...

Greg Russell - Landscape Photography in Wilderness Areas

02 Jan 2019

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 089 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Greg Russell! Greg is a photographer and science teacher living in Southern ...

Scott McCook - Aerial Landscape Photography

26 Dec 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 088 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Scott McCook! Scott McCook is a landscape and aerial photographer living in ...

Thomas Heaton - Icons / YouTube / Social Media

19 Dec 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 087 of the F-Stop Collaborate and Listen podcast with Thomas Heaton! Thomas is a landscape and travel photographer living in North...

Jack Curran - Mastering Black and White Landscape Photography

12 Dec 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 086 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Jack Curran! Jack Curran is an award-winning Black and White landscape photographer who...

Ryan Dyar - Controversy in Landscape Photography

05 Dec 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 085 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Ryan Dyar! Ryan Dyar probably needs no introduction to most landscape photographers lis...

Andrew Klinger - Deep Sky Astro Landscape Photography

28 Nov 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 084 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Andrew Klinger! Andrew is a deep-sky astrophotographer living in the Dallas Ft. Worth a...

Adam Mowery - Product and Outdoor Industry Landscape Photography

21 Nov 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 083 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Adam Mowery! Adam is a landscape and outdoor product photographer living in North Carol...

Jannick Clausen - Landscape Photography Contests & Institutions

14 Nov 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 082 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Jannick Clausen! Jannick is an accredited master photographer based in Brisbane, Queens...

Cody Duncan - Norway Landscape Photography

07 Nov 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 081 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Cody Duncan! Cody Duncan is an award-winning landscape photographer living in Lofoten,...

Chuck Kimmerle - Landscape Photography of the Plains & Prairies

31 Oct 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 080 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Chuck Kimmerle! Chuck Kimmerle is a black and white photographer originally based in th...

Jason Matias - The Art of Selling Art

24 Oct 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 079 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Jason Matias! Jason Matias is a fine art photographer based in Bellvue, Washington. Jas...

Phill Monson - Leave it Better & Wilderness Conservation

17 Oct 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 078 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Phill Monson! Phill is a fantastic landscape photographer and graphic designer residing...

Nature Photographers Network (NPN)

10 Oct 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 077 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with David Kingham, Jennifer Renwick, Alex Noriega and Ron Coscorossa! The crew all convened...

Charlotte Gibb - Intimate Landscape Photography

03 Oct 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 076 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Charlotte Gibb! Charlotte spent her childhood romping around and exploring the wildern...

David Johnston - Burnout in Landscape Photography

26 Sep 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 075 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with David Johnston! David Johnston is a renowned landscape photographer and educator. Photo...

Hans Strand - Aerial Landscape Photography in Iceland

19 Sep 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 074 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Hans Strand! Hans Strand, born in 1955 in Marmaverken, Sweden. In 1990, after a nine-ye...

Arpan Das - Multiple Exposure Landscape Photography

12 Sep 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 073 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Arpan Das! Arpan is a full time Astrophysics/Cosmology research student by profession;...

Scotty Perkins - Backcountry Safety as a Landscape Photographer

05 Sep 2018

Contributed by Lukas

Welcome to Episode 072 of F-Stop Collaborate and Listen with Scotty Perkins! Scotty is a fantastic landscape photographer living in Boise, ID and he...