Future Learning Design Podcast
Episodes
Global Pathways Innovations Mini-Series - Intro Trailer
21 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this final episode of 2025, you'll hear about some of the most exciting things happening around the world for pathways through the upper end of...
1. International Big Picture Learning Credential (part of the Global Pathways Innovations Mini-Series)
21 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this first episode in this Innovative Student Pathways mini-series, I had the huge pleasure of chatting with Monty, Eliza and Lydia, three amazing ...
2. Greenstones at Green School Bali (part of the Global Pathways Innovations Mini-Series)
21 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode 2 of this Innovative Student Pathways mini-series, I chatted with Olivia, Farrah and Chrissa, current students at Green School Bali about t...
3. African Leadership Academy (part of the Global Pathways Innovations Mini-Series)
21 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode 3 of this Innovative Student Pathways mini-series, you'll find a fantastic overview of all of the amazing work happening at African Lea...
4. IB Systems Transformation Pathway (part of the Global Pathways Innovations Mini-Series)
21 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this fourth episode on exciting global innovations in student pathways, I chatted to Sara, Anisa and Entong from UWC South East Asia and Gabi and S...
5. Global Impact Diploma (part of the Global Pathways Innovations Mini-Series)
21 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In the last of these 5 mini-series episodes on innovative and emerging student pathways, I chatted with Malna, Nikk and Belen from American Internatio...
Education for Human Flourishing - A Conversation with Michael Stevenson
14 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
On 7th November, the OECD published a very significant statement of intent on Education for Human Flourishing (available here: https://www.oecd.org/en...
What's Love Got to Do with Education? A Conversation with Dr. Laura Penn, Khadija Shahper Bakthiar, Jamie Bristow and Andrea Hiott
29 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As we think about systems change, it's all too easy to get caught up the technical design of new institutions and 'system architecture'. B...
Rewilding Education - A Conversation with Prof. Hilary Cremin
15 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The idea of rewilding is now a common topic of conversation in response to the depletion of biodiversity and natural habitats for local wildlife and w...
Education as a Commons - A Conversation with David Bollier
02 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As many regular listeners to the podcast know, on this channel we have been exploring the new kinds of educational institutions that are emerging in r...
Learning as If Life Depended on It - A Conversation with Olli-Pekka Heinonen
18 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
There are a lot of people searching right now, including me, including this podcast, searching for different ways in and through many of the global ch...
Career and Life Pathways for Young People in Turbulent Times - A Conversation with Global Experts
05 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
One of our main roles as educators is to support and help our young people figure out who they are and how they want to contribute to the world. Given...
Learning Peace to Resolve Conflict, not Remove It - A Conversation with Dr Luke Roberts
20 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In 1981, the UN established the International Day of Peace to commemorate and strengthen the ideals of peace. In a time when both the influence of mul...
Moving Beyond Binaries in Learning, Loving, and Living - A Conversation with Andrea Hiott
06 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I've been so looking forward to sharing this conversation as it is an area that I am particularly passionate about. I feel very strongly that the way ...
Outgrowing Modernity - A Conversation with Vanessa Machado de Oliveira Andreotti, Giovanna de Oliveira Andreotti and Manda Scott
12 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
To mark the moment and celebrate the release of Vanessa Machado de Oliveira Andreotti's new book 'Outgrowing Modernity: Navigating Complexity,...
Reimagining Development - A Conversation with Dr Uma Pradhan and Dr Peter Sutoris
02 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What it means to be an educated person or have an educated population as a country is a big part of what informs the decisions around industrial, econ...
Sparking Curiosity and an Ethic of Care Across Continents - A Conversation with Ramji Raghavan
26 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As I explore different aspects of the education transition that we need globally, and is emerging, it is increasingly clear that schools (or what migh...
Going Back to First Principles to Replace "School" - A Conversation with Dr Kapono Ciotti
19 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
If we are going to radically rethink and perhaps replace schools as the dominant institutions of education, what are the first principles questions th...
Making Meaning, Not Making Sense - A Conversation with Sam Crosby
12 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In the business of education someone telling you that something doesn't make sense is usually the moment to step in and explain, support and resolve t...
Evaluating Competencies to Go Beyond Education - A Conversation with Michaela Horvathova
05 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
“Are we valuing what we measure or measuring what we value?” It's probably a familiar question to many of you. And this week we're taking a detail...
Learning to Relearn - A Conversation with Kwame Sarfo-Mensah
28 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week it is a huge pleasure to be able to bring you this cross-over episode with Kwame Sarfo-Mensah and his fantastic channel, #IdentityTalk4Educa...
Shifting the Dark Matter of Education - A Conversation with Indy Johar and Adam Purvis
21 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Which places might be the first movers in a radical educational shift? And by radical in this conversation we're not talking about small tweaks in...
Ancient Wisdom Practices in Education - A Conversation with Bade Kucukoglu and Satheesh Namasivayam
14 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, we're diving deep into a conversation that bridges ancient wisdom and modern learning. Joining Tim are two incredible thinkers and practiti...
Everyday Habits for Transforming Systems - A Conversation with Adam Kahane
07 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, it's a huge pleasure to welcome Adam Kahane onto the podcast to talk with Tim about the everyday habits and radical engagement that young p...
We Need More Embodied Education! A Conversation with Arawana Hayashi, Prof Guy Claxton, Dr Akhil K. Singh, Emily Poel and Caroline Williams
31 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week we're exploring embodiment science in education with some of the worlds leading embodiment practitioners and cognitive scientists! We be...
The End of Education as We Know It? - A Conversation with Dr Ida Rose Florez
25 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The idea that schools simply deliver objective and neutral knowledge and skills to our young humans is a complete myth. In fact, with the amount of ti...
Learning with a Thousand Brains - A Conversation with Dr Viviane Clay
18 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
After learning about the amazing work of my guest this week, I had an idea that I wanted to test out. Perhaps our current obsession with Large Languag...
Why Change in Education is So Hard (But it Doesn't Have to Be) - A Conversation with Dr James Mannion
10 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, we're thinking about how change happens, or more often doesn't happen in formal education! What are the practical approaches that e...
Are Schools Harming our Young People? A Conversation with Dr Naomi Fisher
03 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
A huge part of the shifts we want to see in schools and in education more broadly is more agency, choice-making and self direction for young people. T...
Celebrating 5 years of the Future Learning Design podcast!
27 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, we are celebrating 5 years and 193 episodes since going live with Episode 1 in April 2020!You can hear Tim's reflections, as well as cl...
Are we Educating Citizens or Consumers? A Conversation with Jon Alexander
19 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Are we educating young people as consumers? Have educational institutions become service providers in the consumer economy of educational products? ...
Unconditioning our minds so we can think differently about "school" - A Conversation with Manish Jain
13 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Is it possible to unlearn the conditioning of our minds, that many of us who have had traditional educations have experienced, such that we can think ...
Young People Are Tackling Systems Change! A Conversation with Nolita Mvunelo, Matías Lara and Vanessa Terschluse
05 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As I often say we radically underestimate young people and what they are capable of. They are asking to be involved in the critical conversations abou...
Is Systemic Change in Education Possible? A Conversation with Alex Beard
30 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
There are very different ways of 'doing' education all around the world and my guest this week has spent many years exploring and deeply under...
An Education for Transforming Self, Society and Business? A Conversation with Otto Scharmer
23 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As you will know if you've listened to previous episodes, this podcast is really about the central question of the kind of education (formal and i...
Navigating Educational Futures in the Present - A Conversation with Bill Sharpe
16 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
With the so many prevailing stories of uncertainty around for everyone, our roles as educators supporting young people and colleagues to know how to n...
Can We Make Spaces for Knowledge Systems to Coexist, Without Duress? - A Conversation Prof. Catherine Odora Hoppers
09 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As you will have heard on many previous episodes of the podcast, with Marie Battiste, Carl Mika, Wakanyi Hoffman, Vanessa Andreotti and others, unders...
Every Young Person Should Learn Complexity Sciences - A Conversation with Dr Roland Kupers
02 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Reductionism - the breaking down of complex phenomena into as many parts as possible to make them fully understandable - is everywhere. To some extent...
Young People are Reclaiming their Education and Making New Worlds Possible - A Conversation with Zineb Mouhyi
23 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Everyone involved in education from young people to tecahers to leaders to policy-makers are being asked some really tough questions in these current ...
Organisations as Human Learning Systems - A Conversation with Thea Snow and Toby Lowe
16 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In episode 181 with Robert Barnett, Rob and I were discussing the real constraints and difficult conditions teachers find themselves in as they try to...
Why Every Teacher Should Know About Ecological Psychology! A Conversation with Miguel Segundo-Ortin and Vicente Raja
09 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As educators, a great deal of our understandings of what learning is has been dominated by behaviourist (check out previous episode with Carol Sanford...
Meeting Every Learner's Needs - A Conversation with Robert Barnett
02 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Systems change is a big phrase, which can mean a lot of different things to different people. Quite possibly the system doesn't actually change &q...
Building Bridges for Systemic Change - A Conversation with Manda Scott
26 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As Manda Scott's BRILLIANT podcast suggests, "another world is possible… we have the power of gods to destroy our home, but we also have th...
Education as Anaesthetic, Learning Beyond Time and Space - A Conversation with Carl Mika
19 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week it was a huge pleasure to be able to welcome Carl Mika, Professor of Māori and Indigenous Philosophies from Aotearoa, the country now known...
Supporting Disengaged Teens to Learn Better, Feel Better and Live Better - A Conversation with Jenny Anderson and Rebecca Winthrop
12 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is a fantastic conversation with 2 brilliant women who have been whipping up a storm this week with the release of their amazing new book...
Schoolishness and Alienation - A Conversation with Prof. Susan D. Blum
05 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's a strange thing that the concept of school has become almost universal over the last few hundred years. If you ask anyone almost anywhere in the ...
Humanising Education - A Conversation with Karima Kadaoui
29 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We're ending this final epsiode of 2024 in a beautiful place with Karima Kadaoui sharing in some co-reflections with me about the trustful and humanis...
“A Hopeful Education for the End of the World as We Know It”? A Conversation with Ginie Servant-Miklos, Raïsa Mirza, Will Richardson & Manda Scott
20 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The inspiration for this end-of-year impromptu gathering came from a recent flurry of ‘Collapse'-inspired exchanges in my (un)social media feeds! Th...
Creating New Institutional Architectures - A Conversation with Sir Geoff Mulgan
15 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Systems change, or in fact any change, in formal education systems is notoriously hard. Research and innovation across the sector has been historicall...
Time to Question the Science? A Conversation with Subhadra Das
08 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
One of the things that I enjoy doing on the podcast is problematising various ’school subjects’. In previous episodes, with various guests we’ve...
Education for the Age of AI - A Conversation with Charles Fadel
01 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Back with another special episode on the status of the AI in education, cutting through the hype (again) with the fantastic Charles Fadel. This is qui...
Humane Education and the Solutionary Way - A Conversation with Zoe Weil and Julie Meltzer
24 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
A more humane education feels very necessary right now. Our planet and its inhabitants all over the world seem to be crying out for it. Humane Educa...
The Impossible Question of Living Well - A Conversation with Dr. Helen Street
17 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
“Perhaps the secret of living well is not in having all the answers but in pursuing unanswerable questions in good company.” This is a quote fro...
Learning our Worlds through Language - A Conversation with Kevin Belin
10 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Something we often forget is how powerfully language shapes how we view each other and the world and how we interact as part of it. For that reason, i...
Going beyond Systems Thinking - A Conversation with Dave Snowden
03 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
As you will have heard in previous episodes for example with Ray Ison, Mette Böll and others, there is a lot of interest currently in systems thinkin...
Unearthing Joy in Education - A Conversation with Dr Gholdy Muhammad
27 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Keeping educational experiences alive, responsive and moving with our young people is a key piece of what the best educators do, even more impressive ...
Socratic dialogue for young entrepreneurs - A Conversation with Michael Strong
20 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Too often simplistic arguments against educational change are that providing more opportunities for increased agency for young people (following their...
Sensuous Knowledge - A Conversation with Minna Salami
13 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This strange thing called ‘knowledge’ has always been a battleground in educational conversations - for example, in lots of loud calls for “know...
Learning from Bildung Climate Schools - A Conversation with Ginie Servant-Miklos and Rutger Engels
05 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We need to ask ourselves some really tough questions about what our education systems are really doing to support young people to live in a climate ch...
Creating spaces for better conversations with Doline Ndorimana
28 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
If you’ve been listening to the podcast for a while now, you will know that creating conversational spaces full of possibility as an antidote to pol...
Taking adolescents seriously - A Conversation with Chris Balme
22 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
For new parents and early years educators, there’s a wealth of guidance and support for how to understand what’s happening for our babies and todd...
A living systems approach to education - A Conversation with Carol Sanford
15 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Carol Sanford (https://carolsanford.com/) is one of the most important thinkers of the last few decades. Like no-one else, her work calls ...
Big Picture Learning Australia - A Conversation with Viv White
07 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
As you will have heard on previous episodes with Sandra Milligan, Yong Zhao, folks from Mastery Transcript Consortium and Rethinking Assessment, stand...
Learning history or learning from history? A Conversation with Roman Krznaric
01 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back to the first episode in the new series of the Future Learning Design podcast. The podcast now has a lovely new home at Good Impact Labs (...
The Power of Agency - A Conversation with Indra Adnan
29 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What does it really mean to have 'agency' and how might we create more opportunities for young people to step into their agency in meaningful ...
New stories about indigenous wisdom - A Conversation with Wakanyi Hoffman
21 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Wakanyi Hoffman is a storyteller, author, keynote speaker specialized in ubuntu philosophy, a scholar of indigenous knowledge, and narrative weaver of...
Building adaptive capacity in our young people - A Conversation with Glenda Eoyang
14 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Simply trying to avoid or remove uncertainty and complexity from the lives of our young people (and our own) just isn't a viable strategy anymore!...
Communities of Practice and Social Learning - A Conversation with Etienne and Beverly Wenger-Trayner
07 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Etienne and Beverly Wenger-Trayner are internationally renowned social learning theorists and consultants. Their pioneering writing and consulting is ...
An Indigenous Renaissance - A Conversation with Dr Marie Battiste
30 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What does it mean for those in culturally Eurocentric school systems around the world to learn from and with indigenous peoples about the role of educ...
Creating the University of the Future - A Conversation with Laura Eigbrecht and Ulf-Daniel Ehlers
23 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What are the 'future skills' our young people need, and will the university of the future be unrecognisable from the universities of today? La...
Learning in a Time of Abundance - A Conversation with Dave Cormier
16 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Information and connection were once scarce resources. But no longer! So what does this mean for the way education happens? This week, Dave Cormier, a...
Creating Spaces of Belonging - A Conversation with Dr Emily Meadows
09 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What would it mean for ALL of our young people to feel safe and that they belong in our schools? This week, it's fantastic to have Dr Emily Meadow...
Finding 'Aliveness' in Schools - A Conversation with Prof. Guy Claxton
02 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
There are many myths that hold teaching back. But more than any 'trad' or 'prog' debates about pedagogy, perhaps the most powerful one...
Every Child Can - A Conversation with Kiran Bir Sethi
26 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
With the recent release of her book 'Every Child Can: Riverside School's Design-Led Approach to Empower Children', the wonderful Kiran Bir...
The Future of Assessment - Special Episode with Melbourne Metrics, Rethinking Assessment and Mastery Transcript Consortium
19 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode will hopefully give you a sense of where the most promising organisations in the world who are innovating around assessment are at, and w...
It's going to take all of us - A Conversation with Kevin Simpson
12 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Kevin Simpson is one of those rare special people who thrive on connecting others And bringing people together around shared causes and visions of a d...
Why we need inquiry more than ever - A Conversation with Trevor Mackenzie
05 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
All the talk about systems change in education is great, and a topic we cover lots on the podcast. But the current reality for many educators might fe...
Our brains are not just memory machines! A Conversation with Dr. Laura Desirèe Di Paolo
28 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Over the last decade, there has been a surge of interest in the evidence and research-backing that support choices that educators and leaders are maki...
Musical Spaces for Transformation & Community Building - A Conversation with Eric Dozier
21 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Eric Dozier (https://www.ericdozier.com/) is not only an incredible musician and, as he calls himself, itinerant blues preacher, but also a cultural a...
A Radical New Kind of 'Probiotic' Education - A Conversation with Dr. Vanessa Andreotti
14 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What does it mean to help our young people understand all of the forces that have brought us to where we are, and also to take real responsibility for...
Systems Thinking in Practice - A Conversation with Prof. Ray Ison
07 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
With so much talk about 'systems thinking' in education, sometimes it can become framework overload! Which one should I pick? What's the d...
Towards Liberation - A Conversation with Jamilah Pitts
31 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week I’m chatting with Jamilah Pitts, whose incredible work challenges us to root our educational practices in activism, healing and love. This...
Creating an inquiry and research culture in our schools - A Conversation with Prof. Rex Li and Dr. Clara Cheng
24 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s conversation, with Professor Rex Li and Dr Clara Cheng, we take a wide-ranging look at how we can take inspiration and ideas from pas...
Educating for the 'Long Now' - A Conversation with Homa Tavangar
17 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Homa Tavangar (https://homatavangar.com/ ) is an incredible educator and leader. She is the co-founder of the Oneness Lab with Eric Dozier (https:/...
Decolonising our Institutions - A Conversation with Prof. Jonathan Jansen
10 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
How are the knowledge and skills that we choose to teach or not teach implicated in the power structures and political histories of the places in whic...
In Search of Play - A Conversation with Dr. Jane Hession and Ronan Healy
03 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s episode is a conversation about the importance of play and playfulness with the fantastic Dr. Jane Hession and Ronan Healy. Based on the...
Evidencing Edtech - A Conversation with Prof. Natalia Kucirkova
25 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Professor Natalia Kucirkova is Professor of Reading and Early Childhood Development at the University of Stavanger. She researches children’s use o...
Why countries should get out of PISA! - A Conversation with Dr. Yong Zhao
18 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Yong Zhao is a Foundation Distinguished Professor in the School of Education at the University of Kansas and a professor in Educational ...
Context Changes Everything - A Conversation with Dr. Alicia Juarrero
11 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Alicia Juarrero, is Co-Founder and President of VectorAnalytica and Professor Emerita of Philosophy at Prince George’s Community College (MD). She i...
The Problems of Translating the Science of Learning - A Conversation with Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath
04 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath is an award-winning cognitive neuroscientist, best-selling author and renowned keynote speaker with an expertise in human l...
Transforming Professional Learning - A Conversation with Prof. Rachel Lofthouse
28 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
It is increasingly clear that recruiting, developing and retaining teachers is a very real issue around the world. Dr. Rachel Lofthouse is at the fore...
Overhyping Tech & AI in Education - A Conversation with Dr. Gary Stager
21 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
As an elementary teacher by training, Dr. Gary Stager has taught students from preschool through doctoral studies. In 1990, Gary led professional deve...
On Compassionate Systems Change in Education - A Conversation with Dr. Mette Miriam Böll
14 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today’s guest has been doing amazing work in this areas alongside Peter Senge, Daniel Goleman and colleagues at the IB, through the Center for Syste...
(Un)common Sense Teaching - A Conversation with Dr. Barbara Oakley
07 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Professor Barbara Oakley is a Distinguished Professor of Engineering at Oakland University. Barbara’s research has been described as “revolutionar...
Enterprising Youth or Youth Entrepreneurship - A Conversation with Nicole Dyson
01 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Nicole Dyson is a multi-award-winning educator and entrepreneur, and a global authority on project-based learning and youth entrepreneurship. With an ...
Well-being Data - A Conversation with Matthew Savage
18 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Formerly Principal of an award-winning international school in the Middle East, and with a long and varied career in school leadership both in the UK ...
Thinking Moves - A Conversation with Roger Sutcliffe
10 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
It’s hard to disagree that critical thinking is an essential skill for young people faced with a complex and uncertain future. And yet, everyone fro...
Systems Innovation in Africa - A Conversation with Odunayo Aliu
04 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Odunayo Aliu is an Education Specialist and Development Practitioner with experience in transforming the education landscape in rural and marginalized...
Learning is Moving in New Ways - A Conversation with Professor Dor Abrahamson
26 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dor Abrahamson is Professor of Secondary Mathematics Education in the area of Cognition and Development at University of California, Berkeley and a me...
Developing High-Performing Systems - A Conversation with Wei Li Liew
19 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Ms Liew Wei Li, the Director-General of Education for the Ministry of Education in Singapore shares her insights into the many reason...