FYP Podcast
Episodes
FYP Podcast 492 | He's A Body
03 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Well, well, well. Palace return to the scene of the crime and escape with a 1-0 victory from Old Trafford. Jack, Joe and Dom are here to review that g...
FYP Podcast 491 | Concentrate On The League
27 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Two games to review, neither of them memorable, as Palace draw with Fulham and lose at Man United. Jim, Jack and Andy Bell discuss the 0-0 draw with t...
FYP Podcast 490 | (Darren) England Expects
20 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
An injury-ravaged Palace battle bravely but are beaten by D̶a̶r̶r̶e̶n̶ ̶E̶n̶g̶l̶a̶n̶d̶ Aston Villa 3-1. Joe is in the hot seat this week...
FYP Podcast 489 | Updating Palace's All-Time XI
13 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
It's the international break so Jim and Andy Bell are here to see what the Palace Centenary XI of 2005 would look like now, after 10 years in the Prem...
FYP Podcast 488 | Jim Piddock Interview
08 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
It's the second of our new monthly interview series we're joined by Hollywood legend and huge Palace fan Jim Piddock, who talks about that promotion t...
FYP Podcast 487 | Wins Three Points, Loses Three Points
06 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Palace beat Wolves 3-2 at Selhurst to go into the international break in seventh in the table. Jack is in the chair this week with Joe and Kevin to di...
FYP Podcast 486 | Played Baldy
30 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Two games for debut host Joe Walker and panelists Grace Mathieson and Jack Pierce to review as Palace draw with Brentford (again) and beat Plymouth in...
FYP Podcast 485 | Stinks of Palace
23 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Palace's first game of the season back at Selhurst ends in a slender 1-0 defeat to Arsenal. Jim, Joe and Reuben react to that and hear from Palace leg...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | MICHAEL OLISE STAYING AT PALACE!
17 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Absolutely incredible, stunning news this afternoon as Steve Parish dropped the bomb out of nowhere that Michael Olise has rejected Chelsea and is sta...
FYP Podcast 484 | Here for a good time, not a long time
16 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
From the highs of a season opening win at Bramall Lane to the low of Michael Olise's impending departure, and all in a matter of days. There's a lot f...
FYP Podcast 483 | Star Vacuum
10 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The midweek podcast is back! The new season is days away so in a bumper episode Jim, Jack, Joe and new signing Andy Bell review pre-season, talk trans...
FYP Podcast 482 | Johnny Ertl Interview
04 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In the first of our new monthly interview series we're joined by Hillsborough Hero Johnny Ertl to chat joining Palace, Neil Warnock, that game in 2010...
FYP Podcast 481 | Long Live The King
24 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
It's actually happened. After 458 appearance and 90 goals over two spells, Wilfried Zaha has left Palace, for Galatasaray in Turkey. One episode won't...
FYP Podcast 480 | Pre-Season Catch Up
20 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Rob, Jack and Jim have a little catch up to chat pre-season results, incoming transfers (or lack of), potential outgoing transfers and try to ad some ...
FYP Podcast 479 | Groundhodg Day
03 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Roy Hodgson is officially announced as Palace manager for the 2023/24 season. Some of the FYP team jump on a Twitter Space to discuss the announcement...
FYP Podcast 478 | End Of Season Review
17 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The 2022/23 season is over so JD, Kevin, Jack and Reuben are here to run the rule over the previous 10 months and hand out a few awards. Sponsored by...
FYP Podcast 477 | Ebere Eze's Journey (with Clive Whittingham of Loft For Words)
14 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We're back already, this time to celebrate Ebere Eze's journey from rejected London trialist to England international. We get the expert insight of QP...
FYP Podcast 476 | This Is Our Church
30 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Palace wrap up 2022/23 with a draw against Forest on the final day. Jim, Jack and Ben Long review that 1-1 draw at Selhurst (sort of). But a ticket t...
FYP Podcast 475 | KEVIN PHILLIPS ON WEMBLEY 10TH ANNIVERSARY
26 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Surprise! To celebrate the 10th anniversary of that playoff win over Watford at Wembley in 2013, we caught up with the goalscorer that day; Mr Kevin P...
FYP Podcast 474 | Joel Edward Philip Ward
23 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
An FYP Podcast Lite this week as Jack and Jim return to the studio to bask in the glory of Joel Ward while we hear from Rob and Sellsy on the Post Mat...
FYP Podcast 473 | Evergreen Content
17 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jack, Joe and Reuben discuss the Ebere Eze Show at Selhurst Park after a routine win over Bournemouth. They also answer your questions, pick their win...
FYP Podcast 472 | Carry On Palace
09 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Routine defeat at Tottenham for Palace, so this week's panel of Jim, Jack and Dom discuss Millwall's playoff disaster instead. (Fine, also some Palace...
FYP Podcast 471 | Pints At 11.30am
02 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jack and Jim review that seven-goal thriller at Selhurst Park, answer your questions, pic their winners and losers, and preview the trip to Tottenham ...
FYP Podcast 470 | Wrong Is Fine
26 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Four days, two games, one point, no goals so plenty for JD, Grace and Joe to chew over. They review the 0-0 draw with Everton and the 2-0 defeat at Wo...
FYP Podcast 469 | South London Maradona
18 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jim, jack and Edmund Brack from the SLP review Palace's 2-0 win down at Southampton, answer your questions, pick their winners and losers and preview ...
FYP Podcast 468 | Glad All Loafer
11 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Palace smash Leeds 5-1 in Roy "Definitely not a comfy pair of shoes" Hodgson's second game back. Jim, Jack, Amy and Joe review that game, answer your ...
FYP Podcast 467 | A Comfy Old Shoe
04 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Roy and Ray are back and so is a win as Palace beat Leicester with the final kick of the game. JD, Jack, Joe and Kevin review that game, answer your q...
FYP Podcast 466 | THE HODGCAST 2.0
21 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Roy Hodgson is back at Palace for a second stint, taking over from Patrick Vieira for the final 10 games of the season. Jim, Jack and Dom review that ...
VIEIRA SACKED EMERGENCY POD
17 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Patrick Vieira has been sacked by Palace! JD is joined by a host of FYP panelists in a Twitter Space to react to the news, which we've put into a podc...
FYP Podcast 465 | Crunch Time
16 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The pressure is mounting on Patrick Vieira after two defeats in a week. Your midweek panel of JD, Kevin and Grace review those 1-0 defeats to Manchest...
FYP Podcast 464 | Subtly Bad
07 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 463 | Waiting In Morleys
01 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this week's midweek podcast Jim, Amy and Jack review Palace's 0-0 draw with Liverpool, answer your questions and preview Saturday's game with Aston...
FYP Podcast 462 | You Don't Wanna Be Outside
22 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 461 | Don't Let It Bounce
15 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Palace somehow rescue a point at home to Brighton thanks to Robert Sanchez's clanger. Jim, Joe and Jack review that 1-1 draw, answer your questions an...
FYP Podcast 460 | Smaller When he Jumps
07 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
JD, Grace and Jack review that WWE match 2-1 defeat at Old Trafford, answer your questions and preview a big game with Brighton. PLUS they pick the...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | January 2023 Transfer Window Special
03 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Rob, Sellsy and Dom are here with a rare appearance on the public feed to review the January transfer window as Palace bring in two midfielders this m...
FYP Podcast 459 | Rolls-Royce Defenders
25 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jim, Jack and pod debutant Reuben Pinder discuss a third 0-0 draw with Newcastle this season. PLUS they pick their winners and losers just for our ...
FYP Podcast 458 | Clutch Moment
19 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A shorter midweek pod where Jack and Jim discuss the games against Chelsea and Manchester United. Tickets to Jim's February show here: https://www.an...
FYP Podcast 457 | Mid-Season Crisis
09 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 456 | Brucie Bonus
02 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 455 | The Best Pod of 2022, Probably
30 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 454 | More Questions Than Answers
27 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 453 | Clucking For Palace Again
20 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 452 | Rebecca Lowe Interview
12 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/FYP and get on your way to being your best self. The final of ou...
FYP Podcast 451 | Mid-Season Quiz
06 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Quiz time! Richard Foster tests the panel on their Palace and World Cup knowledge. Let us know how you did at home! Get a copy of World Cup Nuggets h...
FYP Podcast 450 | World Cup 2022 Update
02 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Sponsored by Beer52. Get a case of 8 free craft beers from Beer52 (just cover the £5.95 for postage) here: beer52.com/fyp Jim, Jesse and Grace are h...
FYP Podcast 449 | Ben Bailey-Smith's Favourite Palace Games
28 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 448 | Aaron Wilbraham Interview
21 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 447 | What's Eating Jeffrey Schlupp?
15 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 446 | 1.5 Defensive Midfielders
08 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is sponsored by graphic designer and Palace fan Matthew J I Wood, who is offering 20% off his entire range of Palace prints, mugs, canvas...
FYP Podcast 445 | Nearly Typical Palace
01 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 444 | Socks Into The Ground
19 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 443 | Too Many Ballers?
11 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 442 | Heartbreaker
04 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Pod Extraaa | Marathon March 2022
25 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We did the Palace For Life Marathon March again! Here's some chat from along the 26.2 mile route. You can still donate here: https://www.justgiving.c...
FYP Podcast 441 | Best Palace vs Brighton Memories
22 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Sponsored by Greene King, your home of pub sport. Search for the ‘Greene King Season Ticket’ and use the promotion code ‘FYP’ -all caps - to g...
FYP Podcast 440 | Henry Winter's Good Citizen Charter
15 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 439 | Gone Too VAR Time Time
07 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 438 | Chateaux Diplomacy
31 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 437 | Eze Does it
22 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Sponsored by NordVPN. Get an exclusive deal with a big discount off a NordVPN plan PLUS 4 months for free at nordvpn.com/fyp Jim, Grace and Kevin rev...
FYP Podcast 436 | Darwin's Van
16 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 435 | 10 Days
09 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 434 | Here We Go Again
03 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 433 | Cheick Him Out
14 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Palace have signed Cheick Doucoure from Lens on a five-year-deal so JD and Jack jumped on for an FYP Podcast Lite to discuss his arrival. They also he...
FYP Podcast 432 | Who is Mr Crystal Palace?
09 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 431 | The Perfect Palace Draft
23 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
We're back after a little post-season break with something we've never done before. Jim, Jack, Dom and JD Snr battle against each other to pick their ...
FYP Podcast 430 | Aubergine Raindrops
02 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It's the end of the season so time for our traditional gathering at the FYP studio (AKA Kevin's house) to review the 2021/22 season. Join JD, Kevin, C...
FYP Podcast 429 | Terry Convertables
26 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 428 | Hangxiety
16 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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Pardew's Hot Pants Volume 20 | Peak Palace Sh*thousery
12 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 427 | The Watford Gap
10 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Sponsored by Little Mouse cheese and wine shop in Norwood. Pre-order a bespoke selection of cheeses for FYP listeners for just £17 to pick up after t...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Palace 1-0 Watford (preview)
07 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
"Oh Roy Hodgson, he's one of our own." Rob and JD are joined by FYP Patreon legend Joe Copp to review that win over Watford while Sellsy joins JD in...
FYP Podcast 426 | Eze Does It
03 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
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FYP Podcast 425 | Kicked From A***hole To Breakfast
26 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Sponsored by Harrys. Improve your shaving routine with a free trial kit, all you have to do is cover £3.95 postage. Just go to harrys.com/FYP Two gam...
Made In South London - Palace For Life Foundation Campaign Launch Special
25 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The Palace for Life Foundation and Crystal Palace F.C.are launching Made In South London; a new flagship fundraising campaign to raise £1million over...
FYP Podcast 424 | South London Takeover
18 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It wasn't to be at Wembley. JD and Jack are joined by Crystal Palace Womens' midfielder Leigh Nicol to discuss that 2-0 FA Cup semi-final defeat to Ch...
FYP Podcast 423 | No Beers Til Polegate
12 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It's a huge week as we preview the FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea at Wembley (and also force ourselves to review Sunday's 2-1 defeat at Leicester...
FYP Podcast 422 | Leggy Presence
06 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Another great Monday night at Selhurst under the lights as Palace dispatch Arsenal 3-0, just like in 2017. JD, Kevin and Dom are here to review that g...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Palace 3-0 Arsenal (preview)
05 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It's like 2017 all over again. Head on over to patreon.com/fyppodcast for the full episode. FYP Podcast Extraaa: patreon.com/fyppodcast Twitter: @...
FYP Podcast 421 | The Good Place
22 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
What a day. Jim, Jack and John Curran review that memorable 4-0 FA Cup quarter-final win over Everton. They also pick their winners and must do better...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Palace 4-0 Everton (preview)
20 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
WEM-BER-LEE!! Head on over to patreon.com/fyppodcast for the full episode. FYP Podcast Extraaa: patreon.com/fyppodcast Twitter: @fypfanzine Faceboo...
FYP Podcast 420 | City Slickers
16 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Palace frustrate Man City at Selhurst and hold the champions to a goalless draw. Jim, Jack, Joe and Grace review that game, pick their winners and mus...
FYP Podcast 419 | The Notcher
08 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
A big win at Wolves is on the table for Jim, Kevin, Jack and Andy to review in the weekly main podcast. They also pick their winners and losers from t...
FYP Podcast 418 | Monsieur Bricoleur
02 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Three, yes THREE games to review this week as Palace round off a big seven days with wins over Watford and Stoke and a draw with Burnley. Jim, Jack an...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Watford 1-4 Palace (preview)
24 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
"Hodgson, is a Palace fan!" Head on over to patreon.com/fyppodcast for the full episode. FYP Podcast Extraaa: patreon.com/fyppodcast Twitter: @fypf...
FYP Podcast 417 | The Late Late Show
22 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Another late defeat as Palace go down 1-0 at home to Chelsea despite a spirited display. Jim, Jesse and Jack (AKA The J-Team) discuss that game, pick ...
FYP Podcast 416 | Last On Match Of The Day
15 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Jim, Jack and former Palace TV director Sean Webb review that 0-0 draw at Brentford, pick their winners and losers, answer your questions and preview ...
Pardew's Hot Pants Volume 19 | Worst Referee Blunders
11 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Our nostalgia series is back! And this month Jim, Richard and Jesse look back at some of the worst refereeing blunders, inspired by the Pawson/Friend ...
FYP Podcast 415 | Let's Talk About Jeff
10 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Two games to review as Palace beat Hartlepool in the FA Cup fourth round but then draw at Norwich a few days later in the Premier League. Jim, Jack, G...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | January 2022 Transfer Window Review
02 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Rob, Dom, Adam and Jim review the January 2022 transfer window, discuss out of contract players, Roy Hodgson rocking up at Watford and preview Saturda...
FYP Podcast 414 | We Need To Talk About Kevin Friend
25 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Despite a typically enthusiastic second half fightback, Palace go down 3-1 to ̶K̶e̶v̶i̶n̶ ̶F̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d̶ ̶F̶C̶ Liverpool. Jim is join...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Palace 1-3 Liverpool (preview)
23 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Piss off, Kevin Friend. Head on over to patreon.com/fyppodcast for the full episode. FYP Podcast Extraaa: patreon.com/fyppodcast Twitter: @fypfanzi...
FYP Podcast 413 | Too Spicy
18 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This week's main podcast panel of Jim, Jack and John Curran (AKA The J-Team Lite) review that 1-1 draw at Brighton on Friday night. They also discuss ...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Brighton 1-1 Palace (preview)
16 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Another 1-1 draw with Brighton. JD, Adam and Dom review Friday night's game at the Amex. Head on over to patreon.com/fyppodcast for the full episode....
FYP Podcast 412 | Colonel Mustard's Backside
10 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
After South London is officially classified as belonging to Crystal Palace, Jim, Jack and Kevin review that FA Cup third round win over Millwall, and ...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Millwall 1-2 Palace (preview)
08 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Lol, feeling #Gladallover. Head on over to patreon.com/fyppodcast for the full episode. FYP Podcast Extraaa: patreon.com/fyppodcast Twitter: @fy...
FYP Podcast 411 | Ironically Annoying
05 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The first main FYP Podcast of 2022 is here as Jim, Jack, Joe and Jesse (AKA The J-Team) review that New Year's Day 3-2 defeat to West Ham. They also c...
FYP Podcast Extraaa | Palace 2-3 West Ham (preview)
02 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Not the result to kick off 2022 but an entertaining game none the less. Head on over to patreon.com/fyppodcast for the full episode. FYP Podcast ...
FYP Podcast 410 | Osian’s Eleven
30 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The final pod of 2021 is a bumper one as JD, Kevin, Jack, Joe and Dom review two games (Spurs 0-3 and Norwich 3-0) and look back over an eventful year...
FYP Podcast 409 | Jingle All the Wheeey!
23 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It's our Christmas episode where we thought we had two games to review but the covid-cancelled Watford game means it's just the Southampton 2-2 draw f...