Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
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What is the Collapse of Parenting?
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How does social media influence parenting decisions?
Yeah. Oh my God. Okay. What a, what a schmadre to get going here. Technology. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of crazy. I live in LA and it's not, I mean, the fact that thank God I have power is amazing here today. So I'm happy to have you. I actually have been looking very forward to having you on this podcast because I've been doing a lot of my own research, deep dive into how to build mental resiliency with children. I actually just did a TED Talk myself on... how the coddle culture I thought is part of the reason why kids' resilience has been a miss of this generation. So when I saw your work and I read your book recently, before I even did the TED Talk, it was really interesting to me because even though it's the same outcome, By the way, the book is called The Collapse of Parenting. I highly recommend this book to anybody who is a parent.
But what I was saying is I found it very interesting because we are all very familiar with Jonathan Haidt's Anxious Generation. And what he says are the reasons for... the decline of what's happening in this next generation, helicopter parenting, social media, all the same things that were... Yours say the opposite. And I found that to be super... Your whole thesis is that the collapse of this next generation is really because... of actually the culture of disrespect, the collapse of parents actually parenting, and something else called normophobia. And I really want to deep dive into this because I found it to be fascinating. And let's start. So your background for people, like this guy can speak with authority because you have a PhD from the University of Pennsylvania in psychology.
What is the culture of disrespect in children?
You also, well, you have your- Incidentally, that's the same program that John Haidt graduated from, is a curious point. We know many of the same people. And I want to emphasize, I have great regard for John Haidt, and he was kind enough to send me an advanced reading copy of his book before it came out. And I think the book is very useful, but there's one key point that he doesn't mention anywhere in the book. And that is that this surge in anxiety and depression, that is quite rightly a focus of his concern, is not seen outside the English-speaking world. Kids in Greece, kids in Russia are just as likely to have smartphones as kids in England and the United States and Canada and Australia.
But there has been no rise in anxiety and depression among kids in Greece and kids in Russia. Now, I'm not holding up Russia as a role model by any means, but we have to ask, What's going on in the English speaking world that kids in the English speaking world are showing this enormous surge in anxiety and depression, but kids in Greece and Russia are not. And that's the key point that John Haidt has not addressed. And that's the point that I'm trying to call attention to. And what would you say, if you boil it down, is that key point? Well, I think there's more than one. I think there's multiple things that have happened over the last 20 years. One is the breaking of bonds across generations. And again, this is a point where we have good data. We don't have to guess. Kids in the United States hang out with other kids their own age. The bonds across generations have been broken. This is much less true in Greece.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the Collapse of Parenting?
0:01–1:33
2
How does social media influence parenting decisions?
1:33–3:36
3
What is the culture of disrespect in children?
3:36–7:43
4
How do parental authority and discipline differ?
7:43–15:52
5
What is normophobia and how does it affect children?
15:52–31:39
6
Why are affluent kids more anxious and depressed?
31:39–32:25
7
How can parents empower their children through healthier parenting?
32:25–58:15
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