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Chapter 1: What sports events are highlighted at the beginning of the episode?
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It's that time of the year, lots of chatter that teams are calling about Elias Pettersson. I am shocked. Shocked. Well, not that shocked. Got him. Louis Varlin dominates the Red Sox here in the bottom of the ninth inning.
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Chapter 2: What insights does John Molinaro provide about the Canada vs. Qatar match?
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Okay, let's get into our morning guest list. It's the Duik Morning Drive, brought to you by the Duik Auto Group. Begins at 6.30. John Molinaro is going to join the program, Sportsnet Soccer Insider. Today, 3 o'clock from BC Place, Canada, taking on Qatar, as Jason mentioned, in a massive match to see who gets out of their World Cup group. John's going to join us at 6.30 to preview the game.
7 o'clock, Adnan Virk from MLB Network. We actually really need this hit with Adnan today because with the World Cup starting and all the hockey news happening, I am absolutely lost with baseball right now. Just have no idea what's going on. Adnan's going to help us with that. Get us up to speed with the Jays.
Does Vlad Guerrero have four home runs yet?
We're going to find out at 7 o'clock with Adnan Virk. That's going to be your lead question.
What's going on with baseball?
Let's deal with baseball these days. Adnan Virk from MLB Network is going to join us at 7. 7.30, Sportsnet golf analyst Adam Stanley is going to join. As if we needed another major sporting event right now, the U.S. Open is underway from Shinnecock Hills in New York. Play got underway about an hour ago. There was a fog delay this morning. We'll check in live from Shinnecock.
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Chapter 3: How important is the Canada vs. Qatar match for the Canadian team?
He's going to join us at 730. That course is going to be a beast. Between the weather, it sounds like it's very challenging. I didn't do a ton of research into Shinnecock, I'll admit, but I read a little bit about it last night, and it seems like it's going to be really tough. 8 o'clock, Thomas Trance is going to join the program. Athletic Vancouver Canucks talk.
The Canucks rumors really took off yesterday. Multiple NHL insiders reporting the team is ready to move on from a lot of players, a lot of veteran skaters. It's not even a tear it down to the studs rebuild. It's a burn it. to the ground rebuild. What's Drancer hearing? We're going to find out at 8 a.m.
Also at 8 a.m., we are giving away another pair of tickets to the Outdoorsman and Conservation Festival. That gets underway on June 26th in Squamish. It goes the 26th and the 27th. Visit them online at ocffest.ca for more. Caller number five at 8 a.m. this morning, 604-280-0650. Adog, you go to that every year, don't you? Oh, what a lineup. You can't wait.
It's one of your favorite outdoorsmen and conservation festivals. It may be the best one of them all. So caller number five at 8 a.m., 604-280-0650. You'll win a pair of tickets for that. We got a lot to get into on the program. Without further ado, Laddie, let's tell everybody what happened. Hey, did you guys see the game last night? No. Why?
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Yeah, the draft is next Friday, and it's Thursday today, so eight days away. And there were multiple reports yesterday from the likes of Rick Dollywell, Thomas Drantz, Pierre Lebrun that suggested the Canucks were looking to unload more contracts this offseason and that players like Elias Pettersson, Brock Besser, and Jake DeBrusque were available to be traded.
Now, that DeBrusque is available is no surprise. He probably made himself available, given his hints last season that he didn't really want to be part of a rebuild. Well... He's sure in one now.
The situation with Pedersen and Besser is a little different because despite what was said publicly, we weren't really sure what the Canucks were thinking with those two or what those two were thinking about their future with the Vancouver Canucks.
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Chapter 4: What strategies should Canada use to break down Qatar's defense?
LeBron went on Edmonton Radio and said the Canucks, quote, want to tear it all down. He also said, and I think this is very important, that this is news, if he's right. I'm leaning in.
That he thinks the Canucks would be willing to retain salary on a Pedersen trade, which is something that's thought to have been a non-starter under the previous regime, which, of course, signed Pedersen to his current contract. Not too long ago, but right around the time Pedersen's game fell off a cliff.
LeBron did qualify that a team he spoke with wasn't sure that they could get Pedersen back to a level that would justify a trade, even with salary retained. And that makes sense because nobody's sure if Pedersen will ever rediscover his form. It's a bizarre situation with him, and it would take a big gamble to pick up his contract, even at a discount because of how long the contract is.
But at the same time, the payoff could be huge if a change of scenery reignites something in him. I just want to get through a few things here. Yeah, go ahead, man. We haven't spoken as much about Besser yet. who just a year ago looked like he would be signing elsewhere.
But you'll remember the Canucks struck out in free agency and came back to Besser's camp with an offer that he signed on July 1st. And here we are today, and the Canucks are apparently looking to move that contract. So why are the Canucks trying to move these players? Well, lots of reasons. One is that they want to change the culture.
And to change the culture, you often have to change the personnel, especially the highest paid personnel. They also want to bring in some new players and give those guys an opportunity, whether those are young players or... High character veterans they sign in free agency or acquire in trades. Finally, you have to wonder if at least some of this has to do with saving money. Sure. The Canucks.
Sounds like they're going to be running a pretty lean operation over the next few years. Sorry, Drancer, but. I don't think they're going to be going out and spending crazy money in free agency. Yes, they still need to hit the salary cap floor, but they also need the budget space to go out and acquire new players. Okay, so...
The big news yesterday really was that, you know, the Canucks want to keep dismantling. And they might even be willing to retain salary on Elias Pettersson, which, again, if LeBron is right on this, that's news. Can we just pause a moment and appreciate what a... massive indictment this change, of course, represents. I'm willing to pause and reflect.
I really want everyone to stop and think about what the Sedins and Ryan Johnson must have been thinking about this team over the last few years, even though they worked for the team. They weren't making the decisions. They've already basically said it without actually saying it, but... Bad culture, bad leaders, not involved enough in the community, not a team the fans could be proud of.
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Chapter 5: What is the current status of Alphonso Davies for the match?
They're already retaining on Tyler Myers for next season. Sometimes you need those slots. Sometimes you need them for, I don't know, not too long, but the trade deadline, right? Okay, we'll retain for the rest of the year, right? I do not see them retaining on Besser and Pedersen. And frankly, I still think that they're going to be hesitant to retain.
But if they are willing to retain, that just says so much about how they think like some guys just like, no, we got to move on from this player. How awkward is that going to be, though, if they can't trade these guys that they're like, we want to move on from? Could they maybe build like a separate dressing room for the players who aren't going to help build the new culture?
More renovations?
But also aren't movable? I mean, I don't want to use the word shun. And I don't think they need to wear a scarlet letter or anything, but... Okay, never mind. That's a bad idea. If they're part of the team, they're part of the team. But I'm just trying to... I'm just throwing out these ideas, okay? I'm an ideas guy. Just trying to come up with stuff.
RJ listing fiercely scribbling down notes.
Scarlet letter. I mean, they can't buy Pedersen out. The contract is... it's buyout proof for, and, and like, they're not going to do that. And he, they shouldn't have to. Okay.
With, with all the teams out there looking for centers and if they are willing to retain salary, you know, they, they should be able, I guess they should be able to, to trade them depending how much salary they are willing to retain. But if they ultimately don't decide to do that and they've tried it so many times, like, It's not going to get any more normal with Pettersson.
Okay, here's my thinking on this. And I do believe that the previous regime, in part because it was their signatures, like, you know, theatrically speaking here, on the Pettersson contract, right?
They were the ones that strong-armed him into it.
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Chapter 6: How is Jonathan David performing leading up to the match?
I honestly don't think we're critical enough of Jim Rutherford and what he did.
Yeah, we just don't have the bandwidth for it this morning. It is crazy. Because we're trying to look forward. We're ideas guys now, right? We're trying to figure out how we can help this thing along.
I think the previous regime was always convinced that they made the right move with Pedersen, that the contract wasn't an anchor, and that when they entered into these contract negotiations, sorry, trade negotiations and talks with other teams, It was never about freeing themselves from Pedersen.
It was always about what are we going to get back in return and what, you know, how tangible an asset is this for us in a trade? You know what I'm saying? Like they never viewed it as we need to get rid of this because in part, I think there was some hubris involved.
Absolutely. Absolutely. They'd have to admit they made a mistake then.
I think the new regime is freed from all of those ties. Mm-hmm. And you know what I thought about when you were going through all of these different notes from yesterday was what Shana Goldman said on our show yesterday about Darnell Nurse, talking about his ticket and how the Oilers might have to retain.
And she's like, you know, if you can break down his game into a sort of... And you can compartmentalize the parts of what he's decent at, you could make an argument that his ability to skate and his strength and his reach... He becomes a viable 4-5 defenseman at a reasonable ticket if you retain some of the money.
And I thought, can you apply that same logic to Pedersen with some other teams right now? Like, hey, we know at 11.6... That's a lot to swallow. But at a reduced rate, can you talk yourself into a guy that's probably going to give you 50 to 60 points, is going to play reasonably sound defensive hockey, and might rebound even a little bit more?
I just want to throw something out there. Because if you go on the premise of Pettersson goes to a team and he's the third line center, right? So is that your premise? Maybe it's two. Okay. But let's say he's the third line center.
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Chapter 7: What are the expectations for Canada's performance against Qatar?
I think you need to look at this in terms of the damage that he might do being around the group and what the Sedins and Johnson have talked about in terms of culture, work ethic, habits, preparation, and what they want this group to be. I'll even go so far as to say this might not even necessarily be just solely a Pedersen problem.
I think, to your earlier point, they want to gut this thing like a fish. And I know I've used that before, because I've said it before, but when the team is this lost... and has so little soul and spirit and heartbeat to it, sometimes you need to do major surgery, and sometimes you need to deal guys at a loss.
I understand that you would be trading him at his lowest ebb, but I also understand that in order to truly move forward with a rebuild, sometimes you just have to say, we're clearing the decks. We're getting rid of it all. And I know this is counterintuitive to a lot of analytical liens who would say, you can't do that. You have to treat every asset as if it's an asset.
But I would push back on that notion.
Also, the Texters assuming Petey will bounce back.
Well, this is the notion that I'll disagree with. What's that? Because this is what we heard last year or previous times when there's been considerations of trading Pettersson. Well, his value can't get any lower. Yes, it can. There is downside risk. If you can actually trade him this offseason, then I think they should do it. Because if you wait and you're like, let's wait and recover his value.
How the hell is his value going to recover on this team? I mean, Adog, you're talking about the, you know, he's never played with any good wingers.
this team now well yeah but if you trade him then maybe he will you're not getting my point you just kind of came in too late there but i'm talking about if you keep him if you keep him people seem like oh well his value is going to go up not necessarily his value might go down even more where it's like No chance he's traded. Like, no chance. Oh, I agree with you about that. Like, none.
Yeah, I totally agree. And you're not getting out of it no way. You know? Like, it could get to that point.
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Chapter 8: How does the episode conclude regarding the match's significance?
That's the next number.
It's Homer with the pumpkin stock.
From one Vancouver franchise player to another, we now turn our attention to what happened last night at the PWHL draft. The Vancouver Golden Eyes have a new franchise player.
Caroline Harvey the first overall pick at the 2026 PWHL draft yesterday the 23 year old Harvey widely considered the best player in this draft class and appropriately she went first overall the first defender to be selected number one overall in PWHL history now for a little more analysis on this pick let's turn our attention to the number two pick taken by Seattle this is Abby Murphy out of the University of Minnesota a rival of Caroline Harvey's
in NCAA hockey this is from the spit and chiclets podcast with Ryan Whitney here's Abby Murphy talking about the newest member of the Vancouver Golden Eyes Caroline Harvey Caroline Harvey to me like I was like holy like seeing her skate I know you guys are both oh two she's a rival at Wisconsin but how long have you kind of known her and realized like she has to be the best skating women's player right yeah
Yeah, dude, she's insane. I mean, she's on a whole nother level. You know, whoever taught her how to skate's got to get a hell of a lot of other people to learn from them. But just the way she moves and her agility is incredible. I mean, when I watch her like work on the blue line, it's like putting people literally in blenders like back and forth.
It's like they literally cannot keep up with her. But she's so impressive up there, you know, like watching her with the puck. It's like, yep, let her do her thing. And then something's going to happen out of it. And it's just going to be like, holy, like she just did that. Like her goal against the Swiss. I don't know if you guys saw that.
Yeah.
absolutely just down the wall made the goalie look like an idiot just like she's like Quinn Hughes like it was the same way like just such a better skater than everyone else and it's not even matched either like it's it's here to here so props to her but love playing with her hate playing against her you know so really cool
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