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Halford & Brough in the Morning

Drancer Talks Canucks + What We Learned

12 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.25 - 47.539

What we just have to call Thomas Grant's erotica. Smoke. Thomas Grant's erotica. Cozy. Thomas Grant's erotica. Expected goals. Thomas Grant's erotica. 803 on a Friday. Yeah, Thomas Drance on a Friday.

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47.639 - 65.965 Mike Halford

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66.805 - 86.991 Mike Halford

This spot normally reserved for Rick Dollywall, a more than adequate pinch hitter today. Thomas Drance from The Athletic is going to join us in just a moment here. Hour three of this program is brought to you by the BC Construction Safety Alliance, making safety simpler by giving construction companies the best in tools, resources, and safety training. Visit them online at bccsa.ca.

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87.308 - 108.342 Jason Brough

We are coming to you live from the Kintec studio. Step strong with orthotics and footwear from Kintec. Does Drance have, you know, we all cheer for Canada, this World Cup, Canada, number one. But you and I also support England. I think Brendan Batchelor does as well. I made a big decision on that, by the way. Does Drance have a team?

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108.602 - 112.709 Mike Halford

I'm shelving the England gear until Canada gets eliminated.

Chapter 2: How does Thomas Drance analyze the Canucks' recent performance?

113.169 - 113.83 Jason Brough

That's a good call.

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113.87 - 114.852 Mike Halford

Canada only.

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114.832 - 120.318 Jason Brough

I'm not, because if I'm going to a bar to watch England, I'm wearing my England stuff. Limey coward.

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120.558 - 132.631 Mike Halford

Okay, let's go to the Able Actions hotline now. We're going to ask Drance. Thomas Drance from The Athletic Vancouver joins us now on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. What up, Drance? Answer the question, please.

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133.292 - 167.036 Thomas Drance

Yeah, England as well. I mean, you know, my... Grandmother was from Lincoln. Lincoln, Nebraska? Oh, yeah. Cool Huskers. Lincoln, sure. And her dad, so my great-grandfather, who I never met, was like a... very high level player, you know, bat back like a hundred years ago, like for a club team that like might've become Lincoln FC with the weird dwarf.

168.338 - 177.897 Thomas Drance

But yeah, so the, I think it's an imp actually, I think it's an imp logo. But yeah, so yeah, no, I yeah. So I'm, I'm,

178.079 - 193.861 Thomas Drance

very standard Vancouverite I cheer for England usually at the World Cup and I like the idea of just cheering for Canada outright until they go out this time now that it's like a serious team and the World Cup sort of qualifying round is kind of watered down making it pretty easy to advance.

195.123 - 201.191 Thomas Drance

I think we're now just expecting like we're expecting Canada to play elimination games this time for the first time.

201.291 - 211.844 Jason Brough

That would be a massive disappointment if they can't get out of this group. Okay, who is this guy, Richard Seeley, that the Canucks just hired?

Chapter 3: What insights does Drance provide about the Canucks' new hires?

968.628 - 987.318 Thomas Drance

But the fundamental takeaway is that a second liner is worth a flat amount, regardless of whether they play wing or center. And that kind of holds across different bands. Like we don't pay centers more than we pay wingers. We don't pay right-handed defensemen much more than we pay left-handed defensemen. This isn't like left tackles and wide receivers versus running backs and linebackers.

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987.619 - 1007.727 Thomas Drance

Like we have to stop good players, good players, not positional premiums, good players, not centers, good players. And I think if there's a chance that you can get a better player out of Patterson on the wing than the third line caliber center we've seen him play like at center, I think that's worth a shot, especially if you're going into this season with like options.

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1008.128 - 1013.135 Thomas Drance

If you're going into this season sort of relatively set in terms of NHL level center depth.

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1013.936 - 1023.368 Mike Halford

We're speaking to Thomas Drance from the Athletic Vancouver and Canucks talk here on the Halford and Breff show on Sportsnet 650. I only ask and throw you on the spot, Thomas, because I know there's no throwing Thomas Drance on the spot.

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1023.787 - 1024.047 Thomas Drance

Yep.

1024.868 - 1041.566 Mike Halford

Jake DeBrusque. And we'll talk about one, the potential move to Ottawa, I suppose. We had a lot of people texting and asking what a return would be. And I'm not going to lie. I had no idea what it would look like because I don't know how much of the value in the trade is getting off the contract.

1042.106 - 1048.413 Jason Brough

Alfred was like, that might require me to think about Jake DeBrusque for 10 minutes. And I can just ask Drance because I'm sure he's done the work.

1048.433 - 1049.354 Mike Halford

I was not willing to do it.

1050.575 - 1068.981 Thomas Drance

I'm still not. Drance, go ahead. Yeah, I mean, you know what? I have thought about it only a little bit, to be honest with you. I probably will do a deep dive at some point and come up with something more interesting. The Jake DeBrusque return, I would still expect you to get an asset, maybe a player in an asset.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of budgeting in the Canucks' management?

1931.257 - 1934.882 Jason Brough

Who is the best player in Mexican history?

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1937.426 - 1939.929 Mike Halford

Cuetmo Blanco was one of them back in the day.

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1940.55 - 1967.814 Jason Brough

Hugo Sanchez. Hugo Sanchez was in the mix. So has any player from Mexico ever been a top five player in the world? No. No. Never. That's got to be part of it. I mean, okay. So, like, never having, like... Rafa Marquez was one, too. Superstar guy, but also maybe not having... Chicharito? Maybe not having the depth that some of the other teams... I'm just trying to rack my brain. I know.

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1967.834 - 1972.441 Jason Brough

You just want to say... Chicharito. But a top five player... What's his name?

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1972.461 - 1989.668 Mike Halford

Chicharito? Okay, here's... Chicharito. Okay. To counter your argument, there's lots of countries that haven't had a top five player ever. Google also says it's Hugo Sanchez. Hugo Sanchez is one of them, yeah. A lot of countries haven't had a top five player currently going.

1989.868 - 1990.77 Jason Brough

And they've won the World Cup?

1991.15 - 1993.515 Mike Halford

No, but they made it, like, into the semifinals.

1993.795 - 2000.647 Jason Brough

Right. Right? Mexico hasn't made it to the semifinals. The furthest Mexico has ever gone is the quarterfinals, and both of those came when they were hosting.

2000.667 - 2001.649 Mike Halford

Yeah.

Chapter 5: How does the Canucks' coaching staff impact player performance?

2107.709 - 2115.998 Jason Brough

You know, you can compete with your buddies and have a match. I don't feel like I can fully compete in hockey anymore.

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2116.439 - 2117.16 Mike Halford

Yeah, that's fair.

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2117.18 - 2136.694 Jason Brough

Especially against some of the young kids that I'm playing. Like I can't even catch them to like slash them, you know? Do you ever play golf for money? Not really. Yeah. Because for me, losing a match without money on the line, I'm still going to be pissed.

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2136.714 - 2151.442 Mike Halford

So there's this great backstory about when Michael Jordan really got into golf. And then everyone was like, oh, he's the ultimate competitor. And golf was the toughest challenge, and he wanted to master it. And I was like, there's a tiny part you're leaving out. It's that Michael Jordan also loved gambling.

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2151.502 - 2151.722 Jason Brough

Yeah.

2151.942 - 2153.525 Mike Halford

He loved, like, that was golf for him.

2153.545 - 2154.947 Jason Brough

These guys just love the action.

2155.087 - 2158.912 Mike Halford

Yeah, that was golf for him. Golf was another vehicle to gamble.

2159.253 - 2159.493 Jason Brough

Yeah.

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