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Halford & Brough in the Morning

...Jim Hiller?

17 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent news did the hosts discuss regarding Jim Hiller?

0.031 - 12.859 Sam Dykstra

You're listening to Halford & Brough.

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18.593 - 25.427 Nick Kypreos

To me, Connor Hellebuck is a very intriguing name that we're going to start hearing a lot of rumblings around.

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25.628 - 28.955 Tony Orlando

Oh my God! Okay, it's happening. Everybody stay calm.

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29.716 - 39.336 Nick Kypreos

Springer hits it a long way to left and it's gone! Career home run number 300 for George Springer.

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41.105 - 52.884 Mike Halford

Good morning, Vancouver. 601 on a Wednesday. Happy Wednesday, everybody. It is Halford. It is Brough. It is Sportsnet 650. We are coming to you live from the Kintec Studios in beautiful Mount Pleasant in Vancouver. Jason, good morning.

52.964 - 53.405 Sam Dykstra

Good morning.

53.666 - 70.37 Mike Halford

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70.45 - 81.726 Mike Halford

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Chapter 2: How did the hosts react to Jim Hiller being named head coach?

81.706 - 97.469 Sam Dykstra

We're coming to you live from the Kintec studios. Step strong with orthotics and footwear from Kintec. If you want to text into the show today, maybe some sort of text like Jim Hiller is going to be the next coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

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97.489 - 104.119 Mike Halford

Jim Hiller? That's our version of breaking news, and we don't really want to make it breaking news, but it's kind of breaking news.

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104.099 - 119.593 Sam Dykstra

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119.573 - 131.25 Mike Halford

Okay. We got a big show ahead and we got a big guest list as well. It's the Duik morning drive brought to you by the Duik auto group. It begins at six 30 this morning. I guess we have a new question to ask David Amber. Yeah.

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131.59 - 134.514 Sam Dykstra

NHL host. The question is just like Jim Hiller.

134.815 - 152.386 Mike Halford

That's it. Just put a question mark at the end of it. Why? David Amber is going to join us at 630 Sportsnet NHL host. The Stanley Cup final has been handed out. The offseason has begun. Lots of things are happening. We will get into all that with David, including the news out of Toronto that Jim Hiller is the new head coach at 630.

152.406 - 170.539 Mike Halford

7 o'clock, Frank Cervalli is going to join the program, our NHL insider. From Victory Plus, a couple of trades yesterday, including the Toronto Maple Leafs. Lots to get into with Frank as well. There's a lot of rumblings going on. The silly season feels like it started in the National Hockey League. Frank is going to join us at 7.

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7.30, James Sharman, soccer analyst at Sportsnet and the Footy Prime podcast is going to join the program. We are on the eve of Canada. Qatar kicks off tomorrow. We will preview a James, but we also must look back on a truly unforgettable Tuesday at the world cup. What a day it was big day, big stars yesterday. James is going to join us at seven 38 o'clock.

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Shana Goldman's going to join the program. NHL writer for the Athletic Hockey Heavy Show today. Appropriately so. There's a lot going on. Shane is going to join us at 8. Finally, really quick, another giveaway today. Actually, two giveaways today. We're giving away two pairs of tickets to the Outdoorsman and Conservation Festival. It is in Squamish from June 26th to 27th.

Chapter 3: What insights did David Amber share about the NHL offseason?

233.749 - 258.693 Mike Halford

We got a lot to get into on the program. So without further ado, Laddie, let's tell everybody what happened. Hey, did you guys see the game last night? No. What happened? I missed all the action because I was... We know how busy your life can be. What happened? You missed that? What happened? What happened is brought to you by ATS Traffic. Safety is not a shortcut you want to take.

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259.053 - 268.735 Mike Halford

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268.715 - 287.685 Sam Dykstra

Okay, let's just start with this breaking news out of Toronto that Jim Hiller has been named the next head coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs. In the press release, general manager John Chayka says, Jim is an experienced coach with a strong understanding of what it takes to win in today's NHL.

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287.665 - 310.849 Sam Dykstra

He has worked with successful teams throughout his career, connects well with players, and brings a clear approach behind the bench. We believe he's the right person to lead our team and help us reach our goals. So there was surprise when John Chayka was named the general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs. There was. I mean, that was controversial.

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311.689 - 315.293 Sam Dykstra

And this one just comes out of left field, right?

317.078 - 339.053 Mike Halford

Hiller's most defining moment as an NHL head coach was his now infamous challenge of Evander Kane's game-tying goal in Game 3 of their first-round series against Edmonton, a series they were leading 2-0 at a series that they went on to lose in what many consider the reason for that challenge call.

339.472 - 353.156 Mike Halford

Now, Jim Hiller lasted two-plus years on the job, I want to say, in Los Angeles before he was ultimately fired this year, replaced by DJ Smith. He came on in an interim role, you'll remember, for Todd McClellan.

353.176 - 354.679 Tony Orlando

93, 58, and 24.

354.96 - 379.907 Mike Halford

He kind of coached his way into an extra year on the job. I remember thinking that I was surprised that he stuck around for as long as he did. Look, sometimes when we react to things in the moment, we can be a bit caustic. Sure. A bit sarcastic. I understand that. But this hire. Who, us? With all of the coaches around A-Dog, feels like an underwhelming selection of

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Jim Hiller's coaching style for the Maple Leafs?

485.427 - 505.941 Mike Halford

He had four goals yesterday. Yeah. Big advertisement for MLS product, Lionel Messi, as they call him in America, scoring the hat trick yesterday. So just consider what he accomplished yesterday. Having played in multiple World Cups and won and played deep into tournaments, that was his first ever World Cup hat trick. A loser.

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506.322 - 523.223 Mike Halford

Yeah, that now ties him with legendary German striker Miroslav Klose for all-time World Cup goals. He now ties the record with 16. It also made him the first player to compete in six World Cups, although... Cristiano Ronaldo is going to do that today.

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523.283 - 543.392 Mike Halford

And by the way, if you're a betting person and you can find the shot attempts total for Cristiano Ronaldo today, he's going to be shooting from everywhere. The number could not be high enough. Let me just tell you. So it truly was an amazing day at what's been a fantastic World Cup.

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543.372 - 572.755 Mike Halford

thus far I remember yesterday we were talking about what was on the slate actually it was when we were doing the one to watch brought to you by Limitless AV and I said make Messi at 6pm your one to watch because that could cap off a really incredible day because you had Mbappe in the first game Holland in the second game Messi in the third game Austria and Jordan in the fourth game which was actually kind of entertaining but it had the potential to be a really special day I don't think you could have scripted two goals from Mbappe

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573.072 - 596.835 Mike Halford

surpassing Pele on the World Cup leaderboard list in terms of goals in the process. Erling Haaland on his World Cup debut scoring twice, and then Messi looking at that and saying, you know, hold my cerveza. We now have something else in store for the global footballing world. And it was a sight to watch him pick apart Algeria. I felt...

596.815 - 605.893 Mike Halford

Pretty bad for the Algerian keeper, who, by the way... Oh, he was probably like, that was pretty awesome, actually. Do you know who that was? No. That was Zidane's son. Oh, okay.

605.913 - 607.937 Sam Dykstra

Lucas Zidane. I didn't know that was his son.

607.977 - 628.694 Mike Halford

He represented France at the youth levels and then recently made a switch to Algeria and actually played really well in qualifying and was a big reason why Algeria got through He had a tough one yesterday, in large part because Messi and the Argentinian attack was pretty ruthless and efficient. It was... I hate just throwing out adjectives when you say it was a remarkable day.

628.714 - 651.26 Mike Halford

It was a fascinating day. It was an unforgettable day. But all... All those do the job for you because it's really hard to put into context how rare it is for all three stars to show up and then in chronological order kind of outdo one another. I know Erling Haaland didn't really outdo Mbappe, but he matched it at the very least. He could have had a hat trick, too. He could have.

Chapter 5: How did Mitch Marner address his mental health challenges?

777.847 - 779.509 Mike Halford

Connor Hellebuck's name came up right away.

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780.01 - 798.426 Nick Kypreos

I'm going to stay in Canada here and I'm going to go to Winnipeg, Manitoba and Connor Hellebuck. Certainly there seems to be a lot of noise around this player in terms of where his head's at right now with Winnipeg. Other teams are watching closely.

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798.446 - 824.226 Nick Kypreos

I don't know where this ends up, but to me, that's a name that is stirring the NHL world up in terms of potential situations where he could be shopped. Maybe he's not. Do they need to come out and formally say no? Will they? To me, Connor Hellebuck is a very intriguing name that we're going to start hearing a lot of rumblings around.

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824.206 - 831.534 Sam Dykstra

Okay, so regardless, Florida has to do something when it comes to goaltenders. Correct. Right?

832.475 - 841.926 Mike Halford

It sounds like the divorce between the Florida Panthers and Sergei Bobrovsky is underway. Okay. They're meeting with lawyers. They're trying to figure things out.

842.246 - 850.591 Sam Dykstra

Well, he's 37 years old and he's out of contract. And they also don't have... an NHL backup under contract.

Chapter 6: What criticism did Mitch Marner face during his time in Toronto?

850.951 - 876.867 Sam Dykstra

So it's got to be, it's got to be someone. So maybe it's Hellebuck. Maybe it's, maybe it's Jordan Binnington. There's an out of St. Louis. St. Louis is always involved in trade rumors and we're hearing the Jordan Cairo trade rumors for the millionth time. So there's got to be something done there. Now, There was a goalie traded yesterday. Two goalies traded, as a matter of fact. Okay.

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877.107 - 879.713 Sam Dykstra

Tell us about this trade between Toronto and Philadelphia.

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879.893 - 906.38 Mike Halford

The Philadelphia Flyers acquired former Toronto Maple Leafs goalie Joseph Wall and defenseman Simon Benoit in a trade yesterday. Philadelphia sends to Toronto Samuel Ederson. defenseman Emil Andre, and a third-round pick in the draft next week. When I jumped on to get the analysis of this trade, almost universally, everyone said, this is a weird one, and we're not sure what to make of this.

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907.141 - 923.529 Mike Halford

The Athletic this morning, in the article I was reading, said that it was a bit of a dice roll from John Shika. Now, Laddie, you said in a quip earlier in the program that the Leafs have gone out and acquired the worst goalie in the NHL. Please explain a little further.

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923.79 - 935.952 Tony Orlando

Well, I've gone on the record saying that Arison might be the worst goalie in the NHL getting heavy minutes. Like, if you look at his numbers, he's played 30-plus games the last three years at least, and he's cost his team almost 20 goals.

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Yeah.

936.914 - 941.425 Tony Orlando

Negative 19.3 goals saved above average. Like, he's just pitiful.

941.725 - 946.697 Mike Halford

So who are the Leafs goalies right now? Stolarz? Stolarz and Ederson. You need to roll the R on him.

946.817 - 965.732 Tony Orlando

Hildeby is there. He had a good year. And they have a kid in the minors right now as well. But still... I feel like injuries and like Stolarz can't stay healthy for an entire season. So you're going to be relying on your third goalie at least. Harrison's going to get some playing time there. And it just, assuming they sign him, he's an RFA, who knows what they want to do.

Chapter 7: How can teams better prepare young players for public scrutiny?

970.883 - 983.98 Tony Orlando

Man, if they decide to use him over a young, you know, 27-year-old goalie just getting into his prime, a guy who's highly touted like in Joseph Wall, just a complete head-scratcher for him.

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984 - 985.402 Sam Dykstra

They're going to sign him, right?

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985.642 - 986.323 Tony Orlando

I would assume so.

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986.343 - 991.85 Sam Dykstra

I would assume if they acquired him because Philly could have just walked away. Yeah. Right? It might be a contracts thing, too.

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992.01 - 996.976 Tony Orlando

Sometimes when you make a deal, you have to have a certain number of contracts. If you're over, they might have to take a player that they just let go.

996.996 - 998.258 Sam Dykstra

He's not even under contract.

998.845 - 1001.431 Tony Orlando

But it still counts towards this year's limits, I believe.

1001.451 - 1024.526 Mike Halford

So I've got the explainer from Shika, by the way. He said, quote, what we like about this opportunity. That's what you have to call it, not a trade. It's an opportunity. It allows us to create some flexibility. We think flexibility and optionality are assets to any great organization. And certainly this allows us to be in a better spot as we think about the entire offseason plan.

1024.847 - 1031.736 Mike Halford

I guess getting Wall's money off the books and whatever Benoit had left was all about just clearing as much space as they could. I don't know.

Chapter 8: What lessons can be learned from the discussions around social media's impact on athletes?

1065.052 - 1092.218 Sam Dykstra

Brandon Carlo's got one year left. He's 29, but... I think him and a lot of other Leafs had rough seasons, and that's kind of it. That's their blue line. That's your blue line. That's it. That's the tweet. That's why I go like, you're not going to take a step back. There's going to be nothing. You're just going to try and be competitive. How are you going to fix that?

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1092.198 - 1110.375 Mike Halford

I think, John, in this first summer as the general manager, I do wonder if he's going to try and galaxy brain this thing and have these big, confusing moves that he sees as we're going to do this and we're going to try and fix the blue line through unconventional means and matters. John, shake a galaxy.

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1110.355 - 1130.738 Mike Halford

braining one move and it'll work for sure right one move never you'll love this a dog one move never exists in a vacuum they all lead to another bigger you know picture plan that he's got going here i feel like that's what this was is that the leafs playing the 131 under jim heller No, I'm not joking. I'm not joking either. I'm laughing because it could be it.

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1130.978 - 1137.167 Sam Dykstra

Yeah, because he did say when he took the job, he's like, there are certain things that I want the team to do differently.

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1137.187 - 1137.968 Mike Halford

Yeah, stylistically.

1138.169 - 1163.548 Sam Dykstra

Stylistically. And he said, you know, breaking the puck out of their zone. I was like, can Jim Hiller help you do that? Because I'm looking at this blue line right now, and we all love Chris Tanev here in Vancouver, but... He's 36 years old, and I don't know if there's a player in the NHL that has more mileage on his body than Chris Tanev. Maybe Mark Stone. Maybe.

1163.588 - 1177.867 Sam Dykstra

But I would probably give it to Tanev with all the shots he blocks and just the way that he plays. Yeah. I mean, it's a really big challenge.

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Mm-hmm.

1178.007 - 1180.21 Sam Dykstra

And I'll be very curious to see how he does.

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