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Halford & Brough in the Morning

Not Quite Enough Versus The Swiss

25 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 20.617 Sam Dykstra

You're listening to Halford and Brough.

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It's time for time instead.

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23.183 - 31.351 Mike Babcock

You know, I'm real comfortable with the group we're going to have here surrounding me. I'm real comfortable with the management team. I'm comfortable with the interaction I've had with the players.

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33.217 - 34.662 Aaron Portsline

Okay, America, inspire me.

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34.793 - 56.869 Sam Dykstra

always mess with happiness because you could be happier okay look i have a problem with hopes and dreams okay yeah of course generally against hopes and dreams don't have gratitude it's true don't because the grass is always greener there's one on the other side i hope you learned your lesson lisa never help anyone

58.351 - 75.03 Mike Halford

Good morning, Vancouver. 6.01 on a Thursday. Happy Thursday, everybody. It is Halford. It is Brough. It is Sportsnet 650. We are coming to you live from the Kintec Studios in beautiful Mount Pleasant in Vancouver. Jason, good morning. Good morning. Adog, good morning to you. Good morning. The regular Zach, good morning to you as well. Good morning.

75.05 - 93.654 Mike Halford

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94.215 - 99.503 Mike Halford

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100.064 - 121.332 Sam Dykstra

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Chapter 2: What happened in Canada's World Cup match against Switzerland?

842.303 - 867.155 Sam Dykstra

Okay, I want to bang through a bunch of other questions. Yeah, man. Did Canada reach expectations in the group stage? Because... To their credit, despite some key injuries, they avoided the ultimate disaster and they did qualify for the knockout stage. That was always in the back of our minds. Like, oh, we're like, okay, could lose to Bosnia, could have lost to Bosnia and Switzerland.

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867.175 - 887.67 Sam Dykstra

Then you're on three points and then you're hoping, right? There's a bunch of teams out there right now with three points that are hoping that three points will be good enough. I mean, they could have drawn with Qatar, right? Switzerland did. They also, Canada, also notched their first draw and first win ever at the World Cup.

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887.69 - 915.081 Sam Dykstra

I think it's enough to say, I think they did enough to say that they reached expectations. But you wouldn't say they exceeded them. And that's fine. Yesterday, to me... felt like a reminder that Canada is still so new to tournament football at the top level on the men's side. Switzerland was like the wily vet that's been there and done that. No superstars.

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915.061 - 934.468 Sam Dykstra

But this is a country that's qualified for the last six World Cups and made the round of 16 in the last three of them. Granted, in Qatar, they got blown out by Portugal in the round of 16, but they got there. They were in the round of 16. Canada wasn't in the round of 16 in Qatar. Canada didn't even win a game.

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934.488 - 954.657 Mike Halford

Okay, so expectations. This is going to sound weird, but work with me here. I think going into yesterday, a lot of people felt that Canada were on the verge of something potentially big. And so the expectation became to exceed expectations. I think that's what yesterday was. Sure. Ultimately. Sure. Yeah.

955.058 - 977.353 Mike Halford

Yesterday was all got moved when they had the opportunity against Switzerland and the absolute destruction of Qatar. You know, so yesterday going into that match, the energy around BC place and in BC place was very much. You have an, you have a very difficult task ahead of you, but the opportunity is so large and so big.

977.493 - 1003.27 Mike Halford

And look, everyone there knew that a win meant they were staying at BC place for that round of 32 match. the expectation became to exceed expectations. And then when the match started, it turned very quickly because you could see how composed the Swiss team was and they just weren't phased by the pressure, the speed, the aggression of Canada like Bosnia were and like Qatar were.

1003.69 - 1007.376 Mike Halford

And there was a big difference in the tone and tenor and energy of the match.

1007.396 - 1010.02 Sam Dykstra

I think Qatar got really rattled by...

Chapter 3: How did injuries affect Canada's performance in the World Cup?

1262.189 - 1288.204 Sam Dykstra

We got a few cards up our sleeves, first of all. We're going to make some subs. We'll bring some energy guys on. Alphonso Davies is going to come on. So he got excited for that. I got excited for that. That was my expectations. And look, he wasn't devastated by it. I'm not saying we were like, that's outrageous. He lied to the boy, right? I'm not taking it that far. Sure.

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1288.184 - 1299.503 Sam Dykstra

It is kind of like you go to the game and you're like, when is Davies coming on? When is Davies coming on? I imagine there was a lot of people, but he didn't even look like... He didn't even pretend that he was going to play yesterday. I don't think he warmed up at all.

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1299.543 - 1317.773 Mike Halford

There was a we want Davies chant in my section, just to put that in perspective. So... There's another part of this, too, and it's that Davies now has been thrust, and I put this on the gaffer, to be honest. He's thrust into a situation where people want to talk to him and want to figure out what's going on.

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1318.233 - 1318.474 Sam Dykstra

Right.

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1318.654 - 1320.016 Mike Halford

And he's not willing to do it.

1320.177 - 1344.273 Sam Dykstra

Can I read a paragraph that Patrick Johnston wrote in the province yesterday? Yep. And Peej was there covering the game. And, you know, he was writing about all these questions that we've got about Alphonso Davies. And he writes, we'd asked Davies, Canada's captain, about all this, but he didn't stop to speak to anyone in the mix zone after Wednesday's match.

1344.754 - 1357.527 Sam Dykstra

He simply had his phone pressed to his ear. Whether he was actually talking to anyone or not didn't matter. The message was clear. He didn't want to talk.

1357.591 - 1359.233 Jamie Dodd

First of all, I do that trick all the time.

1359.273 - 1381.084 Sam Dykstra

If Davies used the fake phone call to avoid talking to the media, I got to respect it. Big ups to Alphonso Davies for that move. I use it throughout my entire life. I used it yesterday. But it doesn't make me overly optimistic about his chances of playing on Sunday. And that's another thing about losing that match to Switzerland. Yeah, Canada advances, but two things. Number one,

Chapter 4: What were the main criticisms of Canada's tactical approach?

1674.489 - 1696.539 Sam Dykstra

Now, the Dutch are getting screwed in this. Yep. Okay? Yep. So they've only played two games, but they're probably going to finish top of the group. But regardless, I think... They're going to either get Morocco or Brazil. Yep. It's most likely Morocco. So Morocco, very good team as we saw in the last World Cup.

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1696.699 - 1700.804 Mike Halford

I think it's clinch. Morocco's clinch in that spot and the Netherlands are the little likeliest to be in there. But regardless.

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1700.824 - 1716.065 Sam Dykstra

But I think if even Netherlands finish second in their group, they're going to play Brazil. Yep. Right? Yep. So that's pretty tough, right? You do well. You win your games in the group stage. You clinch. You clinch away into the knockout stage after two games and you're getting either Morocco or Brazil.

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1716.877 - 1739.366 Sam Dykstra

And then Canada and South Africa get each other, right? So I tweet out, the Dutch got screwed and Canada got a gift. Somehow, while I was sleeping, somehow... My tweet went viral in South Africa.

1739.686 - 1753.246 Mike Halford

So there's a radio DJ named Mo Flava in Johannesburg. Yes. And that was the one that kind of kicked this off. He's got close to a million followers on X, and he found your tweet, and it's gone super viral in South Africa.

1753.306 - 1778.159 Sam Dykstra

And I got to say, the South Africans are... They're reasonable. Honestly, they are. With their responses, they're not as bad as some NHL fans. They'll be like, we've bookmarked your tweet for Sunday. I'm like, that's fair enough. But this tweet has 1.2 million views. 1.2 million views. I was like, what the? I looked at it this morning.

1778.179 - 1797.86 Mike Halford

I was like, what the hell happened here? You should have seen Bruff's face when he sat down this morning, opened his laptop, and looked at his viral tweet from last night. Now one of the most polarizing figures in South Africa, AM Vancouver radio man, Jason Brough. Never would I thought I'd seen the day, but here we are.

1798.501 - 1805.151 Sam Dykstra

Welcome to Infamy, friend. Sometimes I was like, I'm going to lean into this, but I'm like, I don't really want to mess with South Africa right now.

Chapter 5: How did Mike Babcock's coaching style impact team dynamics?

2021.756 - 2033.59 Aaron Portsline

That's not a surprise, but to me the biggest concern. If I'm an Edmonton player, if I'm an Edmonton fan, that this guy seems to have learned absolutely zero other than how to blame other people.

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2034.228 - 2044.299 Sam Dykstra

Yeah, well, speaking of that, what did you think of his statement about the staff not being aligned? What did that even mean?

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2045.5 - 2071.286 Aaron Portsline

Well, that means they didn't have his back. Right, exactly. That means you're supposed to stick up for me. You're supposed to say, no, no, he does what he does, okay, because he's a good hockey coach and we're going to win. So all of these control issues – that he has and the abuse that that can inflict on other people, you got to put up with it and we're here to support him in that.

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2071.966 - 2095.275 Aaron Portsline

Well, no, right? I mean, come on. And that's what that means. And again, that's not what happened in Columbus. He did not say I got to get out of here because the people around me aren't supporting my coaching style. He did some things that way step over the line. And that's why he resigned before he would have been fired.

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2095.295 - 2113.712 Mike Halford

I imagine that given how long you've been on the beat and how embedded you are and the sources that you have, there's probably a lot that you know about this story that you either can't report or can't say out loud. Appreciating that, what can you tell us about what you know about what Babcock did and maybe how...

2113.692 - 2132.434 Mike Halford

Everyone's glossed over it a little bit too much because it seemed like part of the presser in Edmonton was to put Columbus in the rear view and make it sound like this investigation that the NHL and NHLPA did cleared him or absolved him from the things that happened in Columbus.

2133.415 - 2160.547 Aaron Portsline

Yeah. You know what? I'll be honest with you. This is a weird one because from the moment it happened, the four days before training camp when he resigned from The players had a press conference. They talked, I mean, a little bit about it, no detail. And then after that and ever since, it has been, I'm not going there. We're looking forward. The former GM, Yarmulke Kalina, is now in Buffalo.

2161.368 - 2183.168 Aaron Portsline

John Davidson, who was in charge. Both of those guys apologized to the players, to the fans, said all the right things when Babcock resigned. They've all moved on now. Davidson is essentially retired. He still does some broadcast work. He's still a member of an alternate governor, but not in the day-to-day operations of the team.

2184.11 - 2209.312 Aaron Portsline

But it has been so quiet to the point where I've wondered and asked if there are nondisclosure agreements that have been signed. Because no one's talking. Like, zero people are talking. I think there are players still afraid to talk because they don't want to be seen as the one who let stories from the room get out. And I think that's especially a caution that young players have.

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