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Addressing Health in Anxious Times

25 Apr 2025

52 min duration
7404 words
7 speakers
25 Apr 2025
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Stan, Clarence, Barry, and the Health Chatter Team chat about how to address health in anxious times, and explore how uncertainty, stress, and societal challenges shape our public health infrastructure.Join the conversation at healthchatterpodcast.comBrought to you in support of Hue-MAN, who is Creating Healthy Communities through Innovative Partnerships.More about their work can be found at https://www.huemanpartnershipalliance.org/

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

16.298 - 49.466 Stan (Host)

Good morning, everybody in Health Chatter Lab. Welcome to Health Chatter. And today's show is on addressing health in anxious times. And we decided that the Health Chatter crew decided that, all right, we're going to all chime in on this one. So all of us have some ideas and things that we could maybe do. as we proceed with all the changes that are going on in healthcare. So stay tuned on that.

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49.526 - 66.927 Stan (Host)

We've got a great crew that I always introduce, and I like to recognize. Maddie Levine-Wolfe, Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, Matthew Campbell, and Sheridan Nygaard are a crew second to none. I'd put them up against any podcast crew anywhere.

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Chapter 2: How does uncertainty affect public health professionals?

67.328 - 94.788 Stan (Host)

You guys are great. They provide great research for us, marketing, production, recording of shows, the whole nine yards. So thanks to all of you. And they've been with us a long time. So we must be doing something right because they still like us, right? So, all right. And also Clarence Jones is my co-host today. of the show. Clarence is great. We've been working together a long, long time.

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Chapter 3: What challenges do healthcare providers face in anxious times?

94.928 - 121.268 Stan (Host)

Clarence, it's a pleasure. Barry Baines, our medical advisor, he's on the show today. And thank you, Barry, for being with us. Human Partnership is our sponsor for all these shows. Great community health organization. They're doing some really creative things and perhaps even more so. And Clarence can probably touch on this in these anxious times. So stay tuned on that.

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121.568 - 134.868 Stan (Host)

You can check them out at humanpartnershipalliance.org. And you can check us out, healthchatterpodcast.com, for all the shows that we've recorded.

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Chapter 4: How has COVID-19 impacted public health funding?

135.549 - 156.866 Stan (Host)

We have transcripts of shows. We've got the background research on there. And oftentimes we add to that research if more information becomes available. So check us out, healthchatterpodcast.com. All right. I don't like to be anxious, but we are in anxious times.

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157.287 - 185.382 Stan (Host)

And I guess what I'd really like to do is maybe go around the horn here a little bit and ask all of us, you know, what's kind of affecting you the most? and see if there's some commonality, and then we can go from there. So, all right. So let's first start out with Clarence.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of cuts to public health programs?

185.402 - 185.863 Stan (Host)

Go ahead.

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185.903 - 207.528 Clarence Jones

I think for me, the biggest challenge for me right now is uncertainty. And what I mean by that is that in the work that I do, a lot of times the people that I'm working with are uncertain about what they should do. You know, they're not certain about their funding. They're not certain about, you know, what's acceptable.

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207.629 - 221.571 Clarence Jones

I mean, because it just seems like there are so many shifts and changes in, you know, what is appropriate now. And so I'm going to leave it like that. I'm going to be very, very at 10,000 feet, and we can talk a little bit more about it later. Okay.

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221.931 - 222.192 Stan (Host)

All right.

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Chapter 6: How do community organizations respond to health crises?

223.293 - 228.842 Stan (Host)

All right, Matthew, you're in the upper left-hand corner of the screen here, so I'll start with you.

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229.042 - 249.488 Matthew Campbell

Yeah. So I think it's helpful to kind of put in context of like where I came into public health at. You know, I started studying public health like maybe a year before COVID. Then we were immediately in the COVID era. And that really brought an influx of like, you know, money and funds. And then I went to grad school during public health. I mean, during COVID.

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249.508 - 255.356 Matthew Campbell

So it was, you know, there's this huge emphasis on public health. And like, well, we can have some debate about how COVID was managed.

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Chapter 7: What role does mental health play in public health discussions?

255.776 - 271.581 Matthew Campbell

Largely, you know, we knew we had a lot to do. There were a lot of um, excitement. Everyone was wanting to get into the field. How can we help? How can we, you know, that's when we get to see public health really shine in these times of like crisis, if you will. And now we're on the other end of that.

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272.042 - 288.006 Matthew Campbell

And so it's such a, like a, it's, it's very interesting to see that other side and see kind of where we are now of, you know, how do we keep moving forward? And I don't know, like everything, it's a tough time. And as a, you know, a newer grad and a newer, newer to the field, it,

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Chapter 8: What steps can individuals take to advocate for better health policies?

288.239 - 309.413 Matthew Campbell

it's definitely frightening to see. It's like, are nonprofits the place to work anymore? Do you have that job security? How can we still do the good work with also maintaining a personal level of security as well? So it's really balancing all of those things in these like difficult times.

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310.174 - 345.499 Stan (Host)

Yeah, I get it. It's like all of a sudden there's real excitement with regards to a public health issue crisis, namely COVID. And now it's just like, all right. And again, that was, you know, I had mentioned this before, that was not self-inflicted, okay? That came to us, you know, this little COVID critter affected all of us. But yet it brought on public health response,

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346.238 - 359.413 Stan (Host)

And at the same time, some real questions on public health going forward. All right, Barry, you're on.

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359.894 - 382.391 Barry Baines

Yeah, thanks. I have a few of the concerns. And actually, some of them really do hit at a more personal level. And others are a little bit more, I guess, I'm going to join... Clarence at the 10,000 foot level, even though I'm afraid of heights. We'll see where that goes.

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382.712 - 408.544 Barry Baines

But I think some of the things for me is the understanding that health in the United States, health in Minnesota is really global. It's not just local. And so the things I worry about are like drug shortages and As an example for, you know, there are a lot of drugs where there's a shortage.

408.777 - 445.386 Barry Baines

not even thinking or worrying about the impact of tariffs and costs of drugs, which is another whole issue right now, but just an actual shortage of drugs. At a more personal level, not surprisingly being a healthcare provider or former healthcare provider in a direct way, a lot of my contacts are in the health field. And the big anxiety for providers is not only the increased stress of burnout.

445.807 - 464.81 Barry Baines

I think Matthew highlighted like he picked the perfect time to get it. to get into public health just before COVID. But this is just, you know, people have not, in the healthcare field, have not recovered yet from COVID. And this is like piling on.

464.85 - 491.316 Barry Baines

So I'm very worried about increased burnout within, you know, among healthcare providers, doctors, nurses, nursing assistants, just, you know, from top to bottom. And then the other thing is that at a little bit higher level, there are so many people that are losing their jobs in these agencies, more in the public health sphere rather than direct care.

491.515 - 525.606 Barry Baines

that really drive the engines of innovation in our healthcare system. And so one example that I chatted about before we went on air is I have a relative who's receiving cancer treatment. And what's going on now with a lot of the funding for universities where a lot of cancer research really takes place. Like I say, this relative is probably going to be needing to go into clinical trials.

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