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Hello Crawlers - A Dungeon Crawler Carl Podcast

Ep 53: This Inevitable Ruin | Ch 71 - 75

26 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What themes are explored in chapters 71-75 of 'This Inevitable Ruin'?

2.208 - 40.935 Grant Davis

Katya's Nightmare, Rosetta's Quest, Conscripting the Gods, and Laracos Gets Appealing. Hello, crawlers, and welcome to episode 53 of your Dungeon Crawler Carl podcast. It's a little different. I'm used to talking into this camera. And now I'm like, I got to pivot over to the wide one once we cut to the wide.

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41.095 - 46.202 John Rubio

I'm so used to you talking into that camera that it's throwing me off that you're over there talking to that one.

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46.442 - 73.473 Grant Davis

I know. We usually have both of those lined up center. So I'm always just looking at that camera. But now I'm like, okay, for the most part, I'm going to try and talk over here or look at you. but throw me off once again Rubio's out I know He's, uh, he's, he's fine. Just wasn't feeling well. And, uh, he already has way too deep of a voice. So when he's sick, it's just, you can't hear him.

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73.513 - 76.057 Grant Davis

You only just feel it in your chest. He's like Chris.

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76.798 - 79.182 John Rubio

Just a bunch of rumblers.

79.202 - 87.295 Grant Davis

He is a cretin. That's true. Man, he should have just come and just. I know. We just put subtitles on everything he says. Cause we wouldn't know.

87.275 - 95.91 John Rubio

I mean, it would have killed you in the editing, but it would have been hilarious. What's that? Point one out for Rubio.

96.19 - 99.777 Grant Davis

One out for Rubio. We're back with Hat Watch.

99.957 - 100.177 John Rubio

Yeah.

Chapter 2: How do the characters deal with trauma and chaos in the story?

434.468 - 442.178 Grant Davis

Then he says, now real crazy is Grant wearing that Galactics helmet. How dare you?

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442.298 - 445.664 John Rubio

I think you mean ballsy. It's easy to confuse those two.

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445.684 - 470.978 Grant Davis

Sometimes they're one and the same. Yeah. All right. Well, with all of that covered, your homework assignment is going to be book seven, This Inevitable Ruin, chapters 71 through 75. And now let's dive in. We start with part four, the peeling of Laracos, which is kind of a badass name. Sure. It feels like ominous.

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471.078 - 487.013 John Rubio

It does feel ominous. But I don't know. You get everybody. I forget who the crawler was who was so in love with Laracos. Oh, that goes mad? Yeah, it goes mad. And I don't know that we've been introduced to Laracos on that level.

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488.782 - 511.6 Grant Davis

Yeah, it feels like, you know, we saw it's this grandiose funnel city and it feels kind of like that fantasy art from the 70s and 80s. Like people will doing these big illustrations. But yeah, we didn't fall in love, I guess, maybe because we're all through the lens of Carl and he's not that sentimental about it.

511.58 - 526.78 John Rubio

Well, there's that. But, you know, I mean, one, the bottom part's flooded. And then with everything else, it's like, yeah, I'd love to stick around and, you know, take it all in. Except we have a war going on.

527.28 - 529.323 Grant Davis

And that other guy was conscripted, right?

529.904 - 537.033 John Rubio

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're all here to not die. So it's hard to, you know, really enjoy the sights.

537.213 - 563.063 Grant Davis

Yeah, this can go. I mean, I think that. This idea that one could get caught up in the wonder of it and find that so breathtaking that it drives them mad to see the destruction is poetic beauty in the description. But you're right. We didn't see this reflected in our main characters. Yeah. No one was like, holy shit, this is amazing. No one. No one. All right.

Chapter 3: What role does the city of Laracos play in the narrative?

965.19 - 968.933 Grant Davis

Like she had to kill all those people at Meadowlark and felt that pain and guilt and shame.

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968.953 - 969.194 John Rubio

Yeah, yeah.

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969.434 - 986.209 Grant Davis

And then she had to watch all of her other team of people die in the last floor, in the sixth floor, and deal with that when she's trying to be the caretaker for them. And then, you know, there's like an inevitability that all these people around her in this dungeon, some are just going to keep dying.

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986.189 - 1005.919 John Rubio

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, her being such an empath, it makes sense that he would have that connection with her. It would just be coming off of her. The interesting thing is that you mentioned like the deep well of sadness with Mordecai and the rage with Rosetta. And it's like, you don't need to go into their minds to see any of that.

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1005.95 - 1007.251 Grant Davis

Yeah, that's on the surface.

1007.272 - 1008.032 John Rubio

It's on the surface.

1008.253 - 1018.184 Grant Davis

Like, that's being like, oh, I looked into myself and I saw there was rage in there? What? Yeah. Yeah, dude, we know. You're pissed off all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1018.725 - 1024.431 John Rubio

And Mordecai, you know, with his drinking or whatever he's doing, which always been on the floor.

1024.471 - 1025.152 Grant Davis

Yeah.

Chapter 4: How does Katya's dream impact the main characters?

1483.539 - 1504.948 Grant Davis

She had planned to leave the hospital and, and things for herself. And what changed her mind was this idea, like what if something changed situationally and she could adopt Annie and then she's not there for Annie, which is a very sad, um, thing, but a reason one does cling to hope, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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1504.988 - 1507.831 John Rubio

Now, did you cry any time during this one?

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1509.213 - 1512.477 John Rubio

No, yeah. This is the saddest chapter in all these books.

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1512.978 - 1521.008 Grant Davis

It's pretty sad. No, I recognize it's a bummer, but we've gone over this. I'm a guy who wears a unicorn on his head.

1521.108 - 1522.49 John Rubio

I was just checking, just checking.

1522.53 - 1554.098 Grant Davis

Okay. I feel bad, but not enough to cry. No, no. Carl says when she's talking about offing herself, I'm trying to dance around the terminology in case it flags us otherwise. Sure, sure, sure. That he remembers feeling the same way and then says the last moment of the crash to which a woman says to Carl, come on now. I don't know what that is.

1555.019 - 1566.673 Grant Davis

It seems like he's having a flashback to some other memory of his own where he was hitting rock bottom, wanting to end things. And someone said, come on now, but we don't know what that is.

1566.994 - 1573.281 John Rubio

I always assume it's his mother in his head. Could be. But, or could not.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of the character Amani in this section?

2088.935 - 2091.658 Martin Thomas

Killing kids. Yeah. High ground.

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2091.678 - 2094.261 John Rubio

But it doesn't break the rules of the game. Oh, my God.

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2097.204 - 2107.035 Grant Davis

Insufferable. So I did think it's also interesting that York is on that ship. I don't know if we had heard that York was on that ship previously.

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2107.195 - 2108.076 John Rubio

I don't remember that.

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2108.663 - 2132.038 Grant Davis

Um, then yeah, maybe we'll hear more about York as well. Cause we've gone through all these other crawlers. I was thinking, oh, we've probably seen all the cookbook ones. And then the mention that York is up there. Oh, I thought it was just Porthas hanging out up there. So we learned that in exchange for getting that pin number that allowed her to steal all the money from the orcs.

2132.525 - 2146.804 Grant Davis

And she has to shoot this, this yacht. So that's what she got out of the deal from formidable as well as formidable helping, I guess, to buy the starships with that money. Right. And the plan is,

2147.29 - 2163.173 Grant Davis

With these ships, according to Rosetta, according to Porthos, is that they're going to take these two generation ships and fly with all of the families of the crawlers that recommitted to coming back into the faction wars.

2163.153 - 2183.322 Grant Davis

all of their families, they're going to fly all the way over to the plenty system and give them a ship with the rest of the money that they stole from the Horrocks, which seems like a lot, in exchange for them taking them to the forbidden gate of the impetus point, which is the farthest point in the galaxy away from all of this bullshit.

2183.342 - 2186.306 John Rubio

Yeah, from the center system. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chapter 6: How do the war mages influence the outcome of the story?

2644.722 - 2645.303 John Rubio

Right, right.

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2646.906 - 2675.548 Grant Davis

We also learn that she was a journalist once. back on her planet before the crawl ever started. And that's why she took up being a journalist again after she was able to escape everything. But she describes it, uh, being a journalist, uh, as one of the most dangerous subversive jobs in her country. And, uh, sometimes that resonates like, yeah, being a journalist is, uh,

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2675.748 - 2686.888 John Rubio

Well, you think about a place like Mexico where, you know, being a journalist reporting on the cartel is very, very deadly.

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2687.229 - 2687.509 Grant Davis

Yeah.

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2688.05 - 2688.851 John Rubio

Yeah. Getting around it.

2689.132 - 2689.372 Grant Davis

Yeah.

2689.873 - 2696.205 John Rubio

I mean, you know, they're killing musicians who sing songs about them.

2696.886 - 2724.825 Grant Davis

Jeez. So Rosetta wept when she remembered seeing Carl talking to Donut about the masks we wear. And this was at the end of Book 5, Floor 6, The Butcher's Masquerade, when Donut's saying that she can't cry despite them losing Faraz and their other friends. And it's like, I don't know what this means that I can't cry. And Carl's like, what? You're wearing a mask right now.

2724.865 - 2746.517 Grant Davis

That mask is there to protect you. But one day we'll be in a place where you can take off that mask and you can go back to being yourself, which is a powerful statement. And she that resonated with Rosetta, who wonders if she'll ever be able to be at that place where she took off her own mask. She kind of like Carl wants to rest and just be done with all of this.

Chapter 7: What are the moral dilemmas faced by the characters?

3179.097 - 3199.239 Grant Davis

I'd have to look back at this. I wish I had this on the top of mind. It was something about if she does three, it activates some other big thing. And I don't know if it has to do with the spell that she has, or this is just a level-wide thing that if there's three atrocities committed, then something else activates.

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3199.259 - 3204.124 John Rubio

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I figured that must be it. The way it's like, oh, that's two. One more. Come on.

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3204.188 - 3222.992 Grant Davis

Yeah. And Victor is hearing the AI and mutters something about the AI subsystem degrading here. Yeah, because the voice is going in and out. But that's something we hear because of Jeff Hayes doing the voice. That's not something the book readers are noticing. Oh, that's true. So it's interesting that she's noting that.

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3223.072 - 3226.416 John Rubio

Well, I wonder if in the text, maybe it's like different fonts as it's.

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3226.396 - 3242.177 Grant Davis

That's what I was asking people, but it looks like it wasn't when I glanced at an earlier one. Okay, okay. But maybe one of the editing notes from Matt was like, start warbling the voice and shifting in and out earlier than when we started doing it with the text. I don't know. You guys can let us know.

3243.642 - 3262.748 Grant Davis

Anyway, this second atrocity, you're not done yet, rips the skin off of all of these bodies, the corpses across this field, so much so that a red mist of blood flows into the air. And it's just raining misty blood all over Carl and everyone else.

3262.968 - 3265.471 John Rubio

Which means they're breathing it in as well.

3265.872 - 3287.597 Grant Davis

Oh, yeah. They're taking in lots of blood. It's gross. And the fleshers that are... Parting ways with the corpse skin are erupting out and starting to attack the ball, but they can't really get into it. They can't get into the ball. They can't attach themselves to the people that are part of the ball because it's all protected.

3287.857 - 3288.077 John Rubio

Yeah.

Chapter 8: How does the episode set up for the next chapters in the series?

3718.362 - 3718.963 John Rubio

Yeah.

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3718.943 - 3727.074 Grant Davis

Which Carl is at first kind of a little bit like finds this a little jarring, but then realizes, oh, Mordecai thinks is that.

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3727.434 - 3727.675 John Rubio

Yeah.

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3728.075 - 3729.617 Grant Davis

So he's doing what he loves.

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3729.737 - 3730.258 John Rubio

Yeah.

3730.278 - 3738.249 Grant Davis

And Mordecai just wants to be a dad or a caretaker or, you know, care for kids. And it's a sweet scene.

3738.569 - 3751.128 John Rubio

And yeah, it's sad because it's like, okay, well, however this ends, if Donut dies, then... He's done. He has to go back to whatever he was doing, which is not taking care of these kids. Yeah. Go back to being a game guide or whatever.

3751.169 - 3762.889 Grant Davis

Yeah. And he's found something that's very valuable and that a lot of viewers have fallen in love with apparently because there's a channel dedicated to him just watching him take care of these kids.

3764 - 3781.224 Grant Davis

And he's reading Anne of Green Gables, which is a book that Carl says he remembers from his childhood that is one of the only things his mom kept when they moved out of, or when she moved out of a certain house. I don't know if it was from her childhood or what.

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