Humans On The Loop

104 - The Hypermoderns Talk Snow Crash, Language, Mind, & Video Game Metaphysics

04 Jan 2019

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This week, we have a rad roundtable conversation with The Hypermoderns – John David Ebert, Michael Aaron Kamins, and Mimetic Value/Ikkyu Sojun) where we talk Snow Crash, Linguistic Entropy, and The Metaphysics of Video Games; spoil Meow Wolf and Annihilation (warning!); and go deep on the origins of Hypnotherapy and NLP. It’s just part one of an intense three-hour hoedown with some of the sharpest minds I know…The Guests in Order of Appearance:Michael Aaron Kaminshttps://twitter.com/michaelaaronkJohn David Eberthttps://twitter.com/johndavidebertIkkyu Sojunhttps://twitter.com/mimeticvalueSupport this show on Patreon. It’s good for you and makes you feel good:https://patreon.com/michaelgarfieldWe Talk About:Michael Aaron Kamins:“Shigiro Miyamoto is the Dante of the Hypermodern Age.”Mario is a shaman, Link is Percival of the Round Table…NextNature.net, the Anthropocene, and the Wood Wide WebAre videogames more effective than books as a form of storytelling?John David Ebert likes Grand Theft Auto: “Video games aren’t the problem; they’re the SOLUTION to the problem of living in these bizarre cosmopolitan cities, these huge megalopolitan cities that we’re constantly stressed out by.”Narrative collapse in the shift from the serialized dramas of print-era TV and the reality shows of web-era TVMichael Aaron Kamins:“What does the hero’s journey mean in a world where we have to work 9-to-5 jobs?”Skeumorphism in digital spaces:Video games that mimic office life seem inevitable……but unlike in Snow Crash, we don’t want to walk everywhere in VR.Lists, Explosions, & FlowsWhy Michael Aaron Kamins disagrees with Daniel Pinchbeck about UFOs.If Jordan Peterson is our Confucius, who is our Lao Tzu?MG: “History is a thing that you make.”JDE:“We’ve lost the metaphysics. We have to bring back the metaphysics.”Why and how civilizations disintegrate.MG: “If you’re going to upload me, at least upload me in HD.”JDE: “It’s gotta get more fractal.”Meow Wolf is The Shimmer in AnnihilationArchangel Michael & Garuda, archetypes expressed across the world in time and landscapeMichael and Michael talk about the dragon fighting St. Michael meteor-dinosaur connection thing.Everybody tries to guess MG’s sign.Dr Blue aka Norman Katz, student of Milton EricksonJungian vs Ericksonian psychotherapy and the importance of combining the two.We talk smack on the sociopathic founders of NLP.Mimetic theory.Evolution, entropy, and the Tower of Babel.Shout-Outs:RadioLabDouglas RushkoffPac ManZelda: Breath of the WildCarl Jung’s Red BookNeal Stephenson’s Snow CrashGoogle GlassKevin KellyWilliam BurroughsMeow WolfRudolf Steiner“The Fighting Dinosaurs”Paleontologist Robert BakkerHouston Museum of Nature & ScienceTimothy LearyThe Fourth TurningHistory, Big History, and MetaHistory by SFI PressBeing John MalkovichGilles DeleuzePeter SloterdijkThe Joseph Campbell FoundationRobertson JeffersJon SteinbeckBuddha BombTimothy Morton’s HyperobjectsTom Hui Hu - A Prehistory of the CloudThe Square in the Tower by Neil FergusonThe Architects of the Internet Apologize - New Yorker MagazineJeff Van Der MeerTool & Alex GreyParvatiScott AdamsNLP Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit michaelgarfield.substack.com/subscribe

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104 - The Hypermoderns Talk Snow Crash, Language, Mind, & Video Game Metaphysics

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13:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

10:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

12:00H | 20 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

2ª PARTE | 06 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 22 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

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