ijustreadthisbook--the podcast
Episodes
92- Independent Bookstore Day The Romance Shelf
25 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Romance Shelf: https://www.theromanceshelf.com/Jocelyn Soto: https://www.jocelynesoto.com/SHOP MY INDIE/INDY/BIPOC BOOKSTORE: www.booksplusindy....
92- Just Another Football Romance by Emily Wohlfrom Knox WITH EMILY WOHLFROM KNOX & Olivia
23 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Just Another Football Romance by Emily with her booksta pair and ijustreadthisbook--the podcast most recurring guest L!Read/buy Just Another Football ...
90- Author Talk with ZIYE TAYLOR The Moment Series
09 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
GET TO THE KNOW AUTHOR OF THE MOMENT SERIES--ZIYE TAYLOR🤩🥳https://www.instagram.com/authorziyetaylor/SHOP MY INDIE/INDY/BIPOC BOOKSTORE: www.boo...
89- Loving Queen by Saffron Brooks
02 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Co-host: L from pairthisbookwhttps://www.instagram.com/pairthisbookwith/SHOP MY INDIE/INDY/BIPOC BOOKSTORE: www.booksplusindy.comBOOKS+ is looking for...
88- The Re-Do List by Denise Williams WITH DENISE WILLIAMS
12 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After sitting in separate waiting rooms😅--DENISE WILLIAMS JOINED ME ON IJUSTREADTHISBOOK--THE PODCAST!The Re-Do List by Denise Williams: https://ww...
87- The False Start by Lillian Lyle WITH LILLIAN LYLE
26 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
indie author brain dump now playing on ijustreadthisbook--the podcast with LILLIAN LYLELILLIAN LYLE 'THE FALSE START': https://lillianlyle.com...
86- Harlem Rhpsody by Victoria Christopher Murray
12 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It all started with a DM😁Style and Savings started as a thrift fashion blog and later turned into a bookstagram. Now, each post features a book pai...
85- The Gilded Butterfly Effect by Heather Colley WITH HEATHER COLLEY
05 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Previously recorded October 22, 2025, Heather Colley ‘The Gilded Butterfly Effect’ on ijustreadthisbook—the podcasthttps://www.heathercolleyauth...
84- Movie Rant Monday The Housemaid
29 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
My rating of The Housemaid book: 4 STARSwatch me narrow down to my book of the year (2025): https://youtu.be/Ipl_winIQuE?si=JyEAQA4lYzpespcebooksplusi...
83- Movie Rant Monday Regretting You
23 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
booksplusindy.comPRE-ORDER SIGNED COPIES OF YOU PROMISE AVAILABLE APRIL 21, 2026https://www.taylorjbridgeforth.com/product-page/you-promise-book1If yo...
82- Heartbreaker by Jensen Parker
18 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
‘Heartbreaker’ by Jensen Parker book review on ijustreadthisbook—the podcastJensen Parker: https://www.jensenparker.com/FUN FACT: this time last...
81- Part of Forever by Taylor Epperson WITH TAYLOR EPPERSON
04 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
TAYLOR J. BRIDGEFORTH WITH TAYLOR EPPERSON ON IJUSTREADTHISBOOK—THE PODCASThttps://authortaylorepperson.com/CW: cancer diagnosis, death, grief, pare...
80- Love Apptually by Alyssa Jarrett
20 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Alyssa Jarrett: https://www.alyssajarrett.com/Love and Tech Book Fest authors: https://www.lovetechbookfest.com/author-lineupPRE-ORDER SIGNED COPIES O...
79- Her by DV Fischer WITH DV Fischer
06 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
https://dvfischer.com/HER CONTENT WARNING: r*pe, adult s*x trafficking, MM r*pe, n3crophilia, selling of c0rpses, blo0d, p0rn, heavy s3xual contentFri...
78- The Haunting Room of 904 by Erika T. Wurth WITH ERIKA T. WURTH
23 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
PERFECT HALLOWEEN READ + PERFECT HORROR AUTHOR = ERIKA T. WURTH‼️‼️‼️‘You Promise’ cover reveal taylorjbridgeforth.comIf you want to k...
77- Girls Who Burn by MK Pagano
09 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I SURVIVED MY FIRST YOUTUBE DRAG: https://www.tiktok.com/@ijustreadthisbook/video/7555223233088261406If you want to know the title and author of futur...
76- Can't Get Enough by Kennedy Ryan
25 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
the fact that i thought we talked for over two hours and it was actually less than an hour and a half—you’re welcome!cohost: https://www.instagram...
75- We Used To Live Here by Marcus Kliewer
11 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
SEASON FIVE of ijustreadthisbook—the podcast is hereeee!cohost: Jensen Parker https://www.jensenparker.com/If you want to know the title and author ...
74- The New Order by Claire Isenthal WITH CLAIRE ISENTHAL
21 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
CW: mass shootingsSEASON FOUR FINALE with Claire Isenthal author of The New Order duologyhttps://www.claireisenthal.com/If you want to know the title ...
73- Done and Dusted by Lyla Sage
07 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
SUPPORT YOUR LIBRARYsubscribe to ijustreadthisbook—the podcast to stay up to date on future and bonus episodes:)You Promise a romantic mystery book ...
72- The Townsend Family Recipe For Disaster
10 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Azaria’s 2025 reading list: https://youtu.be/BzptrgNK-Qg?si=rZmbtBVP5aGRQEb_subscribe to ijustreadthisbook—the podcast to stay up to date on futur...
71- Legendborn by Tracy Deonn
19 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Two new stans of Tracy Deonn reporting for dutysubscribe to ijustreadthisbook—the podcast to stay up to date on future and bonus episodes:)Romantic ...
70- The House of My Mother by Shari Franke
22 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
subscribe to ijustreadthisbook—the podcast to stay up to date on future and bonus episodes:)Romantic mystery book one, YOU PROMISE April 2026BUY ME ...
69- First Time Caller by B.K. Borisom
15 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
I am happy to report, I have since finished reading ‘First Time Caller’ by B.K. Borisonijustreadthisbook—the podcast https://open.spotify.com/sh...
68- Chapter Book Lounge (Independent Bookstore Day)
26 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORE DAY IS THE LAST SATURDAY IN APRIL EVERY YEAR🤩Best friends turned bookstore owners: Jen and Brooke🤗👯♀️Chapter Boo...
67- Astor Hill by Sydney Madison
24 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sydney Madison: https://sydneymadisonbooks.com/‘Astor Hill’: https://www.amazon.com/Astor-Hill-Sydney-Madison-ebook/dp/B0DJF29ZJ4Romance Con: http...
66- The Game series by Stephanie C WITH STEPHANIE C
17 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
https://www.stephaniecwrites.com/https://www.romance-con.com/INDIE APRIL: highlighting indie author’s books!subscribe to ijustreadthisbook—the pod...
65- Dr. Resident by Lexie Woods
10 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
‘Dr. Resident’ by Lexie Woodshttps://www.lexiewoodsauthor.com/LEXIE WOODS AND MYSELF ARE ATTENDING AUTHORS AT ROMANCE CON 2025https://www.romance-...
64- Love Me Not by Ayla Cox WITH AYLA COX
03 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
KICKING OFF INDIE APRIL W AUTHOR AYLA COX AND HER LATEST NOVELLA ‘Love Me Not’https://www.aylacox.com/INDIE APRIL: highlighting indie author’s b...
63- The Perfect Game series by J. Sterling WITH J. STERLING
27 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
J. Sterling wants to be on a book podcast…ijustreadthisbook—the podcast enters the chat!https://jsterlingbooks.com/subscribe to ijustreadthisbook—...
62- Say You Swear by Meagan Brandy
13 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
NICHOLAS ALLEN’S LOVE LETTER TO ME, ‘SAY YOU SWEAR’ BY MEAGAN BRANDYINDY INDIE BOOK CRAWL‼️https://www.instagram.com/indyindiebookcrawl/subs...
61- Fingertips by Terreeece M. Clarke WITH TERREECE M. CLARKE
27 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
the yap of two authors with a microphone is unmatched—talking with TERREECE M CLARKE ABOUT HER LATEST NOVEL ‘FINGERTIPS’ and the Courageous Love...
60- You, Again by Kate Goldbeck
13 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
@queerborireads FAVORITE CONTEMPORARY ROMANCE BOOK, ‘You Again’ by Kate GoldbeckINDY INDIE BOOK CRAWL‼️https://www.instagram.com/indyindiebook...
59- American Royalty series by Tracey Livesay WITH TRACEY LIVESAY
30 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Treating fictional characters as real people 🤝🏾 me kudos to Tracey Livesay’s American Royalty series grabbing me by the throat and wanting so ...
58- The Wrong Bride by Catharina Maura
16 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
recurring episodes of ijustreadthisbook--the podcast are now up every other thursday‼️‼️‼️ When the internet brings you a new book friend🤗...
57- Strangers Series by Jensen Parker WITH JENSEN PARKER
26 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Belated Christmas present i.e. the final ijustreadthisbook—the podcast episode of 2024 with Strangers Series author Jensen Parker🤗 Jensen’s bo...
56- The Truth According to Ember by Danica Nava
28 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY‼️‼️ ‘for every indigenous woman who has ever felt invisible. i see you. i am you’ i appreciate skylr so mu...
55 - Funny Story by Emily Henry
31 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
'Funny Story' by Emily Henry aka MY WORST NIGHTMARE. THURSDAY NOV 28 'Dear Hanna' by Zoje Stage with ratinareads (instagram) Read, review and buy my...
54- Movie Rant Monday: It Ends With Us (2024)
14 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
MRM: It Ends With Us (2024) A room full of sorority sisters and Ruby goos>>>> National Domestic Violence Hotline 800.799.SAFE (7233) Text...
53- Indy Writing Coven 🪄
26 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
SEASON FOOOOUUURRRRR of ijustreadthisbook--the podcast'While solitude is an inevitable part of the writing journey, communities can provide accountabi...
52- 'A Little Bit Extra' by Courtney Corlew WITH COURTNEY CORLEW
29 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
SEASON THREE FINALE OF IJUSTREADTHISBOOK—THE PODCAST, and *FOUR* months of ‘A Little Bit Extra’ by Courtney Corlew @courtneycorlewauthor/@bookma...
51 - In My Dreams I Hold A Knife by Ashley Winstead
25 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
CW: sexual and physical violence kenz favorite book ‘in my dreams i hold a knife’ by ashley winstead recap in a nutshell: which of heather’s ‘...
50 - MOVIE RANT MONDAY: The Idea of You
08 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
50th EPISODE OF IJUSTREADTHISBOOK--THE PODCAST! 50 more and I'll be hosting a giveaway so make sure you're following my socials for a chance t...
49 - Yellowface by R.F. Kuang
27 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Without counting, I'd say this episode of ijustreadthisbook--the podcast has the most tangents yet. 'Yellowface' perfect novel for writer...
48 - Read the Narrative Book Box
19 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
'If your dreams don't scare you, there're not big enough.' BONUS EPISODE OF IJUSTREADTHISBOOK--THE PODCAST IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY 'R...
47 - The Unicorn Legacy: Tangled Magic by Kamilla Benko WITH KAMILLA BENKO
30 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
ijustreadthisbook--the podcasts FIRST fantasy novel + fantasy and middle grade author KAMILLA BENKO. I met Kamilla during 2024 Indy Indie Bookstore Cr...
46 - The Partner Plot by Kristina Forest WITH KRISTINA FOREST
15 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Hour long gush fest about Kristina Forest's 'The Partner Plot' as well as some tidbits about 'The Love Lyric' and writing and publ...
45 - The Whispering Shelf
27 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
ITS INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORE DAY AND I'M TALKING WITH THE NEWEST OWNER OF INDIANAPOLIS LATEST BOOKSTORE: Lena! The Whispering Shelf is now open to read, ...
44 - 'Lipsticks and Camera Clicks' by DJ Murphy WITH DJ MURPHY
25 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
HAPPY INDIE APRIL. Indie April: celebration where folks commit to sharing, buying, reading and reviewing indie books all month long. When TikTok breed...
43 - Kelsey Jones SBC Downtown Indianapolis Founder
03 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
BONUS EPISODE OF IJUSTREADTHISBOOK--THE PODCAST WITH THE FOUNDER OF THE SILENT BOOK CLUB DOWNTOWN INDIANAPOLIS CHAPTER, Kelsey Jones:) Somethings Sile...
42 - Hunting Adeline by H.D. Carlton
28 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WARNING WARNING WARNING!!!!!!!!!! Listen at your own risk. Finishing H.D.'s series and any other rants about her books. I wish her a successful an...
41 - Better Luck Next Time by Taylor J. Bridgeforth WITH TAYLOR J. BRIDGEFORTH
29 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
HAPPY LEAP DAY A very special episode of ijustreadthisbook--the podcast hosted by the L of pairthisbookwith on instagram. In case you didn't know...
40 - Movie Rant Monday: Mean Girls (2024)
05 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
I'm probably the only one who missed Movie Rant Monday and that's why I host my own podcast to cater to myself (and hope everyone likes it;))....
39 - Haunting Adeline by H.D. Carlton
25 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of ijustreadthisbook--the podcast is three years in the making as (once Olivia and I realized we were book people) 'Haunting Adeline&...
38 - Don't Forget the Girl by Rebecca McKanna WITH REBECCA MCKANNA
28 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Rebecca and I talk all things 'Don't Forget the Girl,' writing, publishing, inspiration, research, friendship, writing advice and the importance of a ...
37- The Other Black Girl by Zakiya Dalila Harris
30 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
My do I love doing life with friends. Such a fun time recording 'The Other Black Girl' by Zakiya Dalila Harris recap with my bestie and award winning ...
36 - Riches to Riches: Part One by Ames Mills
26 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Content warning: s*xual assault, kidnapping, murder, s*icidal thoughts. UPDATE: 'Coming Up Dana' a 'Better Luck Next Time' novella will be available M...
35- Slammed by Colleen Hoover
28 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
SEASON THREE OF IJUSTREADTHISBOOK--THE PODCAST WITH AZARIA! Contributing author of Black Joy Unbound LINK TO PURCHASE: https://www.blfpress.com/bookst...
34- Those Other Women by Nicola Moriarty
31 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
NOW PLAYING SEASON TWO FINALE OF IJUSTREADTHISBOOK--THE PODCAST. In a nutshell: DO YA THANG! To the white man: PAY WRITERS AND ACTORS FAIRLY SO WE C...
33- Bring Me Back by B.A. Paris
27 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
WE LOVE B.A. PARIS! 'Behind Closed Doors' is a scary a** book. Ruin Rob's life. #iykyk SIGN UP FOR MY NEWSLETTER: https://beacons.ai/tayl...
32- The True Love Experiment by Christina Lauren WITH CHRISTINA LAUREN
19 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
'The True Love Experiement' is on ijustreadthisbook--the podcast today but get excited for Christina Lauren's first full cast audiobook 'The Honeymoon...
31- Oh Love, Come Close by Lindsey Frazier WITH LINDSEY FRAZIER
12 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL AUTHORS! Lindsey Frazier and her debut novel 'Oh Love, Come Close' are the stars of today's episode of ijustreadthisbook--the podc...
30- Dreamland Billionaire Series by Lauren Asher
29 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dreamland Billionaire Series by Lauren Asher: -The Fine Print (2:51) TW: suicidal thoughts -Terms and Conditions (20:56) TW: domestic abuse -The Fina...
29- Real Love by Rachel Lindsay WITH RACHEL LINDSAY
23 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
After a year in the making RACHEL LINDSAY has finally graced ijustreadthisbook--the podcast with me Taylor to discuss her novel 'Real Love.' ...
28- Happy Place by Emily Henry
25 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
BOOKSTAGRAMMERS UNITE BY EMILY HENRY'S 'HAPPY PLACE' Random rants: -book adaptations -bookstagramming -'it ends with us' movie F...
27- The House of Eve by Sadeqa Johnson WITH SADEQA JOHNSON
23 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
I definitely thought I fangirled TOO HARD with Sadeqa Johnson--author of 'The House of Eve' but maybe I didn't.....? The jury is still out...
26- A Likely Story by Leigh McMullan Abramson WITH LEIGH MCMULLAN AMBRAMSON
16 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
I HAVE BEEN SEEN! Thanks to the annual book and author luncheon hosted by The Christamore House, I got to meet and invite Leigh McMullan Abramson to i...
25- You Made A Fool Of Death With Your Beauty by Akwaeke Emezi
27 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Once I've received enough recommendations, I had to see what the hype was all about. And the hype held. 4 STARS for me because there is only so mu...
24- Things We Do In The Dark by Jennifer Hillier
30 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
TW: child abuse, sexual abuse, suicide, addiction, body shaming, misogny. JENNIFER HILLIER STAN. A universal thank you for the guests who stop their ...
23- Allegedly by Tiffany D. Jackson
23 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
TW: abuse "Black mothers raise their daughters and love their sons." Unknown WRITER FRIENDS ARE THE BEST. AZARIA IS THE BEST. The first book I read by...
22- I'm Glad My Mom Died by Jennette McCurdy
26 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
TW: eating disorders, alcoholism, bullying, abuse. Jennette McCurdy support group whether she's acting, writing, directing, etc. The moral of th...
21- All Good People Here by Ashley Flowers
29 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
TW: suicide mention, pedophilia, sexual abuse. "You don't need luck, kid... You got talent for days." Any Crime Junkie podcast fans? The only fan I kn...
20- 30 Things I Love About Myself by Radhika Sanghani
24 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
TW: suicide. "I'm always growing and learning. My life is the ultimate work in progress." Perfect holiday read and vibe. LOVE YOURSELF. EMBRACE YOUR ...
19- MOVIE RANT MONDAY Tell Me Lies
14 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
TW: eating disorders, toxic relationships, driving under the influence, suicide, sexual abuse. 'Tell Me Lies' book by Carola Lovering. 'Tell Me Lies' ...
18- MOVIE RANT MONDAY Luckiest Girl Alive
07 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
TW: gun violence, school shooting, bullying, sexual assault, eating disorder (DAMN JESSICA), and I say the F word a lot:) "I hope he's someone who can...
18- Ugly Love by Colleen Hoover
27 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Another Colleen Hoover read on ijustreadthisbook--the podcast BECAUSE I'M A SUPERFAN and I don't know how hard I'll try to not spam the podcast, but s...
17- Turtles All The Way Down by John Green
29 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
HAPPY SEASON TWO TO IJUSTREADTHISBOOK--THE PODCAST. "No one ever says good-bye unless they want to see you again." New season. And new guest. After Pa...
15- The Summer I Turned Pretty series by Jenny Han
25 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
"He kissed like he was drowning and I was air. It was passionate, and desperate, and like nothing I had experienced before." Long history with a long ...
14- MOVIE RANT MONDAY Love and Gelato
01 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Introducing MOVIE RANT MONDAY on ijustreadthisbook--the podcast. MRM will be a recurring theme on the podcast and its essentially talking about book a...
13- Rock Paper Scissors by Alice Feeney
28 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
“Enjoy the stories of other people's lives, but don't forget to live your own.” MY HONEY LICIOUS BOYFRIEND, THEE NICHOLAS ALLEN IS HERE ON IJUSTRE...
12- Queenie by Candice Carty-Williams
30 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
"You can be any type of black girl that you want to be." Chelsea and I discuss the hideous stereotypes of being black, being a black woman, and interr...
11- Something Wilder by Christina Lauren WITH CHRISTINA LAUREN BONUS EP
27 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
OMFG Christina Hobbs and Lauren Billings (CHRISTINA LAUREN) of this years 'Something Wilder' just keep giving! Their books, the time they gave me and ...
10- Everything Everything by Nicola Yoon
26 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
"In my head I know I've been in love before, but it doesn't feel like it. Being in love with you is better than the first time. It feels like the firs...
9- Must Love Books by Shauna Robinson
28 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
“English majors who loved books so much they wanted to publish them didn’t sound too far removed from English majors who loved books so much they ...
8- The Trouble With Hating You by Sajni Patel
31 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
“You’re mine. I’m yours. We don’t belong with anyone else. I don’t stand in front of you, or run after you. I walk alongside you. I will be ...
7- The Spanish Love Deception by Elena Armas
24 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
“It’s like you want me to beg. Is that something you’d enjoy? Me begging?” His voice sounded so … intimate. Hushed. But it was his next word...
6- The Last Mrs. Parrish by Liv Constantine BONUS EPISODE
10 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
“Marriage is hard work. If you love someone, you don’t let anything destroy it.” JSYK: so much abuse, I don’t even know how to categorize it....
5- Follow Me by Kathleen Barber
27 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
I invited my friend Jamie to talk about Kathleen Barber's 'Follow Me.' I have never felt my age more than trying to understand the life of an influenc...
4- Verity by Colleen Hoover
30 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
TW: abuse. “I can’t explain the mind of a writer to you… We’re able to separate our reality from fiction in such a way that it feels as if we ...
3- The Fastest Way to Fall by Denise Williams
25 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
TW: fat shaming, fat phobia, eating disorders, disordered eating and addiction. “Anyone who makes you feel you’re not enough isn’t worth the bre...
2- That Summer by Jennifer Weiner
28 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
TW: rape, assault, suicide. “Why would you hurt people who haven’t done anything to hurt you?” My friend Olivia and I discuss our thoughts on Je...
1-- Introduction
30 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
HI! I'm Taylor and welcome to the first episode of my first podcast. In a nutshell: I will be reading books and then talking about them (how they may ...