Ike, Spike and Fritz
Episodes
Top 5 at 5: High Pressure Parenting moments
31 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Top 5 at 5 is here, and Jack Fritz breaks down his top five high-pressure parenting moments as a father of two.
Ike wins the belt
31 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The belt is changing hands this week—but it’s staying on the WIP Afternoon Show, as Ike Reese takes control.
Jake Fisher on the possibility the Sixers trade for Giannis
31 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report joins the WIP Afternoon Show to break down the possibility of the Sixers landing Giannis at the trade deadline, along ...
Tornado Shapiro's Weekend Forecast
31 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Tornado Shapiro delivers another weekend forecast, with frigid temperatures and the potential for more snow headed toward the Philadelphia area.
ESP: I'm still not sold on Sean Mannion
31 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Eliot Shorr-Parks joins the show to share his thoughts on the Sean Mannion hire after having time to sleep on it. ESP remains unconvinced by the move ...
Nick Foles and others weigh in on Sean Mannion hire
31 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
More reaction pours in on the Eagles’ new offensive coordinator hire, Sean Mannion, including opinions from big names like former Eagles Super Bowl ...
Ike: My expectations are low with Sean Mannion
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Eagles have officially ended their offensive coordinator search, announcing former Packers quarterbacks coach Sean Mannion as the new OC. The WIP ...
Full Show: Giving Sirianni a shot at play calling & Eagles hire new OC!
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, the WIP Afternoon Show debates the idea of letting Nick Sirianni call plays in 2026—before breaking news hits late in the show th...
Hour 1: Letting Nick Sirianni call plays in 2026
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 1, the WIP Afternoon Show mulls over the idea of letting Nick Sirianni call plays for the Eagles offense in 2026. Plus, Ike, Spike, and Fritz ...
Hour 2: Giannis to Philly?!
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 2, the WIP Afternoon Show dives into the Giannis Antetokounmpo-to-the-76ers rumors and why Daryl Morey needs to make the move happen. Plus, Ja...
Hour 3: First official Afternoon Show Caller of the Year committee member announced
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 3, the WIP Afternoon Show awards the first spot on the Caller of the Year committee to Rhea Hughes. Plus, more discussion on who will be calli...
Hour 4: Eagles find their new offensive coordinator
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 4, the WIP Afternoon Show reacts to breaking news as Sean Mannion is named the Eagles’ next offensive coordinator. Ike, Spike, and Fritz sha...
BREAKING NEWS: The Eagles Hire Sean Mannion As Their Next OC!
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Eagles have officially ended their search for a new offensive coordinator, hiring former Packers quarterbacks coach Sean Mannion to take over the ...
Top 5 30 for 30's Jack wants to see
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
With the announcement of the Philly Special 30 for 30 covering the Eagles’ 2017 Super Bowl run, Jack Fritz shares his Top 5 sports stories he’d li...
Spike: There's no way if Eagles hire Sean Mannion he's calling plays
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Spike dives into why he can’t envision a scenario where Nick Sirianni isn’t calling plays with a young offensive coordinator like Sean Mannion com...
Rhea Hughes accepts her invitation to the caller of the year committee
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The WIP Afternoon Show begins assembling its committee to vote on Caller of the Year. The first member, Rhea Hughes, joins the show to accept her invi...
Jalen Hurts is the king of aura farming 😂
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The WIP Afternoon Show is giving Jalen Hurts praise for something new—his “aura farming”—following a revealing report from the Eagles’ locke...
Giannis Antetokounmpo to Philly?!
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
As Giannis continues to be linked to a potential move after the NBA trade deadline, the Sixers have emerged as a top candidate to land the superstar. ...
Ike, Spike and Fritz SHOCKED By Jeff Stoutland rumor
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jeff McLane dropped a bombshell report claiming Jeff Stoutland was stripped of his role as run game coordinator in the middle of the 2025 season. The ...
Spike: The Eagles should let Nick Sirianni call plays in 2026
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Day 16 of the Philadelphia Eagles’ offensive coordinator search has the WIP Afternoon Show asking a bold question: should Nick Sirianni call the pla...
Is The Phillies Offseason a C or an F-? | 'High Hopes'
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From 'High Hopes' (subscribe here): James Seltzer and Jack Fritz come to terms with the Phillies' lackluster offseason and try to find the optimism fo...
Full Show: Is It Time To Trade Joel Embiid?
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, the WIP Afternoon Show dives into the big question: should the Sixers trade Joel Embiid at the NBA trade deadline, or keep him in P...
Hour 1: Sixers trade deadline discussion
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 1, the WIP Afternoon Show debates whether the Sixers should trade Joel Embiid now or give him more time. Plus, they react to more of Doc River...
Hour 2: Jon Gruden as Eagles OC?!
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 2, the WIP Afternoon Show wants the Eagles to give Jon Gruden a call for their open offensive coordinator job. Plus, Brodes stops by with the ...
Hour 3: Reacting to Chris Sanchez heading to the World Baseball Classic
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 3, Spike voices his displeasure with another Phillies player heading to the World Baseball Classic. Plus, the WIP Afternoon Show delivers the ...
Hour 4: Tough scenes & Caller of the year updates
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 4, the WIP Afternoon Show breaks down some of the toughest scenes of the day in the Top 5 at 5. Plus, the Afternoon Show continues the discuss...
More Afternoon Show Caller of the Year discussion
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The WIP Afternoon Show continues the discussion on who will make the Caller of the Year panel, along with how the callers will be seeded.
Top 5 at 5: Toughest scenes of the last 24 hours
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Top 5 at 5 dives into some of the most chaotic situations and shocking scenes that have unfolded over the last 24 hours.
Updated Eagles Insider of the Year Power Rankings
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Eagles Insider of the Year race is in the home stretch, and these latest power rankings may reveal who has the upper hand in one of the most covet...
Spike is NOT HAPPY Chris Sanchez is pitching in the World Baseball Classic
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Sánchez announced he’ll be pitching for the Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic—and Spike Eskin is not happy about it. The WIP...
Flyers in 50 with Brodes
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It’s time for another Flyers in 50 with Brodes on the WIP Afternoon Show, and the energy is still low as Philadelphia sports continue to spiral.
Ike, Spike and Fritz want the Eagles to call Jon Gruden for Eagles OC
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Another day, another update on the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search. Ike, Spike, and Fritz are still waiting for the Eagles to name their next p...
Doc Rivers continues to make a fool of himself
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Doc Rivers took credit for several aspects of his time in Philadelphia, and the WIP Afternoon Show is ready to rip the former Sixers coach for every b...
Spike: As much as it hurts me to say, it's time to trade Joel Embiid
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Sixers are starting to gain momentum behind their young stars as the NBA trade deadline approaches. With that in mind, the WIP Afternoon Show deba...
Do the Eagles really want an experienced OC? | 'Go Birds'
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From 'Go Birds' (subscribe here): Eliot Shorr-Parks dives into all of the latest Eagles offensive coordinator news and wonders if it is time to change...
Full Show: The Eagles OC Search Has Been A Disaster!
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, the WIP Afternoon Show dives into the chaotic process of finding the Eagles’ next offensive coordinator. It’s also Tuesdays wit...
Hour 1: Eagles OC search continues to head into a tailspin
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 1, the WIP Afternoon Show breaks down the chaos of the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search, and reacts to yet another report seemingly thro...
Hour 2: Tuesdays with ESP
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 2, it’s Tuesdays with Eliot Shorr-Parks on the WIP Afternoon Show, as Ike, Spike, Fritz, and Eliot continue the conversation on the Eagles’...
Hour 3: Pulling the autographed Jackie Baseball card
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 3, the WIP Afternoon Show tries their luck at snagging a coveted Jack Fritz autographed baseball card, while continuing the debate over the Ea...
Hour 4: 2004 vs 2024 Eagles
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 4, the WIP Afternoon Show rolls out the Top 5 at 5, dives into a hypothetical showdown between the 2004 Eagles and the 2024 Eagles, and reacts...
Bill Belichick left out of the Hall of Fame on the 1st ballot
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Shocking breaking news rocks the NFL as reports suggest legendary coach Bill Belichick will not be a first-ballot Hall of Famer. The WIP Afternoon Sho...
A.I. decides who would win a game between the 2004 and 2024 Eagles
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ike, Spike, and Fritz play a hypothetical game, asking AI who would win in a matchup between the 2004 Eagles and the 2024 Eagles—and debating the an...
Are the Eagles better off hiring an underwhelming experienced coach?
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The WIP Afternoon Show continues the discussion surrounding the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search, taking a closer look at the veteran candidates...
Ike, Spike and Eliot try to pull the Jack Fritz baseball card
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Jack Fritz baseball card is all the rage, and to kick off the High Hopes Jackie Baseball Report, the WIP Afternoon Show starts ripping packs in ho...
ESP helps decide the panel for Afternoon Show caller of the year
28 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
As anticipation builds for the WIP Afternoon Show’s Caller of the Year, Ike, Spike, Fritz, and Eliot debate who should make up the panel tasked with...
ESP has concern over Nick Sirianni's job security if 2026 goes poorly
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It’s Tuesdays with Eliot Shorr-Parks, and ESP continues to break down the Eagles’ ongoing offensive coordinator search while raising concerns abou...
National report hints Jalen Hurts is the issue with the Eagles OC job
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jalen Hurts can’t seem to escape the criticism, as another national report appears to place much of the blame on him for the Eagles’ ongoing offen...
Spike: The Eagles OC search has been a DISASTER! 😟
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The WIP Afternoon Show are calling the Philadelphia Eagles’ search for a new offensive coordinator a disaster, as more teams finalize their hires an...
Full Show: Was Firing Kevin Patullo A MISTAKE?!
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, the WIP Afternoon Show takes a retrospective look at the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search, questioning whether letting Kevin ...
Hour 1: Eagles OC search in retrospect & aftermath of the Philadelphia blizzard
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 1, the WIP Afternoon Show takes a retrospective look, questioning whether the Eagles should have stuck with Kevin Patullo heading into the 202...
Hour 2: Mystery factor plaguing Eagles OC search
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 2, the WIP Afternoon Show digs into Spike’s surprising shift on whether Philadelphia should go pro-dome or stay anti-dome. Plus, they explor...
Hour 3: Disappointment over losing Harrison Bader
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 3, Eliot Shorr-Parks joins the WIP Afternoon Show to break down the newest candidates added to the Eagles’ offensive coordinator list. He al...
Hour 4: Who is the grittiest member of WIP?
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 4, the WIP Afternoon Show breaks down which WIP employees showed true grit after last night’s blizzard. Plus, they take a league-wide look a...
Around the NFL
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
With the conference championship games behind them, the WIP Afternoon Show now takes a league-wide tour—checking in on all the latest coaching moves...
Top 5 at 5: WIP Grittiness levels
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In the wake of Sunday’s blizzard, the WIP Afternoon Show turns to their Top 5 at 5 to crown the grittiest efforts—highlighting who went above and ...
Spike: The Phillies should've found a way to keep Harrison Bader
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Harrison Bader has officially signed with the Philadelphia Phillies—but the WIP Afternoon Show isn’t happy with how the team handled it, voicing f...
Eliot Shorr-Parks discusses the new candidates in search for Eagles OC
26 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Eliot Shorr-Parks joins the WIP Afternoon Show to break down the latest candidates in the Eagles offensive coordinator search, share his take on NFL C...
Is Jeff Stoutland a factor dissuading OC's from taking Eagles job?
26 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
As the WIP Afternoon Show continues to search for answers to why the Eagles can’t seem to land their next offensive playcaller, the crew floats a ne...
Spike is officially pro-dome in Philadelphia
26 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
After watching a snow-filled slugfest between the Broncos and Patriots, Spike admits his stance on a dome in Philadelphia has officially changed.
Ike, Spike and Fritz discuss their shoveling experiences during blizzard
26 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Philadelphia was slammed by a massive blizzard, but that didn’t stop the WIP Afternoon Show. Ike, Spike, and Fritz break down the shovel duty and wi...
Ike: At this point the Eagles should've just kept Kevin Patullo
26 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
As the Eagles head into another week without a new offensive coordinator, questions are starting to grow. On the WIP Afternoon Show, the crew debates ...
Best Interviews on 94WIP: NFL Championship Games Previews & Eagles OC search continues!
25 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Best Of Interviews edition of the WIP, featuring the biggest and most insightful conversations as the NFL heads into Championship Weekend and the Eagl...
Best of Eagles on 94WIP: The Search For A New OC Continues
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to the best audio of the week from the Morning Show with DeCamara & Ritchie, Midday Show with Hugh Douglas and Joe Giglio, and the Afternoon Sh...
Full Show: Preparing for the Philadelphia blizzard this weekend
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, the WIP Afternoon Show steps outside of sports to break down the massive winter storm hitting Philadelphia and much of the East Coa...
Hour 1: Ike and Spike can't believe Jack is excited for the blizzard this weekend
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 1, the WIP Afternoon Show braces for a major blizzard hitting Philadelphia this weekend—are the hosts excited or worried? Plus, the conversa...
Hour 2: Finding a committed Eagles OC
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 2, the WIP Afternoon Show is joined by Eliot Shorr-Parks to continue the conversation on the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search. Plus, Tor...
Hour 3: V.J. Edgecombe for Giannis Antetokounmpo?!
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 3, the WIP Afternoon Show dives into a wild trade rumor that would send Sixers rookie sensation V.J. Edgecombe to Milwaukee in exchange for su...
Hour 4: Conference Championship Picks
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 4, the WIP Afternoon Show makes its picks for this weekend’s AFC and NFC Championship games. Plus, the Top 5 at 5 counts down the five best ...
The WIP Afternoon Show make their conference championship picks
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The AFC and NFC Championship Games kick off this Sunday, and the WIP Afternoon Show makes its picks on who will punch their tickets to the Super Bowl.
Top 5 at 5: Best Things We've Heard This Week
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It’s time for the final Top 5 at 5 of the week, and Jack Fritz is bringing the heat—showing Ike and Spike the five best pieces of audio he’s hea...
You Won't Believe How Much Jack Fritz's Baseball Card Is Valued At
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
We’re checking back in on Jack Fritz’s baseball card from yesterday—and the price has absolutely skyrocketed. Find out just how much it now cost...
Could Sixers Send V.J. Edgecombe To Milwaukee For Giannis Antetokounmpo🤯
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Sixers’ recent success has sparked some major trade rumors. The WIP Afternoon Show breaks down the biggest one yet—a blockbuster deal that wou...
Tornado Shapiro gives his forecast for Philadelphia blizzard
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Tornado Shapiro delivers what may be the most important forecast of his career as Philadelphia braces for a potentially chaotic winter snowstorm this ...
ESP: If Brian Daboll Has Doubts About Eagles OC Job I Don't Want Him
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Eliot Shorr-Parks joins the show to share his latest thoughts on the Eagles’ head coaching search, explaining why he believes the team should target...
Brian Daboll back as an option for Eagles OC?!
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Eagles’ offensive coordinator search continues to heat up. Could Brian Daboll be back in the mix for Philadelphia? Plus, a look at the other int...
Are You Excited Or Worried About The Incoming Philadelphia Snowstorm?
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Philadelphia is bracing for a major winter storm this weekend, with snowfall projections ranging from 6 inches to a full foot. On the WIP Afternoon Sh...
God, This Sucks | 'High Hopes'
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From 'High Hopes' (subscribe here): James Seltzer and Jack Fritz discuss their lack of optimism for the Phillies after yet another trade from the Mets...
The Nerve Of McDaniel & Daboll To Think They're Better Than The Eagles | 'Go Birds'
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
From 'Go Birds' (subscribe here): James Seltzer and Eliot Shorr-Parks react to the latest rumors regarding the Eagles search for an offensive coordina...
Is Jalen Hurts The Biggest Factor In The Eagles OC Search?
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, the WIP Afternoon Show breaks down why the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search is taking so long, and whether QB Jalen Hurts is ...
Hour 1: Evaluating the biggest factor in the Eagles OC search
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 1, the WIP Afternoon Show breaks down the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search, exploring why the team hasn’t filled the role yet. Is it J...
Hour 2: A Phillies offseason check in
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 2, the WIP Afternoon Show checks in on the Phillies’ vibe after the Mets make another big move and more players seem focused on the World Ba...
Hour 3: The WIP Afternoon Show make their choice for Eagles OC
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 3, the WIP Afternoon Show officially plants its flag on Jim Bob Cooter as the next offensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles. Plus, cal...
Hour 4: Jack Fritz's autographed baseball card
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 4, the WIP Afternoon Show reacts to some of the biggest lies NBA superstar LeBron James has ever told and the shocking discovery of Jack Fritz...
Hilarious reaction to finding out about Fritz's autographed baseball card😂
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ike and Spike just learned about a limited-edition Jack Fritz baseball card—and their reaction is must-see.
Top 5 at 5: Biggest Lies Lebron James Has Ever Told
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Top 5 at 5 dives into some of the biggest—and most infamous—lies NBA superstar LeBron James has ever told.
Callers give their takes on biggest factor in Eagles OC search
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The WIP Afternoon Show opens the phone lines and lets the callers take over, debating the biggest factors helping—and hurting—the Eagles in their ...
The WIP Afternoon Show pick Jim Bob Cooter as top candidate for Eagles OC
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The WIP Afternoon Show is officially planting its flag on one candidate in the OC race: current Colts offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter. Will you j...
Jalen Hurts doesn't make ESPN's list of top 100 most valuable players 😲
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It seems no one knows how to give QB1 a break. The WIP Afternoon Show reacts to ESPN leaving Jalen Hurts off its list of the 100 most valuable players...
A rant on Phillies players leaving for the World Baseball Classic
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Phillies’ offseason may have officially hit rock bottom. Now, players are choosing to participate in the World Baseball Classic instead of focus...
Greg Olsen praises Nick Sirianni
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Nick Sirianni hasn’t exactly been viewed as a selling point in the Eagles’ offensive coordinator search—at least until now. On Tuesday, Greg Ols...
Spike: Jalen Hurts is the biggest factor in the Eagles OC search
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
With the Eagles still searching for an offensive coordinator for 2026, questions are starting to pile up. On the WIP Afternoon Show, the guys dive int...
Full Show: Why are top head coaching candidates passing on the Eagles OC job?
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, the WIP Afternoon Show reacts to Mike McDaniel and Brian Daboll both turning down the Eagles’ offensive coordinator job—raising...
Hour 1: Reacting to the still vacant Eagles offensive coordinator job
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 1, the WIP Afternoon Show reacts to the surprising lack of interest in the Philadelphia Eagles’ offensive coordinator job following rejectio...
Hour 2: ESPN expert SHOCKED Brian Daboll turned down Eagles OC job
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 2, the WIP Afternoon Show is joined by ESPN’s Ben Solak, who shares his insights and top remaining candidates for the Eagles’ vacant offen...
Hour 3: Mike Kafka is the perfect Eagles OC hire
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 3, the WIP Afternoon Show is joined by Tiki Barber, who reacts to the surprise of Brian Daboll turning down the Eagles and shares who he would...
Hour 4: Afternoon Show callers on stock watch
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Hour 4, the WIP Afternoon Show puts all callers on notice, highlighting the ones to watch as the race heats up for the Afternoon Show’s Caller of...
A Sixers Update
21 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
As the WIP Afternoon Show winds down for the day, Ike, Spike, and Fritz provide the latest update on the Sixers, who continue to be a positive force i...
Top 5 at 5: Callers on watch for caller of the year
21 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Top 5 at 5 turns the spotlight on the callers to watch as the race heats up for the highly contested WIP Afternoon Show Caller of the Year.
Luis Robert Joins the Mets?! 😲
21 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Phillies’ archrivals, the New York Mets, made another big move by acquiring Luis Robert—so how worried should Phillies fans be? Plus, the WIP ...
Tiki Barber was shocked Daboll turned down Eagles OC job
21 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Former Giants running back and current WFAN host Tiki Barber joins the WIP Afternoon Show to react to the surprising decision by Brian Daboll not to t...