Chapter 1: What journey did Conan O’Brien take to become a successful comedian?
You and I are going to be hanging out a lot now, Craig. Anytime you want to hang. I don't think that's true. Yeah. I think I'm going to start cold calling him. It's true for you. So here's the thing. When I come to L.A. Ray gets coded. Let's hang. Let's hang. Let's shoot some hoops. That's right. I'm going to drain some threes from 80 yards away that don't go anywhere near the bucket.
Nowhere near. I tell you, that's the bit. And then I'll go to the back alley comedy club with you. I think you would do better at comedy than I would at basketball. This episode is brought to you by Chase Home Lending. Hey, little girl. You look so dapper today. So I was telling Julia, one of our producers, that... This is one of my favorite jackets. Yeah, I like that.
So I only wear it once a year on the show. I should wear it more often. Or get another one. No. It only comes in gray? No, they come in different colors, but I like this color. Oh, you like the gray? I like this gray. Well, I think it would look good in other colors too. I wear it often off camera. Okay. So it gets a lot of wear. Okay, that's good. It gets a lot of wear. It's good to know.
But it's not as hot as your leather outfit you got going on. Well, actually, this isn't leather. It's sort of like a faux leather. So they're actually more jeansy. They just have a finish. It's a jean finish. It's a sort of a wash that's over a race. So this is really just a jean that gives the leather effect. Got it. So just so you know, and they're very comfortable.
So you don't get this squishiness of the stiffness of the leather. But thank you. Thank you for noticing. You're always put together. So we've hit a milestone. It is just, it's amazing because it went by like that. Yeah, it's been a year since we launched IMO. I know. So we finished our first year. And we want to thank all our listeners, all the people on YouTube who have tuned in.
It's so fun hearing everybody's comments and feedback. I can't believe you said X, Y, or Z. And you run into people all the time. I do because I'm out here in the streets. I run into people all the time who are like, it is a fantastic show. You and your sister are so cute together. We love the guests. And I also want to thank our staff, everybody here who helped produce this thing.
It's been a really neat ride. And I've said this many times on this show, being 60 years old and being able to learn something completely new around a young group of people where it is... It's changed my aging. I feel like I'm aging backwards now that we're doing this. It's the beauty of continued evolution in this phase of life. I say it all the time.
It's like, you know, 60 doesn't mean what it used to. When I start counting back to what 60 was, and I think about the fact that Dandy, Grandma, our grandparents were this age when we thought they were old. Right. That's kind of a trip, but they kind of stopped. I mean, it's sort of like they pushed the pause button on life once they retired.
And I just think, you know, the recreation of self and trying some new things, I do think keeps you young. Yeah, yeah.
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Chapter 2: How did Conan's family influence his career choices?
And obviously we miss mom and she's not here to see this, but we're doing exactly what she did, right? She retires at the retirement age. Waits about six months and then goes back to work. Yeah, right. Like, what are you doing? And she went right back to work, right in the same office. And I think that put some years on, added some years to her life. And she would be proud of this project.
She would get such a big kick out of listening to us go back and forth. She'd be sitting in the back over there. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been good having her here in the studio. But, you know, this show is a tribute to her because of the parenting that mom and dad gave us because of the people that they were. And I think our relationship has always been strong, has remained strong. Yeah.
And a lot of the IMOs, the opinions we have, come from the wisdom they pass down to us, you know? I mean, it's a trip. I hear their voices so clearly in my head every day, guiding me and, you know, giving me the reassurance that I'm living life in a way that would make them proud. So it's fun to be able to share some of that advice with the listeners.
And hopefully, I mean, that's what we hope is that when people listen to the show, they hear some of what we got to hear, you know, and that it's helping some people. Along the way, because that's really the goal here is, you know, to entertain, but to also, you know, share some wisdom along the way. It really is.
When I'm in the airport or, you know, wherever I am, people stop me and they just say, boy, your parents must have been really great. And so that's the real, that's the real tribute for me. And I also want to make sure to thank all of our sponsors this year. Too many to name right now. We don't want to take but. And of course, the show would be nothing without great guests.
And we have another great one for this episode. Yeah, yeah. Conan O'Brien. I know. I know. I'm at a little disadvantage because you have a terrific relationship with him. And I'm just getting to know him. I feel very special. Conan is my friend. Yeah, that's so sweet. He's giggling over there. You are my friend, Conan.
I'm a little jealous of Conan because the way you talk about him being such a nice guy and doing things for you. It just sounds like me. Are you jealous now? And that's probably why I like Conan, because he's a tall, friendly guy, just like my big brother. But I think he's probably done a little more for me over the years than you have. I know. I've been busy. I've been busy. I've been busy.
Well, let me give just a couple of flowers here for Conan. As everyone knows, he's a television host, comedian, writer, producer. He hosted three late night talk shows. Late Night with Conan O'Brien, The Tonight Show, and Conan. And is currently the host of the podcast Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. He has one in me. Which I have... Recently Learned was the first podcast that you ever did.
Yeah, he was one of the ones I felt safe with in that early stage, yeah. And he will be hosting the 98th Academy Awards. So, Conan, come on down. Hey, it's my friend, Conan. Well, you came in like you got work to do. Yeah, I just had a lot of sugar this morning, so. I think you probably have a lot of sugar every morning. I mean, it's not like you, you know. You know, it's funny.
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Chapter 3: What advice does Conan have for young people struggling to find their way?
This was not something he said to a, you know, this was him looking at the arc of my life. And seeing that all of this nonsense that comes out of my head and the crazy energy, in another era, they would have treated me. You know, they would have put me in a special... Or admitted you. Admitted me, yes. That's the nicest thing you've said to me in a while. Put me in a facility of some kind.
But now we live in this weird... I mean, it's all when you're born. It's such luck. But in another era, my people in Ireland... you know, standing around and we're supposed to build a stone wall, I wouldn't have been helping with the stone wall. I'd have been off to the side doing bits and going, yeah, and then this guy and then that. And they'd be saying, this idiot doesn't do anything.
Are you unique in your family? Because you have a big family. Yeah, I'm one of six. I will say they're, my siblings are really nice. They're really smart. They're sweet. Do they do drugs? No, they do not. I think we all should, but no, they don't. It is, I see a lot of similarities with my siblings. We all have sort of the same stuff and it comes in different versions. They're very creative.
They're all really funny. And then I just happened to match this particular time in history with when we have television and podcasts and places where people like me can actually do this and put a roof over our head doing it, which I don't think existed before. You know, it took just in the last, you know, 100 years for this to come along. Well, you said they're all funny. Mm-hmm.
Where does that come from? Were your parents funny? Yeah. Was your kitchen table funny at dinner time? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything starts at the kitchen table. For us, it was Sunday dinners. My mom always insisted that we all eat together. We have a Sunday meal after church. We come back, we sit around this round table and we would have our meal.
And then people would jockey for who's the funny one at the table and who can really make... mom and dad laugh. And especially my dad, when he would laugh, repressed Irish Catholics. And you see this thing that every culture has, what's the key where they're allowed to lose their control a bit? My parents didn't drink. Obviously, there's no drugs. There's no, no one talked about sex. Mm-hmm.
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Chapter 4: How does Conan view aging and personal evolution?
So there are all these areas that are off limits, but you're allowed to be funny and laugh and you're allowed to eat tons of fried ham. And those are the areas where we're allowed to like let our hair down. And so my dad, when he would...
laugh my mom had a great laugh my dad would like hug himself and he would kind of clap himself and hug himself and rub his hands together and huge fan of you and the president and I brought him to an event I did once in Washington D.C. and he got his picture taken with you guys and the president was so nice he He said, yeah, yeah. Hey, Conan. Dad, dad, get over here.
And he made it all about my dad. Yeah. And my dad, for the next 15 years of his life, just had the picture with you guys. And your daughters were kids then, but they were in the picture too. And that was something I think... I think he lived another 10 years because of that. Talked about it nonstop. Oh, my gosh. So...
But so much of my career was, I think it all began with trying to make the parents laugh. Yeah. And that's where things start. And you can then later on, it can become, oh, I'm hosting the Oscars or I've got a late night show where I'm doing this big deal or that big deal. But it's really no different. You're still in some way trying to make them laugh. Yeah.
And I think just like the two of you, you're probably, for the rest of your life... going to be trying to live up to what your mom or your dad would want. And that stays with you. And I'm a big believer in, we lose these people, but we don't lose them. Oh, for sure. They're with you. Oh my gosh. And they're why you still, a lot of people would say, you two are good. You're good.
You can let your hair down now. But you are trying to still live up to that standard. And I think that's what I'm trying to do with my parents. Yeah. Hey, Mish, you remember we used to go on road trips and mom used to meticulously pack the trunk of car with plenty of food, like fried chicken. And it never tasted better than in the backseat of a car.
Man, coming out of the tinfoil, you know, it was really good. And it would pound cakes, cookies, the whole nine. And I remember it'd be a treat to even get flavored potato chips because, you know, mom would say, let's just get the plain ones. No barbecue, no salt and sour. Not a lot of extras in the Robinson household. No, no.
But now, you know, the difference is night and day when I travel with my family. What do you think? Yeah. I mean, you know, mom would have to pack for us staying in a place a long time. So it wasn't just snacks for the car because you couldn't just get anything you wanted. So she had to come on vacation with everything she needed for the week, which seemed like a hassle.
Yeah, it was like we had the whole trunk of the car was a grocery store. Now, are you particular about your snacks? For example, I like my cheddar cheese, but I want it cut on blade number one. Really? What about you? Yeah, I like mine thin. I like my cheese cut, sliced thin. I don't think I'm that particular. I think a snack is a snack.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does Conan face as a late-night talk show host?
And she went back to work. Wow, she went back to work after. So how old were you all? I would say she went back to work when I was about, I want to say nine. I was not happy about that because I loved coming home and my mom was there. But she went back to work. But she had stories of the early days. Early, you know, 1960s when...
She is a graduate of Yale Law School and she's working at a big firm and she would go to a meeting with other lawyers and then they would take a break to go to lunch. And they would all go into the dining room, but she couldn't go in because it's men only. And so I would ask her, did that make you angry? And she said, oh no, it was just the way it was.
And she said, they set up a card table for me. I sat outside and two of the lawyers were very nice and sat with me. And so there was this, I think it gets overlooked sometimes, but there's a thing that happens with people who are on the front line of change, sometimes you think they're going to be angry. Sometimes they're not because they think, I don't have time for this. That's right.
I've got to win. I got to get the win. So she worked hard. She became a partner. And I think she was maybe the second or third woman to ever be a partner in this big law firm.
Well, you make a good point that, and I want young people to understand this because sometimes when change has happened and the younger generation doesn't know what it takes, they can be a bit judgmental about what it took for those to, the kind of mentality, the kind of, because there's some young women who say, well, why didn't you speak up and why didn't you use your voice?
Or look at an older generation and say that, you know, You're allowing something to happen without understanding the context of the growth. Yes. And I think that's why sometimes we get in the way of change because the younger people think it should look different. They think the attitude should be different.
And your mom knew what she knew, being the first woman, the only woman to ever practice law. And then to make partner, you know, what kind of compromises your mom had to make to get there. And she needed the job too. She had six, how many of you all? I don't even know. I've tried to count my siblings and there's just two more, too many. I can't do it.
But the, yeah, it reminds me a little bit of that. There's that Jackie Robinson ethos where because he was the first, he felt he had to be completely above reproach. I know a little bit about that. Yeah.
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Chapter 6: How does Conan prepare for major events like the Oscars?
Well, that's what I'm saying is... I could tell when you and I took a trip once to visit a big giant military base in the Middle East. Which was an amazing trip. It was an amazing trip. I could tell... that you and your team were being so careful that everything is done by the book, that there's no, you know, that if, you know, there's no perks, there's no, I was really impressed with that.
And it occurred to me then, oh, I see, everyone feels we need to be so, so, so far beyond that. It wasn't even a feeling, it was the truth. It's the truth, yeah. I mean, there's absolutely no way that the behavior in this current administration would have been accepted by the first black family in the White House. Right, right.
So fortunately, it wasn't difficult to do because we are those people. It wasn't difficult to follow rules. It wasn't difficult to have high standards. It wasn't very difficult because in order to get where we are, as you've seen in your mother, right? You don't get here without being damn near perfect. We don't get to fail two, three, five, seven times.
We don't get to file bankruptcy over and over again and still be considered a successful business person. We don't get to not be at the top of the class. Every I has to be dotted. Every T has to be crossed. And your mom was among the first to begin to pioneer that firstness. Yeah. And I think because... The big game changer for Irish Catholics in my parents' generation was John F. Kennedy.
And you've got this very glamorous first family and they're Catholic and Irish. I think that made a huge difference for people in my parents' generation and made a big difference for me. because they made it cool. Yeah. They made it cool to be Irish. And then I made it uncool. Speaking of... What John Kennedy gave us, I took away. Were you a cool kid growing up? God, no.
Have you seen his pictures? You know what? Why would you ask that with a straight face? Here's why. Here's why. When I first met you, you were surprised how tall I was. Yep. As I of you. Yep. And the first thing I thought, I'm sure he was an athlete in high school and one of the cool kids and funny in the locker room, that kind of thing. So I want to get that. Tell me about that. What happened?
Let me explain what happened. Let me explain to you what happened, sir. I was... My height came late. So I was one of those guys who had a growth spurt kind of later in the game. So I recently saw... Someone found footage of me when I'm 22. I'm just out of college. And I think I look like a 14-year-old. Really? Yes, of undetermined gender. And I look at that person and I think, you're 22.
So you weren't, you didn't get your height then? No, no, I had my height by then, but I was 6'4".
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Chapter 7: What insights does Conan share about the importance of humor in difficult times?
When I moved out to LA to start my career, I was 6'4", I think 155 pounds. Now, I ask any engineer who's listening, do the math on that structure. It will collapse. It's going to break. It's going to go down. And if a moth lands on it, it will collapse. So there was no... You know, people sometimes say, because I make fun of myself a lot, and they say, well, that's kind of an act.
And I go, no, no, no, that comes from, I think, obviously, they know now, your core personality is formed fairly early on. And then you do little finishing touches to it. But by the time you're 15, 16, 17, it's there. And those were years for me where I didn't feel... I was not cool. I was not a good athlete. My brother, Luke, who's a year older than me, is much smarter than me.
My brother, Neil, was much stronger. And I just thought, I don't have anything to offer. I really thought that for a long time. And it took me a while. It took me a long time to put it all together, which is why... When I say I find myself kind of ridiculous, it comes from a place of honesty. Like that was my personality growing up.
Um, and so I did not, I was not, I was funny with my friends, but I was not the class clown. The class clown I maintain, you know, usually ends up in like a motel shootout, you know, the class clown, the guy who gets up and changes the clock forward and is, you know, throwing stuff out the window. They're in prison soon after high school. Yeah. I was not that guy.
I was joking around with my friends. And then when the teacher came in, I was really quiet and a nerd. So that's my story. But it got you to Harvard, which is where a lot of funny nerds go. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't even, you know, the irony is, as a kid, I dreamed about being in show business and I loved comedy. And that's how my dad and I really bonded.
You know, you're always trying to like... Yeah. I think a lot of boys look at their dad and think, how do I key into this person? How do I... He can be formidable. I'm not sure how I can really connect with this person. And then we would watch comedians together.
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Chapter 8: What is Conan's perspective on success and failure in the entertainment industry?
We would watch comedic movies. And I would see him laugh. And that was where my interest started. And I started doing things and loving the idea of getting to do comedy. And then I thought, I'm in Boston, Massachusetts, Brookline. Nobody within a thousand miles is in show business. I've never seen anyone in show business. That's not a real thing. I got to find another way.
So I decided I want to go to a good college and make something of myself. So I'll just become a grind. It's not a glamorous story, but I was a grind and I was grinding it out in my little room, memorizing things. And I, uh, What did you think you wanted to be? I thought, well, I'll be... What was the pursuit? I will be a serious person. I'll be an editor of a newspaper or I'll be an academic.
Were you an English... What was your major? I loved English. I was a history and literature major. And I thought, that's what I'll do. So I get to... I achieve that goal. I get into Harvard. Didn't think I was going to. I did. I think, now it's time to become the serious man of letters. And someone said... I'm going to go to this meeting of something called the Lampoon.
And I said, I've heard of that. That's pretty famous. Yeah. And I said, maybe I'll tag along. Was this first year? This was first semester freshman year. I was at Harvard for two maybe weeks. And so I went and there's this kooky little building there. And I sat on the floor and they come in and we're all sitting on the floor.
And they talked to us and they said, it's very competitive, but you all have to submit funny stuff and we'll see what happens. And I said, I'll give it a try. And made it through the first cut, made it past the second cut, made it through some other things. And then the next thing you know, I'm a first semester freshman and I'm on the lampoon. And that's... I was hooked.
Let me just explain to the listeners. I equate the lampoon to like the Harvard Law Review of comedy. Yeah. I mean, it is considered... It's very flattering. But it is. It was a huge deal and so many famous, funny people and great... John Updike had been on The Lampoon and Robert Benchley and the guys that created National Lampoon and did Animal House.
I mean, it all came... All this great stuff came out of The Lampoon. And it was unusual to be selected as a freshman. I think, yeah. It was a little bit unusual. And then I gave my whole life to it. It was one of those things where I felt like I had a calling. Yeah. Up until that point in my life, I thought anything...
that I achieved, and this is very Catholic, but I'm sure it's not just Catholic. It's tons of religions and cultures. I thought anything good has to come through suffering. Yeah. So I really suffered to do well on the test. I really suffered. I really suffered. I had a lot of anxiety. And then I would do well on the test because I suffered.
This was the first time in my life that I would say, hey, what about this? And people would say, that's great. Mm-hmm. And I'd say, really? That was easy. That was easy. I had fun. Wait a minute. I had fun. Yeah. Didn't take a lot of time. Yeah. And now people are reading it and laughing and I'm getting that same dopamine hit I get when I make my dad or my mom laugh. What's this all about?
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