Indo GAA
Cork’s redemption v Tipperary | Hogan & Bennett clash | Offaly’s underage structures paying off?
22 Apr 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: How did Cork's performance against Tipperary shape their season?
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If you ask Arsenal's defenders, Gabriel and Saliba, to play in that PSG team or that Bayern team, they would be exposed as much as those centre-backs were last night. Because effectively, the attackers were on top. Then you ask the question, how many defenders were actually on the pitch last night? Because none of the full-backs have no interest in defending. They're like wingers.
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Delighted to be joined by John and Pat once again.
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Chapter 3: What impact does the dissent rule have on refereeing in hurling?
And all our viewers and listeners will be glad to know that I'm putting the voice away for a couple of months now. It's on the back burner now. There'll be no singing this week. A lot of people giving out to me that it was crooning and there was crows flying around everywhere. So I'll put that.
The next time someone will be singing on this podcast, it'll be John Milan with a bit of luck after a big Waterford win. That all right with you, John? That's definitely OK with me. Absolutely. I was just saying to the two lads off air, I had lads coming up to me left, right and centre in Ennis and anywhere I've gone and said, oh, Milan has got it wrong about Cork and all this kind of crack.
Isn't it great, lads? That's the nature of predictions, Pat. People are going to be right. People are going to be wrong. But people take it to heart so much. I'm sure, listen, I would too. And if I was a player or manager, I'd probably use it as motivation as well.
Yeah, Jesus, I don't know. I think fans are using it as more motivation these days than people inciting the dressing rooms. Poor old Mull is not on the Twitter or the Facebook.
Chapter 4: How are Cork's underage structures influencing their current team?
Some of the Cork fans were out hard for him there the weekend saying that Mull Ryan wrote Cork off and this and that. I was saying, Jesus, only 12 months ago in January, Mull predicted him to win the league once for Andy All-Ireland and he got fair close, but he's a bit stung from that last year. I won't say he's anti-Cork now.
He's not anti-Cork, but they think you're up against him, Mull, this year.
Seamus Heaney had a famous poem, once bitten, twice shy. And I think my dick mother's twice shy now.
Well, hey, look, look, look, look. As Liam Sheedy said last Sunday, lads, it's only week one. There's no All-Irelands giving out in week one. And look, I'll be straight with you. Like... My love and fear with the Cork supporters, you know, it's... It's been 20 years. No, look, to be the banter to you.
And look, if Cork supporters, the genuine Cork supporters who know an awful lot about the game, probably were going to last week, probably with the same feeling of saying, Jesus, I don't know where this team are at. And look, I place my faith in this team... Numerous occasions. Oh, last year, I thought they'd go the whole way.
And look, maybe I jumped the gun, probably maybe a bit too soon after the league final. But I stand over it, lads. Last weekend was a massive, massive, massive game.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the hurling league final being rescheduled?
Psychologically and mentally. They can sugarcoat it all they like and say, you know, it wasn't. But it was. It was a massive psychological game for this card group. You know, in getting over the line and particularly in that second half, you know, when it was 16 points all, I was coming down to Carth, Menace, And I was saying, right, let's see what these Cork boys are made of now.
The game was in the balance, 44 minutes. I was only when I went home and I watched the match, watched it back. I was, you know, really impressed by what I saw. And it's a big hurdle. It's a big hurdle jump. It's a big hurdle jump for this Cork group. It's a big hurdle jump for Ben O'Connor. They're up and running now. I did say last week,
if they were to have gotten over the line last Sunday I think they'll take off and they'll be right in the mix and I stand over that now but I stand over my comments last week if they didn't get over the line last week lads psychologically I don't think they would have recovered they would have been going into this weekend against Limerick trying to pick themselves up off the ground and and
you know, Limerick would have been come with the bit between their teeth to try and deal Cork over. But now, the opposite now, the Cork train is up running again. Choo-choo! The feel good, the feel good factor is back.
Chapter 6: How do the Rabbitte father-son duo compare in hurling?
You know, the incredible support, the colors, they're going to be going into this, this Sunday's match against Limerick with playing with a bit more freedom. Now that kind of weight is, is that to be lifted off the, off, off their backs, but it can change that. You will know this, this is the beautiful thing about this cultural monster championship. It will change week to week.
And look, my predictions of, you know, Cork finishing fifth, you know, if Cork lost, look, it's very easy to finish first, as you can fifth in the Munster Championship. I mean, look at Tipperary. If Tipperary were to be turned over the weekend, they're all Ireland champions. That's every chance that they could finish fifth.
So, like, you know, even the Cork defence, I have to give great credit to Ben O'Connor. He... My prediction was that the current defence, that they will be opened up if he's stuck by the 6-6, if he still went with the same six defenders. But no.
It was a fair bit of surgery, Mull, without changing personnel, if that makes sense.
Well, look, he's had to freshen it up by bringing in three real kind of live wires in Barry Welch. As weeks go in Ireland, it was a great week for Cork Ireland. But it could have went the other way because it was a ballsy call, number one, to leave off Barry Welch from the under-20s. Now, I can only imagine what way the under-20 management team were probably fielded at the time.
And that game was in the balance last Wednesday night. Yeah.
down to Waterford if Waterford would have overturned Cork that night you know Cork possibly could have been gone out of the under 20 challenge because they would have been out of the round Waterford would have had them dead so you know and what you would have had is you would have had a peed off under 20 management but it worked out really really well Barry Welch came up delivered the goods was excellent Sunday
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Chapter 7: What changes might Kilkenny make to freshen up their squad?
Buckley started as well gave a man of the match performance and it was the manner in which Ben O'Connor you know, he went with the same six packs. He said, right, I'm going to give you, give you an opportunity to go and go and redeem yourselves from, from last September. I'm going to give you an opportunity to redeem yourselves from the league final.
But it was the manner in the way he structured his team. His defense got an awful lot of protection with his half-hour line dropping back, Barry Welch dropping back, Fitzgibbon dropping back. And, What's his name in the middle of the field? Tommy O'Connell. Tommy O'Connell, again, a newcomer. He dropped back.
The positional changes, he got the match-ups right, but Rob Downey's starting off on young... Stephen Tobin. Young Stephen Tobin in the full back line. Put Joyce on John McGrath. Put O'Leary out on... Armand. Put O'Leary out on Armand. So he went after Armand and he went after Jake Morris, their early doors. You know, curtailed their influence.
And then in the second half, you know yourself, Pat, from being a forward, yourself being a forward, if you're not...
Chapter 8: How did Offaly's recent underage success reflect in their senior team?
in the game, early doors, you're not getting on ball, you know, then you can kind of start saying, you're kind of saying, oh Jesus, you know, I'm not in the game, I'm not in the game. Then he was clever enough to move Rob Downie out to the half-back line, knowing that, right, Armand ain't up, ain't up being himself, ain't motoring the way he normally is.
Jake Morris ain't getting on, ain't getting on a world of ball. And,
they in that second half then they just thundered into the game and when the game was in the balance and the question was being asked and I was asking the question right let's see what you're made of now and from the 44th minute to the I think it was the 55th minute they outscored Tipperary 10 points to 1 but a big big one a big call in that game was you know Sean Stack it was 16 points each and I think it was an own down he came out and
And he won a free and the free could have went, I felt the free possibly should have went the other way in Tipperary's favour. The descent rule kicked in. I think the Tipperary players were getting on to Sean Stack. He brought up the free and gave Tim O'Mahony a relatively easier free. He put the ball over the bar.
The next one after that... Well, was that the one Jake Morris got a yellow card for, no? I think so. I thought that was so harsh.
Yeah, I think that was the one, but it could have went the other way. He was whistle happy. He was whistle happy. For me, it was 16 points each. The game was in the balance. If Tipperary got the free, they would have went 17-16 up. Then Craig Morrigan overcarried the ball. Barry Welch, you know, hunting him down, hunting him down, hunting him down. They got a score off of that.
And the big one for me was the, was the free on the sideline, Conley, where he was at the missing one or two before that and comes up with that big one. And that gave him the buffer three points to go, to go and to go and kick on. And yeah, look, they were full value for it. And look, it looks four points in the end.
it was a bit kind of Tipperary really you know Pat just on Cork and on Mould's point there while the backs are generally the same there is a bit of a feeling that this is a bit of a new Cork you know you had Barry Welch came in and I have to say something about Barry Welch Dads Barry Welch had a tough first 10 minutes He was at fault for two points in a row within the space of a minute.
I think he was blocked down and he was overturned. And you're thinking, a new fella coming in here, this is tough now. Everything's going to be a bit head up in his head. Then all of a sudden, he absolutely thundered into it. He was brilliant. Buckley was brilliant. Hugh O'Connor comes in. Alan Walsh comes in, gets a point. Great catch. Probably would have went for a goal if they needed a goal.
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