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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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This is an Irish Independent Podcast. Where do we start on Ciara McGee? Well, Portaferri for a start in County Down. Daughter to Catherine and Christopher, themselves boat neighbours from the village. This is a Portaferri family through and through. And it was a very happy childhood. She calls it idyllic. Three siblings, she's second eldest.
It was a childhood knitted around family, grandparents, community, sport and the outdoors. And then the road less travelled, running intervened. And despite a love of camogie, Ciara McGeehan was simply too gifted to ignore the track. And so she started training seriously at 14. And by the age of 16, Ciara McGeehan was world class for her age.
Gerry Kiernan would later say he was nervous about becoming her coach because she was simply that talented.
and her running life was never dull or straightforward now age 34 she is a european gold medalist in the 1500 meters which she won just two years ago but injury was never far away she had to box clever for most of her career on that front and at crucial times she was very very unlucky there were the tokyo games in 21 and a calf strain at just the wrong time she punched the wall
Then, more galling again, the Paris Games in 24, in the form of her life, a newly minted European champion, and then an Achilles injury intervened right at the end of a routine training session. In the fallout, her father turned to her and said, well, I presume that's it now. It's time to call it a day. And she said, absolutely not.
And so, as she steered towards 2025, the thoughts of one last bash at LA 2028 were taking shape. One last shot to right the wrongs of her Olympic career. But then, as it so often does, life took an unexpected turn.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Ciara Mageean face leading up to her cancer diagnosis?
Here is the great Ciara McGeehan. Ciara McGeehan, you're very welcome.
Thank you so much for having me, Andrew.
um never before has what matters been clear to me hug the people you love get the pet you want go on that holiday you dream about seize all your days one of the lines towards the end carpet yeah yeah definitely yeah i think whenever it came to to share my story in a book i obviously thought that it was going to be my athletic career and it would be
Talking about the highs and lows of that and the lessons I've learned through my running career, I never envisioned that it would be interspersed with something so probably life changing and crushing as a cancer diagnosis in the journey through that chemo. But whenever I was chatting to Cliona about it, I was like, I don't want this to be like a really sad book.
And don't get me wrong, I think I've made people cry and I do apologise, this is not my aim. It's been a huge failure. It's just the nature of the beast of the diagnosis and what I'm going through. But I wanted the overall message to be one of hope. And I really hope that shines through, that even in the face of what I'm going through, I'm finding things to be happy about.
And listen, there's people in situations far worse than me that I observe and they're still finding hope and happiness every day. Whenever I look around at what's happening in the world, South Sudan and Gaza and you see things and you're like, those people are still finding a way to make their children smile. They're still finding something to laugh about and I see it as an act of defiance.
I see it as like, I'm not going to let cancer win. And that's what I hope that everybody else can take away from that, that no matter what struggle you're going through, you can have happiness and you should find that happiness.
And interestingly, somebody did talk to me and say, it's really hard because whenever you're going through something so tough, you nearly feel guilty for finding joy in other things because you should just feel sad about that one thing.
like two things can be true you can be really deeply sad about a situation and you can also go and find something to laugh and smile about yeah because we last um spoke in here just after the paris games yeah and i would say you burst in the door today in just far lighter lighter it's not a word i thought i used lighter happier bubbly form chatting away i didn't know what to expect obviously when you know you came in i didn't know where you'd be from a headspace point of view but um
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Chapter 3: How did Ciara cope with her stage four cancer diagnosis?
Where did you Google that? Do you remember?
Google.
Well, if you're going to play smart, we're not doing this.
I just Googled it and it popped up.
I mean, was it at 4 a.m. on your own?
Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to be cheeky. It was great to see you. Get out. Oh, when was it?
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Chapter 4: What themes are explored in Ciara's book, My Greatest Race?
I'll be honest.
It's just I'm wondering, was that like, can you almost remember that moment as like, there's probably a lot of those moments, to be fair.
I can remember that I was sitting in my bedroom, me and Tommy's bedroom, on the bed that looks out to the window. And behind our house is like some trees. And there was a Bible college or theological college in behind. It's going to be an old people's home. So, you know. two rowdy bunches that were living behind us but so I was kind of looking out at that and like
I can remember the moments because it was May, it was June and the weather's nice and like the sun shining through the trees.
So incongruous with where you are.
That juxtaposition of like just looking out on the breeze blowing through some leaves, like gently swaying and me googling that and being like, oh God, that's not good. And then kind of thinking like, I don't want to tell anyone. Not as if Thomas hadn't also thought to pursue Google for this information. And like, yeah, that was that was hard.
And then like in the same moment, my head switches like, why can't I be that 10 to 15 percent? I am fit. I am healthy. I'm maybe not. And I studied physiotherapy. I used to read in research papers and. And so my head immediately went like, is this based on an older population? You know, historically, people with this type of cancer are a bit older. They might have comorbidities.
I'm like, they're logically going through my head, which I continuously do throughout this journey. I feel like I'm a very pragmatic person.
And there's a logic in that. I mean, you should be a good candidate for the 10%. In the same way you were an unbelievably bad candidate to have been struck down by this because... You just have no risk factors. You say yourself, you know, family history, lifestyle, pretty good age. You know, again, you're much younger. They said a freak gene mutation is what they put it down to.
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Chapter 5: How did Ciara's athletic career influence her perspective on life?
And you never will. And so, and in the same, like, I've seemed to, like, just logically, like, jump between things that I'm like, okay. And I was like, well, like, this happens. And I was like, well, why not me? And not in the sense of like, oh, sure, why not me? I was like, why wouldn't it happen to me? It happens to so many people.
And I know I had none of the risk factors, but, like, whenever I was in primary school, we lost two of our classmates. Yeah. to one young lad who had leukemia and James had heart condition. Joe, when you're a kid, you don't really overly know the ins and outs, but his family must forever wonder why their little child had to go.
And I know if people recently have died on road traffic accidents and their families are like, why? You know, five minutes of a difference could have been a different story for them. So As much as I try to do that to grind myself and bring myself back to the reality of it and not get lost in the whys and the what ifs because it won't change it. And I did have some...
some appointments with Steve Peters, who's a well-renowned, I won't say sports psychologist, because Steve is like a psychiatrist and everything else. I would do him a disservice by trying to name his title. After Paris, I went and had two chats with him. I went to his house, he very kindly let me go to his house and we had a good sit down and talked through things.
And obviously I was talking to him about the grief of the season before, pulling out of the Olympics, breakdown of a coaching relationship, leaving a team and how all that left me feeling.
And at that point, he was just, he was like, he has a principle, there's a book called The Chimp Paradox and people who don't know it, it's like kind of saying you have a chimp in your brain who tries to override an awful lot of the other things. So he was like, your chimp thinks everything should be fair. And it's something I identify in myself. I think the world should be fair. I think that,
Millionaires should be taxed more. I think that there shouldn't be wars and it shouldn't be decided by some orange man in another country. Dropping bombs on innocent people. I look at these things and I get really upset because I'm like, that's not fair. And then I look at Olympics and me not having an Olympics that I walked away from and was delighted with. That's not fair.
I thought I deserved it. I deserved at least, you know, to go out and be happy with it or at least to get to the line in Paris. And And as simple as his message was, the world isn't fair.
That's interesting. You've been walking around with this wrong core belief.
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Chapter 6: What role did support from family and friends play in Ciara's journey?
It's just not fair. And it's kind of blunt. Well, yeah, world's not fair. You have stage four cancer. Oh, well, world's not fair. But sometimes I think that bluntness helps me. And like me and Tommy have terrible sense of humor. I think it's really hard for people who don't know us very well because sometimes we throw out something really, really dark. And people are like, Jesus, Ciara.
And I'm like, shit, they haven't. Sorry. It's like they haven't been around me on this process long enough just yet for me to throw out a little bit of that. But me and Tommy find our ways to cope.
Well, I mean, it's a beautiful book. You can tell there's a great intimacy with you and Cliona. There are great snapshots where it is overwhelming.
Don't you be getting upset at me, Nigel!
When you have to tell your family that whole thing. And I can't even verbalize it. People just read it.
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Chapter 7: How has Ciara's outlook on happiness changed during her treatment?
But like it was it was something about your dad walking out the back garden. I can't imagine, you know, like that's where the whole thing must be just so overwhelming. Just the family that that part is too much, I think. Yeah.
And do you know what? It's still a part that makes me emotional because I can cope with the me. And the toughest thing for me was telling the people closest to me. Was driving to Porto Ferreira that day, me and Tommy in the car.
Tommy had road rage.
Oh, yeah.
With that, I mean, I'm not a psychologist.
God loves him for that.
But maybe he had some things going on that day, you know.
For anybody, like, we had left. I live in Dunmurray in Belfast, very close to the Mary Peters track. And we were driving up towards the House of Sport roundabout. And there's me using...
locations that people might not know but anyway there's a big roundabout and um like me and tommy knew that we were driving to porto ferre my mommy had went over to to the chelsea flower show with my little brother she had said i don't want to go i won't go and i'm like why aren't you gonna go you're just gonna be sitting at home feeling miserable like go and see brandon give him a big hug he's got this news too enjoy the chelsea flower show sure like you're not even it like what you're gonna do stare at me like it's not like i'm like go we all have to continue living our lives
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Chapter 8: What insights does Ciara share about managing expectations in sports and life?
And he's like, just pees me off. I was like, I know that this is illogical. And Thomas is only breathing in the bed next to me. But like, I'm ready to smother him with a pillow. God love the poor boy. And he didn't know what he was doing wrong. So I messaged the girls.
I was like I'm just finding it really hard and I'm finding it really hard to even get up and do the things I want to do I'm just sitting on the bed staring out the window when I know I have some washing to do and I want to bring the dog for a walk and you know things that I'm looking forward to just were felt like a burden so the girls rallied around me one of my friends Claire had got me a little gift which was like I was waiting for you to finish your chemo but I'm sending it now and I'm wearing them today they're little earrings they're actually little hurley balls little slitters so yeah
I think I think that's something maybe a lesson for everybody out there that we think we have to protect the people around us from the bad news. But actually, our most loved people want to help us and they'll shoulder that burden with us. And we're robbing them of the ability to be that for us if we don't open up and share a little.
It's good advice to someone out there maybe who needs it. You mentioned the chemo. I think you've done 18 rounds, initially a burst of 12 and then a subsequent six this year. Like, it's funny, you kind of talk about how almost with the mild curiosity, you're watching this poison drip into your body that you've worked so hard to kind of sculpt into an Olympian body. standard for so long.
Like it does seem like it's every bit as brutal as people say. I think by round seven, they had to lower the dosage because a lot of people just can't do the 12 rounds full whack. You know, it certainly seemed like November into December. You're just, like, wiped. You're just sitting with Tommy saying, when does this end? I can't just take the nausea, the vomiting, the feeling terrible.
Like, it seems horrendous. Every bit is advertised.
It is. It is. And I won't lie, the first three rounds, I was like, oh, it's everybody talking about it. It's fine. Like, I was still going out for runs. I was, like, actively on chemo and going for walks. So, like, my...
Did you think this is my Olympian super strength?
I just thought it was really tough.
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