Industry Relations

The Game of Chicken: MLS Style

06 May 2026

Contributed by Lukas

The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg previews his ICE keynote, "What If We're Wrong?", chall...

Acquisitions, Alliances & the Aftershocks

29 Apr 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg break down the major industry-shaking news of t...

MLS Mega Merger and Boomers vs. First Time Home Buyers

22 Apr 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg discuss a major MLS merger in South Florida, cr...

IDX: The Original Sin?

15 Apr 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg break down NAR's latest settlement move, Zillow...

Cooperation: It's Hard To Tell the Poison From the Cure

08 Apr 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg discuss Northwest MLS countersuing Compass and ...

Previews, Portals, and the Shift in Listing Control

01 Apr 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg revisit the fallout from their conversation wit...

Begun the pre-marketing wars have

25 Mar 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview This episode features Andy Woolley (Homes.com) joining Rob a...

Hanna List, Compass, and the Consolidation Question

18 Mar 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg discuss the implications of Howard Hanna's "Han...

Inside the NAR Influencer Summit

11 Mar 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson discuss their experience attendi...

Compass, Redfin and an Uncertain Future

04 Mar 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg discuss the implications of a new deal between ...

MLS Independence, AI and talking to portals.

25 Feb 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg discuss MLS autonomy and whether smaller organi...

Can the MLS Keep Up with AI?

18 Feb 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg recap MLS Reset, discussing key themes that eme...

Zillow's win sends Compass spinning

12 Feb 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg go live to break down major news shaking real e...

Jack Miller on Lists, Trends, Marketplaces and CoStar.

28 Jan 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg are joined by Jack Miller (President & CEO of T...

Can You Regulate "Public Marketing"?

21 Jan 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg open the episode by honoring Glenn Kelman's ret...

Compass Closes, CoStar Cuts, TAN Stirs the Pot.

14 Jan 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg dive into a packed week in real estate: the Com...

What if the MLS Becomes Optional?

07 Jan 2026

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the implications of ...

Forecast 2026: Mortgage Rates, MLS Wars, and Industry Consolidations

31 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson close out the year with their an...

2024 in the Rearview: Who Got It Right?

24 Dec 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson close out the year by revisiting...

Who Runs Bartertown?

17 Dec 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson dig into the escalating conflict...

How Much Transparency Is Too Much?

10 Dec 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the recurring issue ...

From 'Raise the Bar' to 'Lower the Stakes': Real Estate's Consistency Problem

03 Dec 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg break down the newest developments in NAR gover...

Compass and Zillow Play Chicken

26 Nov 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the newly surfaced Z...

MLS Emancipation?

19 Nov 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg break down what happened at NAR NXT in Houston ...

NAR NXT Grab Bag

13 Nov 2025

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The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg dig into expectations for the NAR Annual Conference, ...

Mutual customer?

05 Nov 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg discuss Zillow's recent privacy policy changes ...

Organized Real Estate's GTM problem

29 Oct 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg dive into Sean Frank's Inman article, "NAR and ...

When Fine Print Hits the Fan

22 Oct 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surr...

ZGPT

15 Oct 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg dive into the recent OpenAI Developers Confere...

How will the portals respond to the Compass-Anywhere deal?

08 Oct 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! This special crossover episode brings together James and Keith from R...

Toronto tales and more

01 Oct 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player!  Overview Rob and Greg return to break down CMLS 2025 in Toronto, of...

Compass Everyware

24 Sep 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Rob and Greg dive into the major industry shake-up: Compass acquiring...

The Mirror

17 Sep 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent assassination of Cha...

Housing remedies and Compass musings

10 Sep 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Rob and Greg tackle the pressing issue of housing affordability, reac...

Give Me Some Knobs!

03 Sep 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the balance between technolog...

Back to the future with Sub Agency?

27 Aug 2025

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  The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Rob and Greg dive into the latest developments in the real estate ...

An Open Letter to Opendoor

21 Aug 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Rob and Greg dive into the shakeup at Opendoor after CEO Carrie Wheel...

AI Octagon

13 Aug 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Rob and Greg welcome Coleton Boyer from OnTuesday.com for a spirited ...

OK Boomer.

06 Aug 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! In this episode, Rob and Greg recap Inman Connect San Diego, discuss ...

Plans, within plans, within plans

31 Jul 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into Zillow's legal strategy in it...

Lawsuits, Listings & Listings Fees

23 Jul 2025

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  The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! In this episode, Rob and Greg cover recent legal decisions, MLS po...

Vibe Buying

16 Jul 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle the thorn...

Monopoly Schmonopoly

02 Jul 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg unpack t...

Tori Amos?

25 Jun 2025

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview In this special episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg ...

The thing about incentives

18 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg reflect on a recent panel discussion hosted by the Orange County Association of REALTORS®. They d...

NAR Midyear Recap and then some...

11 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg recap the 2025 NAR Midyear Meetings in Washington, D.C., discussing key industry developments, MLS...

Buyer's Market Fever Dream

04 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg run a thought experiment: What if we're entering a true buyer's market? They walk through ten majo...

Cui bono?

28 May 2025

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In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg analyze Zillow's recently released ZLAS policy language and debate whether it reflects a shift in ...

Full Circle

21 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the idea of the elusive "end-to-end platform" in real estate. Prompted by Lower's acquisit...

Be Careful What You Wish For

14 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg examine CoStar's recent announcement that Homes.com will boost listings banned on Zillow. They dis...

Back to books

07 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the broader cultural trend of returning to physical, human-centered experiences amid rapid...

I don't think that word means what you think it means...

01 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the evolving definition of an "open market" in real estate. They discuss how consumer expe...

You down with CCP?

23 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg examine how changes to MLS rules, especially around delayed marketing and the Clear Cooperation Po...

Who's Your Daddy?

16 Apr 2025

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In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg react to Zillow's announcement that listings violating the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) will no ...

Does Size Matter?

09 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg analyze the latest developments in the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) and its impact on brokerages...

Clear as mud

02 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the big news about the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) and what its potential changes co...

Has the fat lady sung on CCP?

26 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

**This podcast was recorded the Friday BEFORE the announcement from NAR on CCP** In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dissect the late...

Organized Real Estate's Head Spinning Week

19 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down three major real estate bombshells—the rumored Compass acquisition of Berkshire Hatha...

More questions than answers

13 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle three major industry shake-ups: Gary Keller selling a stake in Keller Williams, REX losing...

The Duel over Dual Agency

05 Mar 2025

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In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding dual agency, private networks, and the MLS's role in protec...

Let Freedom Ring!

26 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the latest in the ongoing battle over NAR's three-way agreement and how Phoenix Realtor...

Live from the Virtual MLS Summit its Rob and Greg!

19 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Overview In this special live episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg broadcast from the Virtual MLS Summit, where they tackle one of the biggest ...

What to do about Zombies

12 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into one of the most heated debates yet—was NAR's fight for survival a necessary battle, or...

MLS Reset Recap

05 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg recap Greg's recent MLS Reset conference and dive into key industry insights. They discuss governa...

It ain't over yet

15 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg navigate the fallout from key legal decisions and the broader implications for the real estate ind...

I Can't Make You Love Me

08 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this thought-provoking episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the seismic changes shaking up the real estate world as Phoenix Realtors...

Rob and Greg look ahead to 2025

01 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this final episode of the year, Rob and Greg deliver their predictions for 2025, exploring how the real estate industry will evolve. They tackle ev...

2024 ORE Year End Recap

25 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In this Industry Relations episode, Rob and Greg reflect on the pivotal events of 2024, dubbing it "The Year of the Settlement." They analyze the sei...

Choking on NAR's Kielbasa

18 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle the latest controversies surrounding NAR  and the recent investigative article from The Ne...

Supply, Demand and Deregulation with Professor Bryan Caplan

11 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Overview In this special episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg welcome economist and author Professor Bryan Caplan to discuss his latest book, B...

Understanding both sides of the housing market

04 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Episode Summary: In this episode, Rob and Greg tackle the latest developments in the housing market and its broader implications for real estate profe...

What the DOJ's recent Statement of Interest really means for real estate

27 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Episode Summary: In this timely episode In this timely episode (recorded Monday, November 25), Rob and Greg dive deep into the DOJ's recent statement...

The knowns and unknowns of NAR leadership decisions

20 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the latest developments in the real estate world, focusing on leadership, membership dy...

And they all fall down...

13 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

  Greg just landed back home from NAR Boston and Rob is curious to what insights he learned.  Greg's main insight is that he isn't as young as he o...

Industry Relations Podcast: The Worst of All Possible Worlds?

06 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Episode Overview Rob and Greg explore how the upcoming election could reshape the real estate industry, focusing on regulatory impacts, DOJ actions, a...

Endless Opportunities with Jack Miller of T360

30 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Overview: Rob and Greg talk with Jack Miller, CEO of T360, about the recently released "Opportunity Report" and its significance for the real estate i...

Canned Spam

23 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In the latest episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg venture into a thought-provoking discussion about disaster preparedness and self-reliance. W...

The Industry Needs To Stop Fronting

17 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

It seems everyone in the industry is still obsessed with CCP.  Rob and Greg are no different.  The show starts off with Rob giving Greg some advice ...

Whadup with dat PDAP?

09 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Many people don't know or understand NAR's PDAP.  PDAP stands for Participant Data Access Policy.  And PDAP is at the heart of today's episode. Rob ...

Tales from the Road

02 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

After missing a recording last week (due to travel schedules) the boys are back with another jammed pack episode of Industry Relations.  In this week...

CCP Musings

20 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On this episode of Industry Relations Rob and Greg discuss, for what seems to be the 17th time, the current rumors about the Clear Cooperation Policy....

Reading the tea leaves too early and what may be coming next

11 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Rob and Greg are back to their regularly scheduled broadcast!  The episode includes discussion on Landian, the new "a la carte" brokerage launched b...

Industry Relations Podcast: iOi, NAR's new CEO, the CCP and other letters of the alphabet

05 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Greg joins Rob from Chicago where he was attending NAR's iOi Summit.  Greg gives his experience of being at the iOi Summit and discusses the pitch ba...

Industry Podcast Mash-Up

28 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Rob and Greg teamed up with James Dwiggins and Keith Robinson from the Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered podcast during the recent Inman Connect Las Veg...

Ethics and Transparency in Communication

21 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Are you up to date on the recent changes in MLS rules and buyer agency agreements? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding...

Forgery & HOA Karens

31 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Are you a real estate broker or agent grappling with the NAR settlement's requirement for written buyer agreements before showings? Rob and Greg dive ...

Meltdown: Is the End Near?

24 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The August 17th deadline is almost here, and the industry is abuzz with talk of potential changes to MLSs and associations. Rob and Greg discuss the l...

Industry Soup: Why the Human Touch Still Matters

17 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

What happens when industry news is quiet? Industry soup. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss various topics with an effort to draw parallels to real...

Real Estate Forms: Consumer-Friendly or Industry-Driven?

10 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Are real estate forms truly consumer-friendly or are they just industry-driven? In this episode, Doug Miller and Wendy Gilch, Directors of CAARE (Cons...

The REcolorado Acquisition: A Red Pill Moment for Brokers

03 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The recent acquisition of REcolorado by private equity firm GI Partners has sent shockwaves through the real estate industry. In this episode, Rob and...

Ethical Considerations: MLS's Role in Regulating Concessions

26 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Are you confused about the new MLS policy on commission disclosures and concessions? In this thought-provoking discussion, Rob and Greg dive into the ...

The Disconnect in Interpretation

19 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Are you struggling to understand the NAR settlement agreement and its implications for real estate transactions? Joining us in this thought-provoking ...

The Vagueness of the Language and its Implications

12 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

You may have heard the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement, but do you really understand the implications for off...

Bravery and Impact of the MLS Stance

05 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Have you been keeping up with the latest updates in MLS policies? Rob and Greg break down the key details of Bright MLS's clear cooperation policy and...

The Potential Implications of Dropping CCP

30 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Are the rumors true? Is Bright MLS really going to drop the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP)? Rob and Greg explore the potential implications of this de...

Portal Wars and Raising the Bar at NAR

22 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Who is winning the portal wars? In this episode Rob and Greg talk about the future of the MLS and debate which company they would bet their life savin...

Walking the Line - Words Matter

15 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

What is the difference between the threat of steering in an illegitimate way and being transparent and informing your client? In this episode, Rob and...

Zillow's Touring Agreement and Consumer Experience Simping

08 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

  With buyer agreements having to take place before a showing and Zillow's new touring agreement what will the end consumer experience be? In this ep...

The $250M Settlement That will Impact the Industry

01 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

HomeServices of America has reached a settlement in the slew of commission lawsuits. Now that a huge domino has fallen, what will happen next in the i...

CoStar Acquires Matterport: The Photography Wars

24 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

How will CoStar's recent buyout of Matterport affect the industry? In this episode Rob and Greg dive into the recent acquisition of Matterport by CoSt...